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Subject: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8


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Original Message 1/29             15-May-98  @  05:39 PM   -   RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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Unless you can get a TB-303 for cheap, forget about it. If you want that 303 sound and feel, get Rebirth v1.5 (or higher) and buy a Roland MCR-8. The MCR-8 is a MIDI controller which can plug into your joystick port of your sound card (MIDI IN), It has 8 knobs and 8 sliders, both with dual function (so in essance you have 16 knobs and sliders, so if you really wanna get crazy, you can have 4 TB-303's).



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Message 2/29             16-May-98  @  09:52 PM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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Yea,how much does the MCR-8 go for?Also with,the 8 knobs and 8 sliders,what would I be able to asign them to cuz the 303s have have 6 knobs.....would this mean Im going to have some unassigned knobs on the MCR?thanks!



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Message 3/29             17-May-98  @  09:33 PM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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I bought my MCR-8 for $400.00 CAN, but the retail price is $650.00 CAN (I got it for $400.00 'cause it was the last one). And ya, if you want two TB-303's at the same time, you'll have to cut down on some knobs. Fuck the TUNE and ACCENT, just use CUTOFF, RESONANCE, ENVELOPE, and DECAY. I usually assign the last knob (the 9th on the MASTER section) to be the TUNE, and if you wanna change the TUNE on the second 303, just use the dual function key. So, in essance, everything works out fine with this machine!



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Message 4/29             03-Jun-98  @  12:37 PM   -   Does enyone have the serialnumbers for rebirth 1.0

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I got my self a craced version of a rebirth 338 ver 1.0

but I don`t have the serial number so I can`t send my own productions to the propellerheads

please send me the serial numbers if you have some that I can use

thanks



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Message 5/29             05-Jun-98  @  11:17 PM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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Check out the new phatboy controler from KeyFax.



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Message 6/29             06-Jun-98  @  04:36 PM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

pedicelli

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The Phatboy is full of shit. You've got a few knobs and that's about it. With the MCR-8, you can have 16 knobs and 16 sliders (with the dual function), and a shit load of buttons to be programmed for controlling the sequences...



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Message 7/29             20-Jun-98  @  11:12 AM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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have any of you used the "PHAT.BOY" yet? from what i have read about it this is the bomb! is it really? i'm gonna buy mine in 2 weeks...

i'll be using mine to control my (roland) pma-5,and rebirth v2.0.

greetings from:

austin,texas



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Message 8/29             20-Jun-98  @  05:22 PM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

pedicelli

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Forget the Phatboy...I told ya, it's full of crap...just compare the Roland MCR-8 to it...
The Phatboy has only something like 14 knobs and that's it....

The Roland MCR-8 has 9 sliders (17 with dual function), 9 knobs (17 with dual function), 24 buttons, and sequence buttons (play, stop...)...



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Message 9/29             05-Jul-98  @  08:58 AM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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Dear pedicilli.
That info about the mcr-8 is the most useful info I've read on dancetech so far. Thanks for your help...I've decided to but another pc for rebirth and hook it up to a mcr-8 if I can find one. Thanks for enlightening me...I can't wait to try it out!



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Message 10/29             06-Jul-98  @  01:28 AM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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I read up on the MCR-8 and now I want one. This thing sounds hella dope. I found them at MIDI-classics.com for $285 U.S. Does anyone have one for sale or know where I can find one cheaper? I want one so I'm just trying to look around first. E-mail me if you might know.



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Message 11/29             06-Jul-98  @  03:55 AM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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Check it out, I looked up the Phatboy and I found out that you can use the reso knobs and shit with your sampler and not just with software. Does any know more about this? I use an ASR-10 and would be sprung if the Phatboy would work with it. Does anyone know if it would or not? It is priced at $249 U.S. I am comparing the Phatboy to the MCR-8, which is $285 U.S. If you have an opinion, e-mail me or post it here 'cause I am interested.



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Message 12/29             22-Jul-98  @  11:09 PM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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Jesus H Christ...I don't know how many times I have to say it...the Phatboy is shit...who cares if you can use the knobs with your sampler...you can do the same thing with the MCR-8...the MCR-8 has 4 modes: GS Control, MIDI Mixer, and 2 software modes. The phatboy has no bloody sliders, so don't think that it will be easy to control most of the stuff...

Use the 9 knobs (17 with dual function) for up to 4 TB-303's, and the sliders (9 of them, 17 with dual function) to control the drum machines. Use the buttons all over the place to control the pattern sequences, and the buttons in the lower hand corner to control the simple sequence (play, stop...). There's also a bunch of extra buttons you can use to turn certain things on and off...I like to program the buttons to do synth 1 on and off, PCF on and off, etc...it's all up to you.

The phatboy can't even due 10% of what I mentioned. Believe me, if you want that TB-303 feel, and love the feel of live performance, get a Roland MCR-8 and hook it up to RB-338. The Phatboy can kiss my phat ass.



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Message 13/29             22-Jul-98  @  11:11 PM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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Here...all you Phatboy lovers...learn something...go to:

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/6939/

It's Saynormore's MCR-8 homepage. It also includes a program to use with MIDI controllers which has unlimited RB-338 functions. An amazing program if you ask me.



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Message 14/29             31-Jul-98  @  04:19 PM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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Why is everybody so excited by Phatboy
Yes its good for controlling things like MC303, but its a
bit pricey
Rebirth has a easy mapping fuction. Why not use a
Novation basstation keyboard. They are really cheap
second hand, and I bet loads of you had one before
rebirth for that Acid sounds.
Its got shit loads of knobs to control rebirth and it also does pretty good bass sounds on its own.



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Message 15/29             31-Jul-98  @  08:00 PM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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Check out my webpage for more information on the Roland MCR-8. There will soon be more pictures...

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/3068/smek.htm



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Message 16/29             28-Aug-98  @  12:09 AM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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Well, anyone ever try the pc1600? If you have other gear, i think it is much better..although I DO
like the knobs on the mcr-8..But, can the mcr-8 do sysex control? OTOH, I DO like the dual function of the mcr8..pretty cool..maybe ill buy one of those too..
rob



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Message 17/29             28-Aug-98  @  08:43 PM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

pedicelli

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The Yamaha PC1600 is shit as well...it's only got sliders...with those you don't get the whole feel of the 303...



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Message 18/29             29-Aug-98  @  12:13 AM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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Damn! You really love that MCR-8 dont you? Calm down. Na, but for real...I want one!!!



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Message 19/29             29-Aug-98  @  03:36 AM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

pedicelli

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I praise my MCR-8 and everything else in inferior!!!!!!!!  

(I even kiss it before going to bed....it's the new silver box!)

.....except it's kinda greyish....standard modern Roland colour..



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Message 20/29             23-Sep-98  @  03:39 AM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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I don't own ReBirth(yet) but plan on purchasing it, and I was wondering if using the MCR-8 with Rebirth required any other hardware/software, and how difficult it is.
Thnx,
Rhett



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Message 21/29             23-Sep-98  @  08:48 PM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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I believe that it is a fairly easy job to replace the pc1600 sliders with knobs if it means that much to ya!  ~
Jeezus!!



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Message 22/29             23-Sep-98  @  11:46 PM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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You need no additional hardware, only a MIDI IN on your soundcard (usually the joystick port). Then you'll need a virtual MIDI device to get the LBI and LB2 channels. You'll also need Saynomore's MIDI translator. See my webpage for more details:

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/3068/smek.htm



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Message 23/29             26-Sep-98  @  01:49 PM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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is ther a crack for rebirth 1.5 demo yet?



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Message 24/29             26-Sep-98  @  03:25 PM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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There was one ten million years ago.



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Message 25/29             27-Sep-98  @  12:02 AM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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Shit, theres already a crack for the 2.0 version.



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Message 26/29             28-Sep-98  @  03:00 AM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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Man, don't go for a crack or some lame ass shit like that. The guys at propellerheads are geniuses and work their asses off to try and make a living by making wicked ass software such as this. Instead of ripping them off why don't we support them, so we can get more cheap alternatives to buying very expensive analogue shit that really can do very little. I just hope that once you get your crack, when you have to distribute your music illegaly because you didn't recieve a funky looking box and cd and a serial number to allow you to post and distribute your songs, that some punk ass kids go and make 30 boot leg copies of your tracks, and sell them for themselves and make themselves a tidy profit where you get royally screwed, and end up losing more money than if you were to fork up some dough which is really not that much for what you get, plus great support, upgrades, and ability to load your own sounds. Have a nice day  

by the way, to people who know about the phatboy and
MCR-8, just a small question. I know I will catch shit for even mentioning the phatboy, as the MCR-8 is infinitely superior  but are the controls on the phatboy set and cannot be changed or remapped? cause I notied there is no control for modulation, which is a pretty big deal when using ReBirth, as that is an essential control, among also theres no control for tune, and changing between sawtooth and square waves. Any insight on this would be appreciated. Thanx,
Rhett



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Message 27/29             28-Sep-98  @  09:04 AM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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can anybody email me a site where i could download a version of the rb 2.0 for macintosh? thanks. sam.



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Message 28/29             28-Sep-98  @  10:33 AM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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An (expensive) alternative to the PhatBoy or the MCR-8 would be an Access Virus (or is that considered blasphemy on this page?). You would be able to control all those RB338 parameters with the Virus knobs and you would have all those pretty good Virus sounds into the bargain. Certainly cheaper than buying a 909, 808 and 2 303s.



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Message 29/29             28-Sep-98  @  10:38 PM   -   RE: RB-338 & the Roland MCR-8

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Mentioning Phatboy on this page blasphemy? Ya damn straight!!!   I'll just rip my hair out right now......Ya, the Phatboy can be programmed for anything....the labeling has jerk all to do with it....but again, the MCR-8 kicks ass. For more info, as I've always been mentioning, check out my site, it's the last topic:

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/3068/smek.htm



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