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Original Message 1/33 14-Dec-99 @ 03:12 PM - House And Garage Patterns
cali
Message 2/33 14-Dec-99 @ 10:00 PM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
Message 3/33 15-Dec-99 @ 02:36 AM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
If you have a song, use it. Isolate the vocals and substitute original music with some jazzy chords. Maybe switch between minor and major chords. Can't explain it better musically (told I was an amateur!). Try filtering and EQing chords heavily.
When making your loop, layer the bassdrum with another bassdrum. Gives that funky, bouncy feel. Also try layering the snare.
Create a hi-hat pattern. Then give it some hi-pass and chop it up completely. And I mean totally tear it apart and drag and drop the pieces in random places untill it starts swinging. EQ the hi-hats differently.
I hope this will help a bit.
Message 4/33 15-Dec-99 @ 02:16 PM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
and krisgot, what is meant by "chop it up completely." could you explain what that means, tell me how it is done?
peace
Message 5/33 15-Dec-99 @ 06:24 PM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
Message 6/33 16-Dec-99 @ 01:31 AM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
That Shizm.com stuff is like the worst house music I've ever heard in my life!!! If that were the only house I'd ever heard, I'd think that all that Dance shit on top 40 radio is house, THAT'S how close that Shizm shit comes.
That stuff is practically DANCE music! Like that Cher song or something!!!
Underground, yo. Fuck THAT noise!
Just because you sample an African chant doesn't mean your track has soul. The beats have to have soul too...
I could sample an episode of Roseanne but it wouldn't give me phat beats...
ICK ICK ICK BAD BAD HOUSE MUSIC!!!
I'm sorry. I just can't stop.
I'm glad I live in the Midwest sometimes.
Detroit.
Chicago.
Fuck Boston if they play that shyte.
(Listed is a reproduction of the track I heard. Well...expand the idea to 4 measures. Add cliched bass progression. The sampled chant is 2 measures long)
Message 7/33 16-Dec-99 @ 08:36 AM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
Message 8/33 16-Dec-99 @ 08:44 AM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
What is garage?....hm..... one of these many evolving hybrids in dance music, that makes it so difficult to pinpoint. Here today, gone tomorrow. Garage was big in the US in the early 90's. Remember Kym Sims, Ce Ce Penniston and Robin S? I know, Mod, I know. That was commercial garage. Later Nightcrawlers and Basement Jaxx in the UK.
In terms of underground garage I've always found it very similar to deep house. Soulful vocals, jazzy chords, deep bass and often a raw, dark feel. For quality house music, one must, MUST, check out labels: Deepdish and Yoshitoshi, especially Penetrate Deeper, a classic. Also Twisted Records. Check out the compilations. And then there are the countless new artists on white labels and smaller labels. For the website the best I can do is satelliterecords.com and House in the listening booth. Go get'em!
Message 9/33 16-Dec-99 @ 08:58 AM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
Message 10/33 16-Dec-99 @ 12:10 PM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
I've got a friend who does underground (i.e. speed) garage remixes of people like Destiny's Child for Columbia. He tends to go for a flat 4/4 kick/snare beat and leave all the skittery beats to other noises over the top. A phat 909 kick is a good way to go, also grab some Emu SP-12 samples from the net for some tuff punchy-crunchy drum noises (or even try and buy one... ha ha
I take it you know the technique of not having every drum noise within the loop exactly on the beat (or 16th beat or whatever)? By moving certain sounds a *tiny* amount forward or back in your sequencer you can get that bouncy 'swing' that you talk about, even though things still sound tight. (Try moving kicks and snares and/or any other bits of percussion in your pattern and experiment to get that groove).
Message 11/33 16-Dec-99 @ 02:04 PM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
Yeah, I know...but I was tired and cranky. It's just that I've been listening to a few REALLY GOOD mixtapes that I picked of from a few parties.
This Chicago DJ - (Traxx) - spins this bomb-ass shit...it's what I would call garage/rare groove type shit. It's all piano/bass/lyric based and its got these women who can fucking sing. A year ago I would have abhorred that shit but...
I think his shit is heavily sampled based from this whole world of "old school disco/funk" of which I am totally too young to understand. I think that they are sampled because it just sounds a lot less clean than the stuff on that web site, which is good to me..it adds a lo-budget credibility factor.
Anyway...
Danielski...
Yeah, you gotta throw things off a little if you want real house. Using triplets also adds authenticity (not playing all three, but say, moving the last 16th note of each beat to the3rd triplet right after it - on 96 ppq it's clock 80 instead of 72).
But, I usually just go with computer accuracy and make death-disco (<-that's supposed to be funny...umm..I guess)
Message 12/33 16-Dec-99 @ 02:04 PM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
Yeah, I know...but I was tired and cranky. It's just that I've been listening to a few REALLY GOOD mixtapes that I picked of from a few parties.
This Chicago DJ - (Traxx) - spins this bomb-ass shit...it's what I would call garage/rare groove type shit. It's all piano/bass/lyric based and its got these women who can fucking sing. A year ago I would have abhorred that shit but...
I think his shit is heavily sampled based from this whole world of "old school disco/funk" of which I am totally too young to understand. I think that they are sampled because it just sounds a lot less clean than the stuff on that web site, which is good to me..it adds a lo-budget credibility factor.
Anyway...
Danielski...
Yeah, you gotta throw things off a little if you want real house. Using triplets also adds authenticity (not playing all three, but say, moving the last 16th note of each beat to the3rd triplet right after it - on 96 ppq it's clock 80 instead of 72).
But, I usually just go with computer accuracy and make death-disco (<-that's supposed to be funny...umm..I guess)
Message 13/33 27-Dec-99 @ 01:22 AM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
Message 14/33 14-Jan-00 @ 10:42 PM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
Message 15/33 15-Jan-00 @ 12:31 AM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
What does it sound like ?
Message 16/33 21-Jan-00 @ 09:06 PM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
Message 17/33 22-Jan-00 @ 01:12 PM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
but for our US cousins lets just clarify here .... we are talking about UK Garage - what was called Speed-garage when it first appeared... It's a London thing.. heh heh.. has anyone gone out on the M4 motorway, when you approach london, there is a sign saying.. "London", (surprise) and someones sprayed 'THING' under it..., but now in the uk people just say 'garage', and they dropped the 'speed' bit... it's NOTHING like house at all... well, there are relationships, but the drum structure is totally different, here are various varieties and feels, and it has a swing, it can incorporate jungle type licks etc in the beats on some variations, also heavey turntablist work in live sets... to me it is the most interesting drum programing out there at the moment along with some of the dancehall crossovers... some of the programming is fierce -
Message 18/33 24-Jan-00 @ 11:51 AM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
peace
Message 19/33 27-Feb-00 @ 11:56 PM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
Message 20/33 28-Feb-00 @ 02:09 AM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
Message 21/33 14-Mar-00 @ 04:45 PM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
EMU esi4000 sampler
Yamaha cs1x synth
Yamaha SW1000 sound card
Alesis nano bass
Spirit folio sx mixer
spirit absolute 2 monitors (kicking)
Message 22/33 15-Mar-00 @ 10:38 PM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
I'm an "A-mare-ih-can" (mocking my northern inland Detroit dialect for all you English blokes!) and the garage on that web site would be called "top 40 dance" around here. I wouldn't really call that stuff the "root of house" as that would be Chicago, three hours west of my front door. That stuff is very shiny...
It must be a London thing. Like dead hookers on Michigan Avenue is a Detroit thing.
(or booty...do you guys know DJ ASSAULT? Ass and Titties anyone? heh...)
But mucho respect to the English...we just have different house sensibilities.
Message 23/33 21-Mar-00 @ 01:28 AM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
who is a Major artist in garage (maybe i have heard something from 'em)
it seems to me like a house/drum and bass hybrid, by using the stardard 4/4 bastard son of disco kiks , with the cut up crazyness of jungle. Or i could have it all wrong
I heard it described as the resolution between opposite factors in music (i.e mechanical vs human timing, artifical vs real, complex vs clean,using most of the feelings of most elctronica and acoustic music)
But i have never really heard it .
Message 24/33 21-Mar-00 @ 05:48 PM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
Message 25/33 21-Mar-00 @ 06:53 PM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
Message 26/33 21-Mar-00 @ 07:06 PM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
not trying to be picky but just thought id inform the americans.
Message 27/33 21-Mar-00 @ 08:15 PM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
Message 28/33 21-Mar-00 @ 08:18 PM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
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Message 31/33 28-Mar-00 @ 05:10 AM - RE: House And Garage Patterns
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