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Subject: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
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Original Message 1/27 25-Oct-00 @ 04:20 PM - Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
i'd been eyeing a mackie 1604 vlz pro as my next logical upgrade. the sound quality is quite superb and far excels what i have now (studiomaster 16:2).
in the meantime however, i've noticed that alot of people here have digital mixers. i've always been told (mackie seminar) that analogue has a warmer sound.
now the newer generation is about i wondered what's new. hi-price digital mixers are now more affordable so should i indulge.
i'm not in a position to audition every mixer available (no stores nearby) but a recommendation would be good.
i have an akai s5000, supernova, vintage keys, R8, JX10 and effects units. i need inputs more than anything but cost is a factor.
whats the pros and cons?
thanx for unbiased advice
ciao
fink
Message 2/27 25-Oct-00 @ 06:39 PM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
I just got one used with a case for a grand..thats only $300 more than a VLZ.
warmer? sure. its analog. but thats what tubes are for? after your digital mixer...
Message 3/27 25-Oct-00 @ 08:01 PM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
If this site ever implemented signatures, mine would run something like that.
Message 4/27 25-Oct-00 @ 09:00 PM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
johnny loves his. hope I do too when it gets here. figger a couple weeks learnin it but hey..should be worth it!
Message 5/27 25-Oct-00 @ 09:10 PM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
Did anyone ever notice that the people who talk about analog being warmer or better than digital usually use stuff like Neve, SSL... Of course it's going to sound fantastic it's a hundred thousand dollar fucking console! There's really no comparison though between a mid-range Mackie desk and something like an 01V though.
-Craig
Message 6/27 26-Oct-00 @ 10:46 AM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
does anyone disagree that the 01v is the be all and end all??
Message 7/27 26-Oct-00 @ 11:49 AM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
Message 8/27 26-Oct-00 @ 12:40 PM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
Message 9/27 26-Oct-00 @ 04:46 PM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
-Craig
Message 10/27 26-Oct-00 @ 06:46 PM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
Message 11/27 28-Oct-00 @ 10:06 AM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
well...gettin the 8 analog card tomorrow and its ONCE AGAIN a studio re-do. last time tho. for suRE.
hell yeah this thing looks powerful!
Message 12/27 30-Oct-00 @ 12:07 PM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
Message 13/27 30-Oct-00 @ 12:52 PM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
There is only room for one expansion board, so if you want digital I/O don't order the analog input expansion board.
Message 14/27 30-Oct-00 @ 02:18 PM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
Influx - do you shit cash or something?
Message 15/27 30-Oct-00 @ 09:47 PM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
as for the Inputs on the O1v. 16, but 12 mono 2 stereo.
8 in analog card is about $220 or so?
And..uh..."if you want digital IO"???? uh..its GOT spdif IO. if you want ADAT IO you need the adat card and yeah, it only takes one card, so
Message 16/27 31-Oct-00 @ 02:07 AM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
I bought the adat expansion to connect the 01v to my computer for multitrack recording and playback.
I'll use the spdif in to hook up the K2000RS if possible.
Message 17/27 31-Oct-00 @ 02:37 AM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
oh, and jasper..SURE I SHIT CASH. want some? smells funny tho
Message 18/27 31-Oct-00 @ 11:48 AM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
was the promix 1 able to do this??
if the 01v can't do this, what can - only high end machines??
Message 19/27 31-Oct-00 @ 12:34 PM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
However, it is possible to set a fade time (up to 25 seconds) to fade from one scene to another. This fade probably includes gradually moving faders towards the new scene's fader positions.
Message 20/27 31-Oct-00 @ 12:37 PM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
should be
"record fader movements in realtime without an external sequencer"
Message 21/27 31-Oct-00 @ 01:49 PM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
Message 22/27 31-Oct-00 @ 07:34 PM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
and about linking several 01Vs - I like how all you need to do is buy a couple of cables to do this. The 'Cascade' kits for the 03D/02R cost about £800 :-)
Message 23/27 31-Oct-00 @ 11:15 PM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
(I'm trying to figure out something about the TR-909 that is somehow related to spending more money to get more inputs. The 909 has a stereo out, but the individiual outs are mono ? Doesn't seem to make much sense...)
Message 24/27 02-Nov-00 @ 06:46 PM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
-Craig
Message 25/27 02-Nov-00 @ 07:42 PM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
The reason I'm obsessing with this is that I want to be sure I'm not losing anything by using the individual (mono) outs...
Message 26/27 02-Nov-00 @ 09:34 PM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
-Craig
Message 27/27 03-Nov-00 @ 09:27 PM - RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?
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