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Subject: experimenting with the 7/4
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Original Message 1/3 23-Jan-00 @ 12:00 PM - experimenting with the 7/4
i have just started to expriement with different time signitures (expriementing being the word)i programed a few things but they just dont sound right to me,could someone with a bit of know how explain a basic break,for example when working with 4/4 on a 16 step seguencer i would program .......the bass drum 1,13,15 then 5,11,15 then 1,5,13,15 then 3,5,11......side drum 3,9 then 3,9 then 3,9 then 9,13 ect...(how would that work on the 4/7).......yours sincerly "confused"
Message 2/3 03-Feb-00 @ 01:16 AM - RE: experimenting with the 7/4
4/7 does not exist...no such thing as a 7th note...if you are using cakewalk, i can send you a .wrk file of some stuff in 7/4 i have been working on lately...not really dance, but it might give you an idea...basically...7/4 is like this....you obviously know 4/4...do you know 3/4...kik on one snare on two and three or kik on one and two, snare on three...(basically, oversimplified for the purposes here)...well, put 3/4 and 4/4 together and you get 7/4...kind of like one bar of 4/4 then one bar of 3/4 then one bar of 4/4 then one of 3/4 and so on and so for and such as that...so you get all the options of 4/4 and all the options of 3/4 put together...every measure...
once you get this down...you can get more complicated...are you familiar with basic punk 2/4...one two two two three two four two <---|4 measures of 2/4|....well...you take one measure of 4/4, one measure of 2/4, and one to improvise with...put these 3 parts in any order, then have fun..
if you get really cool w/ it you can have a 4/4 beat, but insert the 1 measure improve right in the middle, or after the first or third beat of it...this can create some pretty cool patterns...
once you get this down...you can get more complicated...are you familiar with basic punk 2/4...one two two two three two four two <---|4 measures of 2/4|....well...you take one measure of 4/4, one measure of 2/4, and one to improvise with...put these 3 parts in any order, then have fun..
if you get really cool w/ it you can have a 4/4 beat, but insert the 1 measure improve right in the middle, or after the first or third beat of it...this can create some pretty cool patterns...
Message 3/3 03-Feb-00 @ 02:30 PM - RE: experimenting with the 7/4
hello ellipsis,thanks 4 the reply i am not that familiar with punk(you lost me with one two two bit!you explained the 7/4 KIK ON ONE SNARE ON ect well..i get that bit....i am very new to makeing music intrested in jazz,drum and bass,anything alternative.over the pass couple of months i have been programing 4/4 figured out various breaks..pleased with what i have been doing....now i want to learn some new things,had a go at 5/4 liked it ,but i cant seem to vary it the same way i can with 4/4 (i guess it,s more pratice)so any ideas you can give me would be appericated.one thing i am a bit of a dumb ,dumd i dont get this one,two,two,three bussiness so if you could simplify 4 me please,or explain is 1 the kik 2 the snare 2,2 is that snare,snare or WHAT? thanks ginger steve.....ps the cake walk no good to me,useing rm1x.a midi would work though...
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