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Forums - Samplers & sampling
Subject: Fz-1 VS. Sci Prophet3000
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Original Message 1/3 16-Aug-99 @ 11:06 PM - Fz-1 VS. Sci Prophet3000
Alright, I am selling my akai s-2000 so that I may buy a sampler that doesn't sound like a piece of cardboard. I would like something that has character, something that makes interesting sounds, but can also replace my s-2000 as a main sampler (polyphony and memory).
I can get enough money from selling the piece to buy either an Fz-1 or a prophet-3000 (which one of my friends is willing to cut me a deal with). My main concern is that I have an emax, so that all of the synthesis functions on the Fz-1 are redundant to those on the Emax. On the other hand I've heard much talk about the pro-3000 being one of the best sounding samplers concieved but lacks any synthesis options. I believe both have 8 note poly (not as much as I need, but I can survive), and both are expandable up to 4 megs ram. Both have 8 outputs.
so....
Does the Fz-1 sound just like an Emax with digital filters and more memory?
>Would it be redundant to have the Fz-1 with the emax?
Is the sequencer useable? (Does it have a step sequence mode)
Would YOU choose an Fz-1 or a Sci Pro-3000???
Thank you
Robin
I can get enough money from selling the piece to buy either an Fz-1 or a prophet-3000 (which one of my friends is willing to cut me a deal with). My main concern is that I have an emax, so that all of the synthesis functions on the Fz-1 are redundant to those on the Emax. On the other hand I've heard much talk about the pro-3000 being one of the best sounding samplers concieved but lacks any synthesis options. I believe both have 8 note poly (not as much as I need, but I can survive), and both are expandable up to 4 megs ram. Both have 8 outputs.
so....
Does the Fz-1 sound just like an Emax with digital filters and more memory?
>Would it be redundant to have the Fz-1 with the emax?
Is the sequencer useable? (Does it have a step sequence mode)
Would YOU choose an Fz-1 or a Sci Pro-3000???
Thank you
Robin
Message 2/3 19-Aug-99 @ 11:18 PM - RE: Fz-1 VS. Sci Prophet3000
I read you post about whether to get an FZ-1 or Prophet. I have no experience with the later, but I've owned the Casio Fz-1 for about 8 years now. First off, it does not have a sequencer. For me that's no big deal. It can only be upgraded to 2 megs RAM. There is a High density floppy drive but no SCSI port. It also has 8 outputs and one mixed output as well as headphone jack and a few other jacks I never use 
When I originally bought the casio it was a tossup between the Emax 1 and the Casio. I was drawn to the FZ because of it's price(at the time was much cheaper) and I thought the sound quality was a bit better(16 vs 12 bit?). It samples at 3 levels (9,18,or 36 MHz)
The casio is a cool machine. I guess it's sound is kind of unique. It has this cold raw sound to it, hard to explain but when you hear a sample in a song you can usually tell it's from a fz-1. I don't know how different it sounds from the emax though. When I tested both out I didn't notice a huge difference. The casio sounds grittier on lower notes, but screams on higher notes. The Emax seemed to have a balanced sound to it. Maybe it was just the sounds I tested it with I don't know. It's the only sampler I've owned. The filters are nice, I never used them much but a nice addition either way. And I wasn't aware the Emax has a synth feature. I liked that feature on the FZ-1, You can create lots of synth lines and it takes literally no memory to save on disk. I used filters on these. Not perfect but fun to mess with.
I've decided to sell FZ-1 because I upgraded to a new sampler. I feel like I need to expand a little after all these years.
So I hope this helps at all.
-fox
When I originally bought the casio it was a tossup between the Emax 1 and the Casio. I was drawn to the FZ because of it's price(at the time was much cheaper) and I thought the sound quality was a bit better(16 vs 12 bit?). It samples at 3 levels (9,18,or 36 MHz) The casio is a cool machine. I guess it's sound is kind of unique. It has this cold raw sound to it, hard to explain but when you hear a sample in a song you can usually tell it's from a fz-1. I don't know how different it sounds from the emax though. When I tested both out I didn't notice a huge difference. The casio sounds grittier on lower notes, but screams on higher notes. The Emax seemed to have a balanced sound to it. Maybe it was just the sounds I tested it with I don't know. It's the only sampler I've owned. The filters are nice, I never used them much but a nice addition either way. And I wasn't aware the Emax has a synth feature. I liked that feature on the FZ-1, You can create lots of synth lines and it takes literally no memory to save on disk. I used filters on these. Not perfect but fun to mess with.
I've decided to sell FZ-1 because I upgraded to a new sampler. I feel like I need to expand a little after all these years.
So I hope this helps at all.
-fox
Message 3/3 07-Sep-99 @ 03:52 PM - RE: Fz-1 VS. Sci Prophet3000
Correction: There is actually a way to upgrade the FZ-1 to 4mb, but that includes lots of soldering and you have to purchase some rare and expensive (?) memorycircuits.
Does anyone have a 2mb expansion for sale, btw?
Does anyone have a 2mb expansion for sale, btw?
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