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Subject: Akay versus Yamaha A x000 line of samplers


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Original Message 1/18             31-Oct-99  @  11:27 PM   -   Akay versus Yamaha A x000 line of samplers

jav123

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The already out for a long time seems better by specs that pre S 5000/6000 akays, even it seems that it has more personality that theses lasts, now yamaha has announced (unoficially) a 4000 and A 5000 ( no specs thought).

But l would like to know from you, akay fans a defense of your samplers, also a curiosity, S 5000/6000 are announced to have many kind of filters, fine, but how many simultaneous ones can you have in a sample/program?.



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Message 2/18             01-Nov-99  @  08:52 AM   -   RE: Akay versus Yamaha A x000 line of samplers

nobody

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please spell akai akai, not akay, ok? every keygroup can have its own filter with an s5/s6..so that's a bunch



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Message 3/18             02-Nov-99  @  04:02 PM   -   RE: Akay versus Yamaha A x000 line of samplers

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Dont mean 2 sound rude Nobody but the point of language is 2 communicate and he`s doing that jus` fine.



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Message 4/18             02-Nov-99  @  07:29 PM   -   RE: Akay versus Yamaha A x000 line of samplers

bill gates

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dont buy the a3000. wait to see the new yamahas if you can, if not then check out both the akai and the new emu's



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Message 5/18             15-Nov-99  @  05:43 PM   -   AKAI vs Yamaha

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I heard the a3000 v 2 was a pretty damnm fine machine... fx and stuff included... Most people I headr that own one of those claim it sound way better then any Akai. The thing is that Akais are still more or less industry standard and have HUGE sample libraries available, it also seems a bit of a statement to have one of those in yer studio. Makes you look more pro or something..hell iŽm ramlbing arenŽt i? Personally I think IŽll be buying the yammy pretty soon (as my first step AWAY from computerbased sampling...) just need my paycheck to come in ....

LAter

Bastiaan



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Message 6/18             17-Nov-99  @  05:38 PM   -   RE: Akay versus Yamaha A x000 line of samplers

pelle

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If you use a 61 key, controller/synth than you have a filter for each key and also zones.
As far as Yamaha, they are still learning from AKAI and EMU.
AS far as bugs in AKAI S5000, I haven't found a new bug yet with the latest OS 1.30.



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Message 7/18             19-Nov-99  @  09:01 PM   -   RE: Akay versus Yamaha A x000 line of samplers

me

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I havn't got a Yamaha yet, but the fx/ dsp functions shit all over Akai/ Emu's.
I've got an emu ultra and thinking of getting the new Yam when it comes out.
Personally, i think Emu/ Akai are fine for all types of music especially Orchestra, film etc... But the Yams are great for cutting edge music.
When i sample, i want to manipulate, not just to playback and filter. That's what makes the yams so appealing to me.



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Message 8/18             02-Dec-99  @  02:24 PM   -   RE: Akay versus Yamaha A x000 line of samplers

wayneb

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have a look at
www.a3kcentral.com

lots of specs....



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Message 9/18             05-Dec-99  @  06:21 PM   -   RE: Akay versus Yamaha A x000 line of samplers

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I've owned an akai s2000 and I currently own an a3000, the a3k's better by far.. I miss not being able to change sounds for a channel on the fly like the akai's can though.. but on the other hand, 6 midi controlers for each sample to use one the filter and the fx units, 3 good workhorse fx units which can have any fx assigned to them independantly or in different configurations, and it's a doddle to assign a controler, you just press the button for the control number then turn the knob on your synth and it's set... fuckin great I tells ya. the machines an inspiration to me every time I switch it on. I aint used anything else in my sudio for about a year now (apart from sampling them).



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Message 10/18             06-Dec-99  @  04:05 PM   -   RE: Akay versus Yamaha A x000 line of samplers

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Aye, now that I`ve seen the specs for the nu Yam`s; I`m definately looking 2 sell my Ultra. The Ultras a wicked sampler (as r the Akai range) but it cant fuk around with sound the way the Yammys can. That said, I`ve also applied 4 finance 2 get an MPC2000xl cos I`m sick of fucking computer sequencing..............I think the phrase is "gear whore"



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Message 11/18             13-Dec-99  @  12:00 AM   -   RE: Akay versus Yamaha A x000 line of samplers

V

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sorry to interupt. i want an Akai 5k just cus it will read .wav off any hard drive, can yours do that?

V



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Message 12/18             13-Dec-99  @  09:48 AM   -   RE: Akay versus Yamaha A x000 line of samplers

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I sold my A3000 cause I find it rather slow to use. I want to compose not to spend hours to get to different instruments with different MIDI-channels into the A3K. The SCSI load times are awfully slow in A3K but it can read .wav files if they are loaded from floppy disk. This however takes a lifetime...
I haven't ever tried Akai samplers but I think that the new Emu E5000 Ultra looks quite appealling



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Message 13/18             13-Dec-99  @  11:53 AM   -   RE: Akay versus Yamaha A x000 line of samplers

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he he he. I`ve decided against the Yammy now anyway cos the Emus power is immense. I tested out the S5000 and the 6400 Ultra when I was looking 4 a sampler, and I gotta say, the Emu was miles ahead. Much more powerfull synthesis, warmer sound, better expandability etc. Just my opinion mind, but I felt the nu Akais were a rather cynical ploy on Akais behalf 2 try and stay on top of the game. I mean, they`ve only just managed 2 get up 2 where the E64 was years ago.



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Message 14/18             13-Dec-99  @  05:17 PM   -   RE: Akay versus Yamaha A x000 line of samplers

k

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imho E-mu samplers RULE sonically - although i do like that hard akai sound too - but when it comes to synthesis - no competition - e-mu everytime since the year dot -



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Message 15/18             14-Dec-99  @  05:27 PM   -   RE: Akay versus Yamaha A x000 line of samplers

dru

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dont know if this is a factor to anyone but me yammie 6 outs akai s5000 16 i think



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Message 16/18             15-Dec-99  @  05:44 PM   -   RE: Akay versus Yamaha A x000 line of samplers

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whatever yuu buy is bound to be blasted out of the water in a years time anyway so why wait? get what you can now and start using it.

I wouldn't mind hearing the emu's sound, I never liked the akai sonically but I found the a3k really easy to work with when mixing.

so what sort of stuff can you do with the emu synthesis wise?



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Message 17/18             15-Dec-99  @  07:32 PM   -   RE: Akay versus Yamaha A x000 line of samplers

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First of all what does "imho" mean??
As for the synth engine in EMU, well you can use anything to control anything. You get all different Modules like DC, Sum Amp, Quantizer don't even know what half of them do. Best thing to do is to go to EMU's home page and d'load the manual



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Message 18/18             17-Dec-99  @  04:41 PM   -   RE: Akay versus Yamaha A x000 line of samplers

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Yeah, its setup like a modular synth - u can route any parameter 2 another, multiple sources 2 the same destinations, as well. Allsorts of crazy shit is possible that a hapless dabbler like myself can`t possibly explain well enuff 2 do it justice.




































How does it sound? Very musical 2 my ears, I still say Akais have the edge as far as beats r concerned but, 4 all round ability, the e-mu wins handsdown. I definately think e-mu have managed 2 grasp the fact that the sampler is a musical instrument much more than Akai have.



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