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Subject: Jasper: Loop timing Off
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Original Message 1/4 26-Sep-00 @ 05:48 PM - Jasper: Loop timing Off
Hey Jasper, or anyone else who may have an answer to this question. I am resampling Loops in my a4k, but when i go to play them back they don't trigger on time. Usually i think they are a bit late, point is, when i convert parts of the loop to 2 or 4 bar patterns they never seem to trigger on time. I remeber you mentioned this problem in an older discussion, i beleive you mentioned trimming 196 Mls off the tip of the loop. Well i was hoping you might give me more info on the reason this is happening, so i can figure out how to go about resolving this issue. I tried 196 and i think it helped but i'm not sure it was synced properly yet. I figure if i knew more, as to the cause of this problem, i could more coherently find the correct setting and continue to use that formula from now on to make my loops fit correctly. I am using the automatic trigger way of recording.
i was at first immediatly chopping all the initial head room off, slicing precisely to begining of the loop, and then triggering the loop from the correct spot in the measure; i.e., down to the 16th note, but that was makeing the loops trigger way too early. They ended up stuttering into one another. Sorry so long but i figure the more detail the better.
Cheers
Chris
i was at first immediatly chopping all the initial head room off, slicing precisely to begining of the loop, and then triggering the loop from the correct spot in the measure; i.e., down to the 16th note, but that was makeing the loops trigger way too early. They ended up stuttering into one another. Sorry so long but i figure the more detail the better.
Cheers
Chris
Message 2/4 26-Sep-00 @ 06:26 PM - RE: Jasper: Loop timing Off
Me thinks me figured it out. I had the loops shuffled slightly, and many of them started on a shuffled 16th note. I think when i was triggering the loop i fogot to allow for exact replication of shuffled start. That make sense?
Message 3/4 27-Sep-00 @ 07:13 AM - RE: Jasper: Loop timing Off
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sort of. make sure you have zero seek on when your trimming samples. Start with a jump of 100 and start searching for the start of the sound, when the value gets to a non-multiple of 100, change the jump value to 10 or 1 and start moving backwards. it's also easier to audition the sample at a lower note, -36 or something on the tuning.. makes it easier to hear if your near the start of the sound or not.
hope this helps.
hope this helps.
Message 4/4 29-Sep-00 @ 10:59 PM - RE: Jasper: Loop timing Off
If you've got the sampler attached by SCSI to a PC then suck the sample into the tinywave editor to see where the sound starts, chances are that you'll be able to edit it and send it back, or work out the offset. On the A3000 the find start function on the sampler doesn't always quite get it right, I don't know if it's any better on the new ones, but I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't. Oh and you might be able to see it on the Sampler display, but maybe not.
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