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Subject: How do you make a good trance drum beat?


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Original Message 1/15             22-Oct-00  @  11:27 AM   -   How do you make a good trance drum beat?

toomas

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I wonder how do you make a good trance drum beat.
What effects are u putting on the drums to get them "punchy"?
What effects are u putting on hihats and handclaps?
Do you have many sounds in a drum beat like maracas, closed hihats and so on?
Tell me how you make a good trance beat.



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Message 2/15             23-Oct-00  @  08:06 AM   -   RE: How do you make a good trance drum beat?

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there can be alot of variation in trance, check out this excerpt... It's an unreleased track by Chirs organic which i'm probably going to put on this CD we are doing... boost up the midrange on your mixer when you play this back and listen to the detail going on in the drums as the track builds and builds subtly over minutes... this is just an excerpt but it goes on building and building with synths coming in and out... when you are at a trance gig and tripping this kind of track comes along and those drum details really draw you in to concentrate on them, but the whole vibe has dropped down to a more concentrated vibe ready for any building to crescendo's... just think tribal and you cant go wrong with trance.



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Message 3/15             24-Oct-00  @  04:58 AM   -   RE: How do you make a good trance drum beat?

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this is the most basic of all trance beats i think, yes u can throw just about any sound in you want as long as it sounds good and makes it roll a little, (put a little swing in it and u got house?)



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Message 4/15             25-Oct-00  @  06:08 AM   -   RE: How do you make a good trance drum beat?

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I can't belive that was even possible.i'll shut up now.

-;)



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Message 5/15             26-Oct-00  @  02:20 PM   -   RE: How do you make a good trance drum beat?

Syn

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shit i dont know what house sounds like hehe hence the question mark at the end



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Message 6/15             26-Oct-00  @  10:45 PM   -   RE: How do you make a good trance drum beat?

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mate,
on the offbeats of a trance drum track, its not a click, its an open hihat.(i suggest a pitched up 909 open hat for a decent trance sound)



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Message 7/15             27-Oct-00  @  09:09 AM   -   RE: How do you make a good trance drum beat?

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it can be anything I want it to be really as long as it sounds good to me. yes it is usually a closed hihat from a 909, we all have a fat folder of those samples somewhere on our hard drive



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Message 8/15             30-Oct-00  @  09:26 AM   -   RE: How do you make a good trance drum beat?

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The tambaurine must change in velocity every step(That's one loud and one not so loud). try making a 'groove' with the velocity.



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Message 9/15             02-Nov-00  @  11:45 PM   -   RE: How do you make a good trance drum beat?

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Remember speed about 132-134 (this keeps people dancing for hours and hours)Fuck swing for trance, it's mostly straight quantitisation. Start by 'blending'the kick and the Bass...give the kick it's onw frequency in the lower regions....same fro the bass..

straigt Kick + syncopated bass + hat is good too...works almost always.



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Message 10/15             03-Nov-00  @  12:48 PM   -   RE: How do you make a good trance drum beat?

Jasper

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yeah, a lot of the groove will come from how the sounds are interacting. So make sure your sounds love each other and want to spend quality time making little funky sounds of there own and that.



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Message 11/15             04-Nov-00  @  02:08 AM   -   RE: How do you make a good trance drum beat?

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Try to add some reverb or flange effects on the HH and/or on the claps (use drumstation Dt-10 to do it, it's good to make those effects). Don't boost too much the CLAPS volume (it may feels TOO house-like). At each four or eight beats, change slightly the TB303 tune. (sorry for the bad english, i'm from Brazil)



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Message 12/15             04-Nov-00  @  11:08 AM   -   RE: How do you make a good trance drum beat?

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thanx for your comments. Do you know witch sounds Rank1, Airscape and Ferry Corsten uses in their drum beats and how they make them?



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Message 13/15             15-Nov-00  @  07:17 PM   -   RE: How do you make a good trance drum beat?

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use two compressors first one tube so you you get the warm sound (use the tube compressor on all the drums) then use a usualy so you get it punchy (hard) just on the kick, clap, and the snare, then the sounds like the drums flys, then use a reverb on the kick drum and a onother to all the other sounds....if you really want a fat sound use this tip
if you want a good cheap tube compressor bye fatman from tl audio (450 dollar) if you have money check on the dbx compressors, the secert to get fat drums is to use a compressor!!!



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Message 14/15             15-Nov-00  @  09:24 PM   -   RE: How do you make a good trance drum beat?

toomas

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thanx for the tips!

keep posting your tips how to make hihats, handclaps and how to make phat drums in style of rank1, lange, ferry corsten, airscape



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Message 15/15             16-Nov-00  @  03:53 AM   -   RE: How do you make a good trance drum beat?

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if you put a comp on the hats layered on the snare beat, the make it slowest attack, and 12-o'clock ish release and LOTS of compression it makes the hats sorta pump... nice fx to dtrive a beat along - just mess with the THRESHOLD until it starts to whack



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