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Subject: SELLING ONE FOR 303$
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Original Message 1/22 14-Sep-98 @ 10:25 PM - SELLING ONE FOR 303$
TB-303 FOR ( BELIEVE IT OR NOT,I'M NOT FUCKING AROUND! ) FOR 303$.
NO, THIS IS NOY A TYPO. I MIGHT EVEN CONSIDER LOWERING THE PRICE !!!!!!!!!THE THING IS, THAT IN 1981, WHEN IT FIRST CAME OUT, I HAD BOUGHT ONE AND MY BAND BROKE UP. I USED IT FOR NO MORE THAN 2 WEEKS !!!!!!
I THEN PUT IT BACK IN THE BOX AND STORED IN MY CLOSET FOR THE LAST
17 YEARS !!!! DO YOU PEOPLE REALIZE THAT THIS PIECE OF HISTORY STILL
SMELLS OF NEW, JUST LIKE WHEN I BOUGHT IT IN 1981 ??! I KNOW YOU
PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE ME.....BUT YOU JUST HAVE TO, OR YOU'LL BE
MISSING THE GREATEST OPERTUNITY TO FINALLY GET THE SYNTH OF
YOUR DREAMS! I NEVER USED IT BECAUSE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THE
TB-303 WAS CONSIDERED LIKE CRAP IN THOSE DAYS. I EVEN THOUGHT
IT WAS CRAP MYSELF!! (AND I HATE MYSELF FOR THINKING THAT)
I DON'T EVEN USE IT NOW BECAUSE I'M OLD, AND I'M NOT REALLY INTO
TECHNO MUSIC. WHO WILL BE THE LUCKY, LUCKY, LUCKY GUY (OR GIRL)
TO IT?!?! DON'T WORRY I'LL EVEN PAY THE SHIPPING ! JUST LEAVE ME YOUR
EMAIL ADDRESS, AND WE WILL GET IN TOUCH. I REPEAT MYSELF THIS
IS NOT A JOKE, AND I SWEAR THAT EVERYTHING I SAID IS TRUE.
Message 2/22 14-Sep-98 @ 10:33 PM - RE: SELLING ONE FOR 303$
Message 3/22 14-Sep-98 @ 10:39 PM - RE: SELLING ONE FOR 303$
Message 4/22 15-Sep-98 @ 12:26 PM - RE: SELLING ONE FOR 303$
I have the money waiting.
Message 5/22 15-Sep-98 @ 06:40 PM - RE: SELLING ONE FOR 303$
Message 6/22 16-Sep-98 @ 03:44 PM - RE: SELLING ONE FOR 303$
Whoever buys it.... Are you going to get the chance to see it work?
This guys selling it for 303 (cute price) but when it comes down to it 400 is still cheap, hell 500 is still cheap for a MINT hardly used still boxed that apparently smells fresh....
Tell you what... If he offers it to one of you. Post back here to say it has happened... If it's dodgy then you'll all be posting back to brag about your success..
Sorry but, someone who knows how mutch you can get for one of these aint going to be selling it that cheap. Just don't like seeing people ripped off like.
(I feel like the miserable git that you sometimes get at parties now).
Message 7/22 17-Sep-98 @ 05:17 PM - RE: SELLING ONE FOR 303$
TO ALL YOU SUCKERS OUT THERE WHO DIDN'T BELIEVE HIM, I JUST WANT TO TELL
YOU THAT I JUST RECEIVED IT AND IT'S EXACTLY HOW HE SAID IT WOULD BE!!!!!!!!
HECK, IT STILL SMELLS LIKE NEW AND IT'S PERFECTLY FUNCTIONAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I DIDN'T BELIEVE IT AT FIRST EITHER BUT IT'S TRUUUUUEEEEEE !!!
I'M NOW THE PROUD OWNER OF A MINT (and when i mean mint, it's MINT !!) TB-303 THAT I ONLY PAID 303$ !!!!!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH GABY, WHENEVER YOU NEED SOME
EQUIPMENT, JUST TELL ME. I'D BE GLAD TO RETURN YOU THE FAVOR.
P.S. HEY RICHIE, I DON'T BLAME YOU FOR NOT BELIEVING GABY, BUT IT WAS ALL TRUE
AND I DIDN'T GET RIPPED OFF. I ASKED HIM WHY HE WAS SELLING IT FOR SO LOW,
AND HE TOLD ME THAT HE NEEDED MONEY FAST TO BUY AN ENGAGEMENT RING FOR
HIS FUTURE WIFE ! ! (in my opinion, no woman is worth more than a tb-303 !)
Message 8/22 17-Sep-98 @ 11:34 PM - RE: SELLING ONE FOR 303$
And the TB-303 is worth shit today because of the FutureRetro 777....back down to less than 100 US....
Message 9/22 18-Sep-98 @ 10:34 AM - RE: SELLING ONE FOR 303$
On the other hand, I've never thought that the 303 was worth as mutch as it has been fetching..
Maybe if the 777 looked EXACTLY like an original 303 with EXACTLY the same components then I could it affecting the price.. But that aint gonna happen because if you built a synth like that it would cost around 700ukp because of the availability of original components which in most cases is zero.
Is'nt that what Roland said in the Future Music interview. It just is'nt viable to re-release any of the classic roland stuff in they're original form.
Message 10/22 18-Sep-98 @ 09:41 PM - RE: SELLING ONE FOR 303$
Message 11/22 18-Sep-98 @ 11:03 PM - RE: SELLING ONE FOR 303$
Message 12/22 19-Sep-98 @ 03:53 AM - RE: SELLING ONE FOR 303$
Message 13/22 19-Sep-98 @ 06:17 AM - RE: SELLING ONE FOR 303$
Message 14/22 19-Sep-98 @ 08:59 AM - RE: SELLING ONE FOR 303$
The cost of making an EXACT replica, would mean that the unit would be loads more expensive than the cost of a 2nd hand one, (this was when they were fetching 900+). Hence in the 2nd hand market would still hold it's overpriced value. And no-one would buy the new ones because who wants to pay 1000+ plus for a mono-synth that don't do anything but acid. At a time when there are shit loads of 303 style monosynths around..
I suppose tho that they could have built one with new components. But then that's been done by everyone else, Roland missed the boat with the 303 really. It sold fuck all when they built it, and now they're too late to catch the bus
I guess what they could have done would be to market a Freebass type thing in a 303 case..
Ah well.
Message 15/22 19-Sep-98 @ 06:28 PM - RE: SELLING ONE FOR 303$
Almost ALL of the 303 synth components are available except for the ba662 VCA, which is just your standard type of OTA with an output buffer. Fairly easily replaced.
The ONLY thing that isnt made anymore is some of the chips in the sequencer section, all of which are completely outclassed by todays cheapest microprocessors.. Lets be honest, the tb303 is crappy as a sequencer and very unfriendly, so any modern sequencer is infinitely easier and better than the original sequencer.. I guess now you are going to say that the microprocessor has something to do with the sound? Sorry, try again..
What you are trying to say is that there is some sort of voodoo to the tb303, but there isnt..Electricity flows the same way now as it did in 1981.
The only problem has been that up until now all these companies have been afraid that Roland is going to sue them and change too many things in the original tb303 circuits and label them "improvements", when really all they did was screw it up.. Even the FreeBass and Syntecno TeeBee suffers from this.. They are good, but not good enough and have no sequencer.
Another problem is that really good analog engineers are usually not very good digital engineers, and vice versa.
So, my theory is that most analog engineers who build the neo-303s are not very good at digital and take the easy way out by making it midi. WRONG ANSWER!
The 777 has them both.. No corners were cut, and many features were ADDED without a compromise in ANY part of the original tb303 sound.. The 777 needs to be experienced before judgements are made. You will not be dissapointed. Believe the hype..
Rob
ps I truly believe that the post that started this thread was bunk.. But I DO expect the 777 to push the 303 price down eventually.
Message 16/22 20-Sep-98 @ 04:20 PM - RE: SELLING ONE FOR 303$
Message 17/22 20-Sep-98 @ 05:03 PM - RE: SELLING ONE FOR 303$
Message 18/22 20-Sep-98 @ 09:56 PM - RE: SELLING ONE FOR 303$
But then software wise, Rebirth does an excellent job too. I have version 2.0 and it's hooked up to my Roland MCR-8 Multi Controller for all knob and slider action. It's kick ass. If this interests you, check out my website at:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/3068/smek.htm
Message 19/22 21-Sep-98 @ 03:42 AM - RE: SELLING ONE FOR 303$
can't modify the filters on rebirth with just a soldering iron and a schematic.
Message 20/22 21-Sep-98 @ 03:56 PM - RE: SELLING ONE FOR 303$
My fault for listening (nay, believing) someone who said they knew what they were talking about.. Maybe If I'd carried on with my electronics course I'd have the know how to check these things out for myself....
Feel free to laugh, point and throw rotten fruit at me as I walk down the street.
Sniff..
PS. I still stand by what I said about being commercially viable. I don't think roland won't re-release them because of being pig-headed, at the end of the day they're out to make cash and plenty of it.
Message 21/22 21-Sep-98 @ 09:43 PM - RE: SELLING ONE FOR 303$
Message 22/22 22-Sep-98 @ 10:29 AM - RE: SELLING ONE FOR 303$
I guess it had a lot to do with me being 17 at the time plus an increasing interest in machine code programming.. (Yes I used to be a geek).. I'd skive of from college so I could go home a refine a mandlebrot program I was working on.. Too my shame.
It's a pity because my dad promised to buy me one of the Tandy synth kits when I passed the course which at the time I think were over 1000ukp (1987).. I could really have done with that knowledge now.. (as my previous post demonstrates)..
Still... I've got my studio and I'm happy :-)
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