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Original Message 1/8             05-Sep-00  @  05:33 AM   -   techno percussion

Brent Finch

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when u listen to techno , and by this i mean the likes of jeff mills , dve clarke , technasia , dj rush and the likes and not the rave-ish stuff
there's always some great hihat-crash)-ride-perc patters i can t seem to find out myself , so if any has an idea...


There's also this sound of the complete record reversed , i mean it sounds like it , but ive tried and that isnt the thing to do so once again , any1 have an idea??


other techno tricks welcome too



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Message 2/8             25-Sep-00  @  06:54 AM   -   RE: techno percussion

Jasper

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layer the hi-hats.. clean ones/dirty ones/dephased ones.

there's been loads of stuff mentioned.. do a search for techno in this forum.



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Message 3/8             26-Sep-00  @  05:54 PM   -   RE: techno percussion

Derrick

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I have noticed that if i go to add a second hi hat loop atop another, i get real bad phasing. How do you prevent this? Do i need to high pass filter the second loop till i no longer hear the phasing. Haven't had time to try this.



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Message 4/8             27-Sep-00  @  07:18 AM   -   RE: techno percussion

jasper

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try using different hihat sounds



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Message 5/8             09-Oct-00  @  01:32 PM   -   RE: techno percussion

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You really can't prevent the slight phasing if you have two copies of the same loop so you have more or less 2 options:

1) Don't use loops. Writing your own hihat patterns will give better and more original results. And no phasing problems.

or

2) Pitch the loops up and down a bit to get some proper detuning and pan them left and right. That way you can use the phasing to your advantage, making a fatter, wider sound.



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Message 6/8             10-Oct-00  @  11:57 PM   -   RE: techno percussion

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And the reversing sound is often just done in digital multitracking...

(reverse the waveform of a quarter note)

The kicks, I've not mastered, though. I always get (electronic) "c-thmp" when I need "KKCK - " (slammy-reverb).



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Message 7/8             11-Oct-00  @  04:08 AM   -   RE: techno percussion

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I'll have to listen to what your talking about I'm an electro/acid freak but it might be a 707 crash.I don't know though.



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Message 8/8             11-Oct-00  @  11:07 AM   -   RE: techno percussion

Jasper

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a delay unit can help with the hihats also.. and don't be afraid to use white noise as an open sound, drop it low in the mix and if using a sampler dephase it so it's panned left&right at the same time.. layer that with the hat's patterns and the hifreq start to clash.. then the real rythmical patterns will emerge.

basically layering hats etc.



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