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Forums - Synths & synthesis
Subject: Groove Approved
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Original Message 1/40 18-Feb-99 @ 04:46 AM - Groove Approved
Ok, well my definition of a groove approved product.
"groove approved"-A "raver's" machine for producing cheezy dance music, a waste of metal and wires, designed for a bunch of kids who "don't know", a too easy to program drum machine/synth,ok, I'd better stop cause I won't if I don't force myself too.
And for those who think it's "cool" or "awsome" your obviously a stupid raver kid. ok, so let's see. When is the last time you saw this? "Richie Hawtin- decks, efx, and a MC-303"??? Hmmm, uh......never. When will you ever see this? "Jeff Mills- decks, MC-505"??? hmmm, never? Uh yeah, I think so. So it comes down to this, if you own, plan to own, or actually like these stupid machines, you're obviously a very lost child. And feel happy to rip on me and try and back up the "groove approved" shit, cause I don't give a fucking shit about anyone who likes anything that's "groove approved". And for those who know, please teach others, cause if this is the future, count me out of it, and plan for techno/house/jungle/anything to take a seriouse downfall from a bunch of shitty ass "groove approved" made records siting in a record store for about 50 years.
Well, later and fuck anything "groove oriented" by roland.
"groove approved"-A "raver's" machine for producing cheezy dance music, a waste of metal and wires, designed for a bunch of kids who "don't know", a too easy to program drum machine/synth,ok, I'd better stop cause I won't if I don't force myself too.
And for those who think it's "cool" or "awsome" your obviously a stupid raver kid. ok, so let's see. When is the last time you saw this? "Richie Hawtin- decks, efx, and a MC-303"??? Hmmm, uh......never. When will you ever see this? "Jeff Mills- decks, MC-505"??? hmmm, never? Uh yeah, I think so. So it comes down to this, if you own, plan to own, or actually like these stupid machines, you're obviously a very lost child. And feel happy to rip on me and try and back up the "groove approved" shit, cause I don't give a fucking shit about anyone who likes anything that's "groove approved". And for those who know, please teach others, cause if this is the future, count me out of it, and plan for techno/house/jungle/anything to take a seriouse downfall from a bunch of shitty ass "groove approved" made records siting in a record store for about 50 years.
Well, later and fuck anything "groove oriented" by roland.
Message 3/40 18-Feb-99 @ 07:00 PM - RE: Groove Approved
Roland really have lost the plot I'm afraid, I admit when the MC303 came out I bought one, I was under the illusion that it was an accurate 303 module, after all who better to make a clone than the company that made the real thing? BOYYEE was I wrong!
Instead what I had actually got for my £565 was a box of puny synth noises a few OK drums and 100 of the worst excuses for "Dance Music" patterns ever (supposedly created by top producers? YEAH whatever!) Anyway after about 3 months I sold it for £200.
After that I vowed NEVER to buy Roland gear again because in my opinion they wouldn't know what Techno was if it trampled all over their fucking heads! Having said that Yamaha who's gear I hated in the 80s have really come into their own; for example the A3000 which I have to say is THE fattest meanest funkiest cunt of a sampler EVER period. Also the Quasimidi 309 is quite a cool box for live stuff, my buddy got one just after I got my MC303 needles to say I was gutted when I heard how much better it was( I had to ring about 30 dealers to get the MC303 coz it had just come out and I bought it without hearing it SUCKER! I beleived the hype from the reviews and bought it mail order). I just wish that I had not sold my TB303, MC202, TR808, SH101, Pro One around 1992 when I was broke.
I'm quite happy with my current setup which is MB33, Pulse, TX81z, A3000, Korg Prophecy, Rebirth and a few weird analog drum modules.
So my advice is if you are thinking of buying a Groovebox, Dance module or anything with claims of being a "DJ remix complete solution in a box" think what you could buy instead. Its like HiFi, separates are much better, I would be more than happy to recommend alternatives for any begginers out there. PEACE, LOVE, TECHNO
Instead what I had actually got for my £565 was a box of puny synth noises a few OK drums and 100 of the worst excuses for "Dance Music" patterns ever (supposedly created by top producers? YEAH whatever!) Anyway after about 3 months I sold it for £200.
After that I vowed NEVER to buy Roland gear again because in my opinion they wouldn't know what Techno was if it trampled all over their fucking heads! Having said that Yamaha who's gear I hated in the 80s have really come into their own; for example the A3000 which I have to say is THE fattest meanest funkiest cunt of a sampler EVER period. Also the Quasimidi 309 is quite a cool box for live stuff, my buddy got one just after I got my MC303 needles to say I was gutted when I heard how much better it was( I had to ring about 30 dealers to get the MC303 coz it had just come out and I bought it without hearing it SUCKER! I beleived the hype from the reviews and bought it mail order). I just wish that I had not sold my TB303, MC202, TR808, SH101, Pro One around 1992 when I was broke.
I'm quite happy with my current setup which is MB33, Pulse, TX81z, A3000, Korg Prophecy, Rebirth and a few weird analog drum modules.
So my advice is if you are thinking of buying a Groovebox, Dance module or anything with claims of being a "DJ remix complete solution in a box" think what you could buy instead. Its like HiFi, separates are much better, I would be more than happy to recommend alternatives for any begginers out there. PEACE, LOVE, TECHNO
Message 4/40 18-Feb-99 @ 11:29 PM - RE: Groove Approved
Every sentence,every word...so true it's not funny. The Groove series is so full of shit and no one professional uses it..
Although Scooter is carrying the MC-505 on their latest tour and have it rackmounted to face the audience...that's what I call advertising with major product placement...
Although Scooter is carrying the MC-505 on their latest tour and have it rackmounted to face the audience...that's what I call advertising with major product placement...
Message 5/40 19-Feb-99 @ 08:56 AM - RE: Groove Approved
Stop People !!
Not all in the Groove Series is really shit ! The MC.303;The Groovesynth,The Groovekeyboard ok ! But take a look to the SP-808 Groovesampler ! This thing is pretty cool. you have a limit sample
by 17 mins per sample on Stereo and 44 khz. You have endless programmable effekts !!
You can stretch voice samples without losing the sound of the voice. You have an 4 track recorder with them you can record songs an edit them in many ways...
This thing has an virtual analog synth effekt wich sounds pretty cool. You have an intern ZIP Drive
an you can an external Board for using an external ZIP Drive for Backups. Then You have an Digital OUT in the External Board... . I think this Sampler is not really a part of the Groove Series.
This Sampler is a fuckin´bomb in my eyes. Perheaps i´m blind but i think this is a real good sampler.
Next: I think the MC-505 is an Good Synth. You have very much preset sounds wich you can make to really dope sounds... You can clear all the preset sound patterns for having mor space to save your own patterns. The filters are ok if you run the sounds thru it !!! And the built in effekts are also
not a bullshit the can very helpfull for makin´realy fat bassdrums. And by the way the drumkits of the 505 are perfekt you have such a bomb of drums ... cool !
I connected my 505 with my Kawai K5000s and if these both machines rockin if workin together.
With the macro control of the kawai plus the filter an the other knobs of the 505 you can really wicked tweakin the sounds boy this can i tell you.
Ok thats my opinion. I´m partitial with your opinion about the Groove Synthese of Roland but
it´s ever so in live : Nothing is a whole shit. Some things of the Roland series are ok.
It´s to easy to say i´ts all shit. Anyway
Peace Franky
Not all in the Groove Series is really shit ! The MC.303;The Groovesynth,The Groovekeyboard ok ! But take a look to the SP-808 Groovesampler ! This thing is pretty cool. you have a limit sample
by 17 mins per sample on Stereo and 44 khz. You have endless programmable effekts !!
You can stretch voice samples without losing the sound of the voice. You have an 4 track recorder with them you can record songs an edit them in many ways...
This thing has an virtual analog synth effekt wich sounds pretty cool. You have an intern ZIP Drive
an you can an external Board for using an external ZIP Drive for Backups. Then You have an Digital OUT in the External Board... . I think this Sampler is not really a part of the Groove Series.
This Sampler is a fuckin´bomb in my eyes. Perheaps i´m blind but i think this is a real good sampler.
Next: I think the MC-505 is an Good Synth. You have very much preset sounds wich you can make to really dope sounds... You can clear all the preset sound patterns for having mor space to save your own patterns. The filters are ok if you run the sounds thru it !!! And the built in effekts are also
not a bullshit the can very helpfull for makin´realy fat bassdrums. And by the way the drumkits of the 505 are perfekt you have such a bomb of drums ... cool !
I connected my 505 with my Kawai K5000s and if these both machines rockin if workin together.
With the macro control of the kawai plus the filter an the other knobs of the 505 you can really wicked tweakin the sounds boy this can i tell you.
Ok thats my opinion. I´m partitial with your opinion about the Groove Synthese of Roland but
it´s ever so in live : Nothing is a whole shit. Some things of the Roland series are ok.
It´s to easy to say i´ts all shit. Anyway
Peace Franky
Message 6/40 19-Feb-99 @ 10:21 AM - RE: Groove Approved
Ohh i forgot: You say no professional Gusy using these gear ??!
The Guys at SUBLIME RECORDS already using the SP-808 !!!
Franky
The Guys at SUBLIME RECORDS already using the SP-808 !!!
Franky
Message 7/40 20-Feb-99 @ 12:46 AM - RE: Groove Approved
The only sampler's or sampler I would ever use would be Emu or Akai. No others thank you. I would never touch anything roland has made anytime close to now. Roland is officially shit now. And I would never support such a "make money" type of buisness that they are now, no matter what they were making. If it wasn't for the new "groove approved" shit, it would save me from hearing a lot of shitty ass music. And those digital filters. Well if you wanna call them filters, sound like ass! They sound so cheezy digital that I can't stand the fuckers! Anyway, Roland now sucks, and I will never support there fake asses again.
Message 8/40 20-Feb-99 @ 04:53 AM - RE: Groove Approved
I use an Ensoniq sampler and I love it. Very user friendly. Roland? I don't know...I feel that the only thing that these 'Groove Approved' synths are good for is for sequencing drum loops. I dont like digital fiters at all. They sound alright for filtering samples and drum loops, but analog fiters are the way to go. I would probably buy a 'Groove Approved' box if I found one extremely cheap but no way would I pay full price.
Thats my 2 cents...
ReZo-99
Thats my 2 cents...
ReZo-99
Message 9/40 20-Feb-99 @ 01:43 PM - RE: Groove Approved
I think your opinions are not wrong. These of course really good gear you´re using. But what I wan´t
to say is: some of thi groove gear is not so bad as you tell it. Let me explain, the 505 was for me the entry of makin techno ! The years before i was only a DJ an i wanted only more extern 303
Sounds in my Set. I´ve got no knowledge ´bout makin music. I´ve only know the 303, the 909 ... .
So i´ve heard ´bout the MC 303 and i´ve thinkin these thing is a new good 303 clone ! I´ve wen´t to
an Roland dealer and asked him about the MC 303. This guy was an mutherfuckin´ asshole and he says the MC 505 would make some better and more realistic 303 Sounds than the MC 303 does.
And he played some fine sounds and I´m thinkin cool thats it wow. I´ve got no really the knowledge
what there are for other gear around and what they makes ... . I´ve bought it !
I´ts not so bad but i´m with you in the opinionabout the price ! Yeas this price is much to heavy.
OK the SP-808 is for me a good sampler i love it . Thats the way.
Since i´ve reading this board i´ve learned more about these other stuff... . In a few weeks i get my
Fr-777. Perheaps i will change then my current opinion and i will selling my MC-505.
I will see. So in this way i will givin respect and peace to ReZo, CyborgZero, LonneyFreaK, Pedicelli. You´re postings had helping my really much !!
Go on in these way !!!! PEACE Franky (-:
to say is: some of thi groove gear is not so bad as you tell it. Let me explain, the 505 was for me the entry of makin techno ! The years before i was only a DJ an i wanted only more extern 303
Sounds in my Set. I´ve got no knowledge ´bout makin music. I´ve only know the 303, the 909 ... .
So i´ve heard ´bout the MC 303 and i´ve thinkin these thing is a new good 303 clone ! I´ve wen´t to
an Roland dealer and asked him about the MC 303. This guy was an mutherfuckin´ asshole and he says the MC 505 would make some better and more realistic 303 Sounds than the MC 303 does.
And he played some fine sounds and I´m thinkin cool thats it wow. I´ve got no really the knowledge
what there are for other gear around and what they makes ... . I´ve bought it !
I´ts not so bad but i´m with you in the opinionabout the price ! Yeas this price is much to heavy.
OK the SP-808 is for me a good sampler i love it . Thats the way.
Since i´ve reading this board i´ve learned more about these other stuff... . In a few weeks i get my
Fr-777. Perheaps i will change then my current opinion and i will selling my MC-505.
I will see. So in this way i will givin respect and peace to ReZo, CyborgZero, LonneyFreaK, Pedicelli. You´re postings had helping my really much !!
Go on in these way !!!! PEACE Franky (-:
Message 10/40 20-Feb-99 @ 06:35 PM - RE: Groove Approved
Yo man, maybe if you understood a little more about making techno and about the quality of internals and such, you'd see how shit the whole Groove series was...it's just a bunch of samples which get modulated by shitty filters...
Now my Korg Prophecy on the other hand.....it's 100% digital, but I think everyone knows about it's filters and internals. Korg's MOSS whops ass and makes the fattest sounds on earth.....sounds and FEELS totally analog.
Now my Korg Prophecy on the other hand.....it's 100% digital, but I think everyone knows about it's filters and internals. Korg's MOSS whops ass and makes the fattest sounds on earth.....sounds and FEELS totally analog.
Message 11/40 21-Feb-99 @ 12:28 PM - RE: Groove Approved
yeah, i have being writting all sorts of techno music for years and years now, got a tb and all that stuff - and also an MC303!!!!, now i know there a lot of cheesey sounds in this box, but i think most people who slag this box off are not coming at it from the right angle - ok its not a tb! but nobody like the tb when it first came out, they said it was a stupid box which was too hard to program! sounds familiar? get back to your MC and stop trying to get tb303 sounds from it - think original - f**k it up! thats how acid started. over and out.
Message 12/40 21-Feb-99 @ 11:40 PM - RE: Groove Approved
I just read in Future Musician Magazine that it is noted in the manuel of ALL the groove boxes it says that all the sounds are copyrighted by Roland and CAN NOT be used in your own songs without written permission. Is this true? It said that you can not use these groove boxes live or whatever. Why would they do that when all the sounds in it are just samples of older Roland gear? Sure doesn't make sense. Besides, don't alot of artists use these live?
ReZo-99
ReZo-99
Message 13/40 22-Feb-99 @ 09:21 AM - RE: Groove Approved
I think the preset patterns patterns and the demo songs are copyrighted not the sounds. They could´nt do a copyright of an typical 303 sound because the doesen´t make them at first !
Message 15/40 22-Feb-99 @ 03:23 PM - RE: Groove Approved
Well, then, rolands lousy asses need to free up all that memory their shitty patterns take up..
Needless to say, quasimidi gear doesnt have those sort of empty sorry ass warnings...
BTW, on Popular records, the quasimidi 309 is all over it, as a matter of fact, a LOT of producers use the 309 but won't admit to it.. hell, in a mix, its very difficult to tell the 309 from a filtered 909.. the drums have a ton of balls for digital.. quasimidi and the Korg Prophecy renew my faith in DSP gear..
I played the a3000 sampler, I was pretty dissapointed in the filters...oh well, I wont be getting that anytime soon..
BTW, if you want a super fat sampler and can find one, get a studio 400.. its an mpc KILLER, with 32secs of 16khz sampling, analog filters, recordable controllers, etc..
or get any of the old sequential samplers, or EMU Emax I. Fat analog filters...
Roland needs to quit making those shitty filters and take a lesson from Korg and Quasimidi, and maybe Clavia...The developers at roland must be some sorry tone deaf bastards...
I guess when you make 200k usd a year, you start to not give a shit and are in it just for the money...
Engineers who love what they do will do better work for less money, ala Clavia, Quasimidi.. these guys eat synthesis for every meal..
Rob
Needless to say, quasimidi gear doesnt have those sort of empty sorry ass warnings...
BTW, on Popular records, the quasimidi 309 is all over it, as a matter of fact, a LOT of producers use the 309 but won't admit to it.. hell, in a mix, its very difficult to tell the 309 from a filtered 909.. the drums have a ton of balls for digital.. quasimidi and the Korg Prophecy renew my faith in DSP gear..
I played the a3000 sampler, I was pretty dissapointed in the filters...oh well, I wont be getting that anytime soon..
BTW, if you want a super fat sampler and can find one, get a studio 400.. its an mpc KILLER, with 32secs of 16khz sampling, analog filters, recordable controllers, etc..
or get any of the old sequential samplers, or EMU Emax I. Fat analog filters...
Roland needs to quit making those shitty filters and take a lesson from Korg and Quasimidi, and maybe Clavia...The developers at roland must be some sorry tone deaf bastards...
I guess when you make 200k usd a year, you start to not give a shit and are in it just for the money...
Engineers who love what they do will do better work for less money, ala Clavia, Quasimidi.. these guys eat synthesis for every meal..
Rob
Message 16/40 22-Feb-99 @ 06:58 PM - RE: Groove Approved
Yeah the 309 DOES kick ass, as does the prophecy to a lesser extent, but man are you wrong about the A3000, it has 18 types of filter including some that could not exsist on an analog synth, most of them can easily be coaxed into self oscillation and there are an immense variety of ways to use them. My buddy has got a Seqeuntial Prophet 2000 sampler which has the curtis filters in it (and that sampler is a legend among pro techno producers) but when he heard what I was getting outta my A3k he was convinced it had analog filters (and this guy knows his shit he used to build synths way back). If you need any more convincing check out A3k Central.
Also the FX are really good especially the DistWah and the BeatChange, the other thing to bear in mind with any sampler is that they are all digital anyway so the filters can make or break it. The other cool thing about the A3k is that you can sample at 44.1, 22, 11 or even 5khz! So you can get some really dirty sounding noizes from it especially if you use 11 or 5k with LoFi mode.
Also the FX are really good especially the DistWah and the BeatChange, the other thing to bear in mind with any sampler is that they are all digital anyway so the filters can make or break it. The other cool thing about the A3k is that you can sample at 44.1, 22, 11 or even 5khz! So you can get some really dirty sounding noizes from it especially if you use 11 or 5k with LoFi mode.
Message 17/40 23-Feb-99 @ 12:53 AM - RE: Groove Approved
The Korg Prophecy whops ass......boy do you ever feel the rumbles with that mother.......it's the most powerful monophonic synth on the face of the planet!
Message 18/40 23-Feb-99 @ 06:12 AM - RE: Groove Approved
Pedicilll, you've gotta get off of that prophecy high you're on! It's not the greatest thing, and it's definitly not the best monophonic synth on the planet. Chill on the thing, that's all you talk about. It's boring as hell, that is you're answer to every question, and whatever the subject may be, you always slip it in somehow. Give it a break, you're playing it out.
Message 19/40 24-Feb-99 @ 12:04 AM - RE: Groove Approved
Have you ever used the Prophecy? If so, have you ever made your own sounds with it? And I said that it was the most POWERFUL monosynth, not the best. From what I've read and heard, it competes very well with an SH-101, but I can't say much about that cause I've never used one.
And the reason why I mentioned it here was because it was mentioned in the previous message...
And the reason why I mentioned it here was because it was mentioned in the previous message...
Message 20/40 24-Feb-99 @ 12:43 AM - RE: Groove Approved
I dont know...Id like to battle your Prophecy with my 777. Its pure analoq so I bet the bass on it will make your Prophecy unplug, pack up and go home. But, I don't know for sure cause I've never used a prophecy, even though I hear that they are pretty dope.
Opinions...what do you think people, will the 777 blow away the Prophecy?
ReZo-99
Opinions...what do you think people, will the 777 blow away the Prophecy?
ReZo-99
Message 21/40 24-Feb-99 @ 12:48 AM - RE: Groove Approved
I dont know...Id like to battle your Prophecy with my 777. Its pure analoq so I bet the bass on it will make your Prophecy unplug, pack up and go home. But, I don't know for sure cause I've never used a prophecy, even though I hear that they are pretty dope.
Opinions...what do you think people, will the 777 blow away the Prophecy?
ReZo-99
Opinions...what do you think people, will the 777 blow away the Prophecy?
ReZo-99
Message 22/40 24-Feb-99 @ 01:02 AM - RE: Groove Approved
No way pedro,
The Korg would beat the 777 hands down and thats a fact! I don't know why everyone is of the impression that digital is dead and analog is king, now i LOVE analog synths, hell I've got enough of the bastards, but FM synthesis is capable of much heavier nastier sounds than analog, like rumbling sub basses and fierce metallic twangs which most analogs could never dream of producing. But it doesn't end there, analog is much better for organic, fluid, trippy and liquidescent sounds, thats why anyone who really knows their shit has both digital and analog. The prophecy can do FM, analog and much more, on my prophecy I've programmed a kick drum which makes the 909 kick sound like a ant farting by comparison. It may also surprise you to know that I have used a 777 and, while it is good, a minimoog it aint! I would say its closer to a korg monopoly or perhaps a moog prodigy. Also I would defy anyone to tell a well programmed prophecy from a real 303, just for your info Ive had about 35 tracks released on various labels around the world and I've been writing techno for 11 years.
The Korg would beat the 777 hands down and thats a fact! I don't know why everyone is of the impression that digital is dead and analog is king, now i LOVE analog synths, hell I've got enough of the bastards, but FM synthesis is capable of much heavier nastier sounds than analog, like rumbling sub basses and fierce metallic twangs which most analogs could never dream of producing. But it doesn't end there, analog is much better for organic, fluid, trippy and liquidescent sounds, thats why anyone who really knows their shit has both digital and analog. The prophecy can do FM, analog and much more, on my prophecy I've programmed a kick drum which makes the 909 kick sound like a ant farting by comparison. It may also surprise you to know that I have used a 777 and, while it is good, a minimoog it aint! I would say its closer to a korg monopoly or perhaps a moog prodigy. Also I would defy anyone to tell a well programmed prophecy from a real 303, just for your info Ive had about 35 tracks released on various labels around the world and I've been writing techno for 11 years.
Message 23/40 24-Feb-99 @ 05:31 AM - RE: Groove Approved
Hey! Hey! Hey! No need to jump in my shit...I was just asking ;-) I was just expressing how much I love the deep bass on my 777. Im going to buy another synth and I was just curious. I want something with pure power, no sissy synths. Ive heard all positive opinions about the Prophecy and I think Im going to check one out. Happy now? = )
Hey Pedicelli, do you have ICQ? Look me up 16324832.
ReZo-99
Hey Pedicelli, do you have ICQ? Look me up 16324832.
ReZo-99
Message 24/40 24-Feb-99 @ 06:03 AM - RE: Groove Approved
The TB will blow away all that shit. The tb can go so deep that you can't hear it, just feel it. The speakers just fart. They just wobble back and forth slowely, making a lot of wind. It's insane! So the TB wins hands down, no questions.
Message 26/40 24-Feb-99 @ 06:53 PM - RE: Groove Approved
TB deep bass? You must be mistaken, the TB is probably one of the best synths around but IT DEFINATELY DOES NOT DO DEEP BASS! If your really think so then your experience with synths must be somewhat limited, as anyone knows that even a humble SH101 can out sub a TB.
Ive owned 5 TBs over the past 10 years and I can tell you that a Prophecy would chew it up and spit it out, as would a waldorf pulse, a 101, a minimoog and numerous others.
If on the other hand your talking about trippy razor sharp acid then the TB is king, but only because its such an established sound. Do yourself a favour and get the Real world interfaces Devilfish mod done on your TB, then come back and tell me about your deep bass! It fucking kicks. Peace out ;-)
Ive owned 5 TBs over the past 10 years and I can tell you that a Prophecy would chew it up and spit it out, as would a waldorf pulse, a 101, a minimoog and numerous others.
If on the other hand your talking about trippy razor sharp acid then the TB is king, but only because its such an established sound. Do yourself a favour and get the Real world interfaces Devilfish mod done on your TB, then come back and tell me about your deep bass! It fucking kicks. Peace out ;-)
Message 27/40 24-Feb-99 @ 10:48 PM - RE: Groove Approved
Naw, the 777 IS FULLY capable of large low bass, thank you... AND, its also capable of tin can shredding liquid mercury acid..
The 909 kik is weak compared to some of the things that have graced my speakers since ive had it..
As far as compared to a minimoog, sure, the minimoogs FILTERS are capable of better bass, but the actual sound is just as low..
A PRODIGY? Jeezus, gimme a break...
Im working on an extra filter/VCA module ala cem3389 which will basically get you another complete synth within the 777.. There will be some amazing things occurring real soon...
Rob
The 909 kik is weak compared to some of the things that have graced my speakers since ive had it..
As far as compared to a minimoog, sure, the minimoogs FILTERS are capable of better bass, but the actual sound is just as low..
A PRODIGY? Jeezus, gimme a break...
Im working on an extra filter/VCA module ala cem3389 which will basically get you another complete synth within the 777.. There will be some amazing things occurring real soon...
Rob
Message 28/40 25-Feb-99 @ 01:42 AM - RE: Groove Approved
fuck that!!!! If you go inside and adjust the rezistor, fuck I forget what one it was.......but crank it all the way to the right, and the tb goes so fucking deep you can't hear it. I fucking swear, I couldn't even hear the fucker, just felt a rumble in my basement. Like a slow viberating. I don't know what kinda tb you used, but mine will break my mom's china within a few seconds. I could stop you're heart with this fucker. Maybe get it to an 8 on the ricter scale too!
Message 29/40 25-Feb-99 @ 06:12 PM - RE: Groove Approved
Curtis chips are ok, but at the expense of sounding like a geek, go for a transistor ladder design on your VCF, think about it, whats the common denominator of 2 of the worlds most desirable/popular synths? (TB303 & Minimoog) Thats right ladder filters! Also I think you may have judged the moog prodigy a little to harshly, its no disgrace for the 777 to be compared to one coz basically it kicks ass! Later.
Message 30/40 26-Feb-99 @ 12:10 AM - RE: Groove Approved
Yo, APROPHECYFAN, can you please send me that 909 patch you made!
Message 32/40 26-Mar-99 @ 09:38 AM - RE: Groove Approved
To all you people saying you never see any big artists using an MC-303, just take a look at whats next to the turntables in Paul Van Dyk's "For an Angel" video.
Message 33/40 26-Mar-99 @ 10:20 AM - RE: Groove Approved
Yes I know about that. It was an fuckin mistake.The Sudio where this vido was made is owned by the Roland Corp. An the sad if he use a MC 303 ore equal in the video the rent for the studio is free... What had you done in these situation ???
Message 34/40 04-Apr-99 @ 10:30 AM - RE: Groove Approved
I think the only professional groove approve gear that Roland had ever made these days are the JP 8000 and JP 8080. Un like the sampled based gear of the Groove box/keyboard stuff these two synths use DSP which brings a more upfront fatter simulerly analog sounds. I own the JP 8080 And I think its a great sounding synth. Notice I didnt say Analog emulator. Though they can do some good jobs at emulating but its definatly capable of sounding original. The SP 808 sounds like another top quality Instrument but I dont know. The JP 8000/JP 8080 like I said are the best groove approved gear from Roland so far.
The JP's got a more profesional way about them.
The JP's got a more profesional way about them.
Message 35/40 04-Apr-99 @ 03:04 PM - RE: Groove Approved
I may be mistaken, but I don't think that the JP-8000 is from the Groove series, it's completely different. And you're right...it's the only decent piece of gear they've produced in a while....everything else is a sampled-based piece of shit machine. But I don't think they came out with it just like that, I think it was to keep up with the competition. At the beginning of 1995, Clavia came out with their Nordlead specializing in analog synthesis, then at the end of the year Korg released the Prophecy, and Roland was the last one to release their "analog" synth in early 1997 with the JP-8000.
Message 36/40 05-Apr-99 @ 12:06 AM - RE: Groove Approved
Pedicelli is right. Look at those pussy Groove ads, they don't even show the JP8K in the ads. If they did I wouldn't have purchased it. Even though I use the Groovebox to generate MTC to my TB and TR stuff. But Roland actually did a good job with the new Jupiter. By the way does the JP-8080 have a fucked up way of scrolling through factory voices? I read that it has like 356 presets, but you have to dig to get at all of them.
Message 37/40 05-Apr-99 @ 01:58 AM - RE: Groove Approved
The Roland Groove site has the JP 8000/8080 on there. That is why I thought they were apart of the Groove approve plan. The way how you can scroll threw the presets on the JP 8080 is you push the buttons that says DEC or INC or you can push the number buttons to dial up a patch to start with. The JP 8000 has 128 patches and 64 performances. The JP 8080 has 512 patches and 256 perfomances. The Jp 8080 also has a smart media expansion feature that can save up to 8000 patches or 4000 made perfomances. As for the TB 303 the JP 8080 can do apretty good job especially if you add some distortion then your in acid heaven. And since its 2 part multi you can play it like as if you own two TB 303's. The only problem is that in split mode only the lower keys trigger the arpegiator but in dual you can use the two TB 303 sounds with the Arp. But there always together. You can in dual mode have one sounds ahd some filter sweeps and the other do nothing to create an illusion of owning two arpegiated 303's or have the two have a different filter effect two.
Later
Later
Message 38/40 05-Apr-99 @ 02:23 AM - RE: Groove Approved
Thanx Jason. I know, I have the thing. But I can't believe it's on the Groove page. Anyone want to buy a Jupiter? just kidding. That pisses me off. I'm so tired of that Groove shit. I'm gonna post it.
Message 39/40 05-Apr-99 @ 04:12 PM - RE: Groove Approved
You're right...the JP-8000 is on www.rolandgroove.com....don't know why, but it's there.....
Message 40/40 06-Apr-99 @ 11:17 AM - RE: Groove Approved
I paid less for my eg-101 groovekeyboard than I paid for my sequencer software.
Sure, the pre-programmed drump loops and whatnot sounds like shit, but they can easily be thrown out and replaced my stuff you make yourself..
If it cost 30% less, it'd be well worth it..
Sure, the pre-programmed drump loops and whatnot sounds like shit, but they can easily be thrown out and replaced my stuff you make yourself..
If it cost 30% less, it'd be well worth it..
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