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Original Message 1/47 24-Mar-99 @ 05:35 PM - Playing a Devilfish...

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I am new to this board, and judging from a lot of the posts on here, there isn't a lot of really good vibes here, but this is worth a shot. If you want to flame me, please waste your time somewhere else. If you can help, I would really appreciate it. Anyway, I have been discussing the Devilfish mods with Robin in Australia through the e-mail ever since I got my TB about a year and a half ago. I am going to be sending it to him for the mods (and to have my switches replaced) in the next couple of months (as soon as I finish saving up the bones for the mods). What I would like to know though is if anyone on here has played with one. i realize there are very few of them, but i would assume someone on here has some experience. I love the Plastikman sounds and the radical filtering that is possible with the Devilfish, but I would like to get some kind of firsthand account about what this instrument does. Feel free to post or e-mail me. Thanks for the help.

�hrisFader

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Message 2/47 25-Mar-99 @ 02:18 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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It can basically do anything. Richie only uses the devil fish in 4 songs he's ever produced. He usually just uses the normal 303's.

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Message 3/47 25-Mar-99 @ 02:37 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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I too am just in the final throws of raising the $$$$ to get the devilfish!!!! I just can't wait.

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Message 4/47 27-Mar-99 @ 03:16 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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To _
Rich used the Devilfish in FAR MORE THAN 4tracks!!!!!!!
try ALL OF MUSIK
ALL BUT MAYBE 2TRACKS IN ReCyled Plastick
And ALOT of SheetOne

As far as the "Normal" 303's he used back in the Fuse
Circuit Breaker days, with elongated acid lines
I'm not tryin to be a dick, but its just sad to see
his tracks hyped as if a "Normal 303" was doing that
All of his tracks are simple, just run through his Serge
or the Filter box that Fred Giannelli made for him.
Youd be surprised how a Fart would sound coming through
that shit! His studio is so pimp he doesnt have to try
all that hard to make the shit he does.
Ever hear "Sickness"or"Spastik"
808's and a Serge
Sickness one 808
Spastik one 808 doubled up, for the BassDrum intro
he used 606 808 and 909 BassDrums
And the 909Cymbals run through the Devilfish for
the detuned swirlie effects that go colliding into the 808 Claps
If you are into Plastikman check out"Oldskool" on Sheet One the vinyl edition
It is BY FAR HIS BEST TRACK!!!!!

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Message 5/47 28-Mar-99 @ 06:44 PM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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well i think hawtin is pretty overrated actually, monotony is a word that i would use to describe his stuff. later....

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Message 6/47 29-Mar-99 @ 06:29 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

NOTEVEN

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agreed...

sometimes interesting tho'

out...

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Message 7/47 29-Mar-99 @ 06:47 PM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

Squalcho

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Thanks to those of you that responded to the devilfish post. It does not seem like anybody has actually played one, which was what I was originally asking, but the information is helpful nonetheless =P. To NOTEVEN - I would really like to discuss Plastikman with you. i have been listening to his stuff since Sheet One, have read quite a few interviews with him, and really love what he does. Where did you get your information from as far as what he uses on his tracks. I would be very interested in finding out similar information on him and other artists. I have seen some gear lists, but nothing that I would say is too legit. E-mail me.

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Message 8/47 29-Mar-99 @ 10:42 PM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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to "noteven". Well, you sound like you know alot, but really you don't. I live 5 minuits from rich, see him every other day, I know exactly what is in the minus studio, exacly what he uses, and what is used on every track. He lives on 530 Walker rd. Windsor, Ont. His home phone is (519) 253-0**3. I'm not putting the middle 2 numbers, cause some fools will call him. His cell phone is (519) 563-4**8. He lives across of the tim hortons on the corner of wyandotte and walker. He lives in the grey old printing factory just behind the via rail station for windsor. He's driving a silver bmw, and sold his blue percidia to his bro, matt. I could keep going on and on to prove to you I know him well. But I won't. So to all the people on this page, they probably think you're a smart guy knowing what rich uses in his tracks, but I look at you like a fool. It's a good laugh when people on this page think they know all, but don't know dick. So next time you think of writing something about rich on here. Make sure you know what the fuck you're talking about BEFORE you post it. Because I will correct anything you fuck up on. And YES he only uses the devil on about 4 tracks. That's it. I know.

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Message 9/47 30-Mar-99 @ 01:43 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

NOTEVEN

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also try 519.253.0065
Also my name is Sam, i helped organize just about EVERY PLASTIKPRODUKTS PARTY EVER DONE!!!
And if this is Tim, the little shaved head hawtin wannabe, eat a dick. Anyone can get the address to
The Building, its on every old Plus8 record. It must be great to know that most of your knowledge is
about someone else. I mean you are either a) richs gay lover b)tim parker c)trying to get signed
d)lenny e) fred gianelli f)Brittaney g) that chink computer kid h) someone trying to get Spaz(richs cat) in the ass i)in love with math j) hopeless or k) all of the above.

now that i have posted my name please inform me of yours
ps Eric Haupt was going to FUCK rich up before he left for the navy
i mean that musically of course
till next time

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Message 10/47 31-Mar-99 @ 03:10 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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My name is richie. Have fun little kid.

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Message 11/47 31-Mar-99 @ 03:25 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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Just so you know, the number 253-0065.....has been changed. And is non listed. Good luck finding it. If you've done a lot with rich, what shoe's has he worn for the last 8-10 years? Are his glasses perscription or for looks? what sticker is on his front door? It's been there for a loooooooong time. What does brittany drive? And what colour is it? Where is richie's new house that he bought about 2-3 weeks ago? Where is the new m-nus head quarters going to be? What computer and program did he just by and for how much? What mixer did a certain company just give him? Who just gave him a laptop for the year 2,000 to test out? What colour are his 12's? How many pmc 50's does he have? What colour are they/it? Where does he order all his equipment from? What does Craig Stodolenak do for him? And where did he come from? Where is his home town? Who retro fitted his 909? How many 909's does he have? How many 303's does he have? What club is he part owner in? Where is it? Where was the last place he through a party? What colour are the rooms up stairs of the building? What does he use to hold his cd's? What's his favorite effects processor?
Well........if you can answer all the above questions, I will beleive the shit you say, and give you respect. If not, fuck off and learn you're shit. And quit bothering me. Because you're sounding like a fool. So, post you're answers so I can either laugh, or give some respect. Later Noteven. Good luck

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Message 12/47 31-Mar-99 @ 05:29 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

Give it a rest

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MOVING ON........blokes.

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Message 13/47 31-Mar-99 @ 09:59 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

NOTEVEN

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Everyone knows he only wears NuBalance...
And that he cheated on Brittany with the Sabotage hottie...
I'll answer more questions when you tell me your name.
Do you really know who i am?

SYST3M

ring any bells shit head?

out...

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Message 14/47 31-Mar-99 @ 08:04 PM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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HA!!!!!!! System!!!!! Everyone and there mom hates the system krew!!!! I fucking hate you guys! So is this gabe? Dean??? Whoever it is, you're all a bunch of stupid fuckers! I remember one of you though you're were cool at the consumed party, and you walked into the main room where rich was going to play in about an hour, and they kicked you out! Me and about 50 other people were laughing our asses off at you stupid fuckers! You're also the reason the detroit scene has gone to shit. I remember when the scene was better than anywhere. Then "system" popped up, big colourfull flyers, "ravey" parties, totally destroying the underground scene. And my dumb ass actually went to one. Remember the "greenvelvet, dbx, terrymullan, dj milton, dj deeon, acidpimp, michealgeiger". system 1. From what I can remember, that was the first time I payed $20 american for a fucking party. Ok, before, it was $10 max! Now, cause of you're ghetto ass company, it's minimum $20, at even local dj's partys. All cause of you fuckers. I remember the party under the bridge with rabbit in the moon.........it was an insaine $40!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cracked up and then slid under the fence, so my girl and I came for free.
Wait! You mett me before! Remember a time when you came to windsor, you went to the park st. building. I was there chillin with derek (may). And you walked up to introduce you're self. You said "Hi, my name is gabe. I throw all the system parties!!!!". Myself and derek looked at each other, and burst out laughing in you're face. You didn't think twice and left with a red face. Basically everone hates you and you're company. You guys might as well just stop throwing parties, cause we all hate you.

And what about that time there was the big "scam" you tried pulling? With you're mom! You remember that? Oh, someone jumped my mom, and took all the money!...............well, I know the truth for that and you're a little fucking dirty criminal. I hate you and next time I see you in the "d", I'll consider spitting on you.

So do us all a favor, and FUCK OFF!!!!!!

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Message 15/47 01-Apr-99 @ 01:11 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

pedicelli

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Hey, are you guys from Canada???? Cause if you are........damn, I never knew that such a scene ever existed in freakin' Windsor, if you're refering to the city...

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Message 16/47 01-Apr-99 @ 01:58 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

NOTEVEN

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ha ha ha
that was funny
i just thought that i would pawn off some of this shit talk on Dean
if anyone is crazy enough to talk smak about Rich, its dean
And yes Gabe is a DORK
Although i did like Dan Bells PA
Green velvet wasnt all that bad,he spun better at the Sardine Bar tho'
LOL i heard about that time that Gabes mommie supposedly got jumped
Aside from all of this stuff i probably know you.
I'm still wondering your name.
What were some of your favorite JAK parties?
OLantern, IS BAK(not jaks bak)
DWynn fucked shit up at JAK IS BAK
Jak 1+2 were kinda shitty tho'
too many peeps at 2
oh what about Hard
Harder
Hardest
Heaven and Hell
Spastik
THE LODGE!!!!!
i remember everyone so fucked out of their heads
Acid pimp runnin around tweakin his nipples!!!!!
Jen Melissa and Amy adn Brittany were SO fucked(some literally)
and Sheila...LOL

anyway...your name please...

out...

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Message 17/47 01-Apr-99 @ 02:20 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

jcu3

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WHAT THE FUCK!!! I thought this was Gear-Talk-303-Central?
Just fucken email each other. Damn. What's up with this Richie Hawtin drama bullshit? Why should the rest of the chatroom have to pay for this little girl crap, who knows who, who held Plastikmans hand last and shit? "I saw so and so's mom at a party with Darek May, with the Guccie Crew", whatever. WHO FUCKING CARES!!! Go program something, go burn a CD, do something. But most of all drop the Melrose Place-Plus 8 gossip.

BTW: Do you actually think Richie Hawtin actually gives a royal fuck about any of you terds? I'm positive he's in his studio tearing it up, making another album, so he can make a fuck load of more money off you kids......wise up!

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Message 18/47 01-Apr-99 @ 09:34 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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Well too, jcu3@........ Hmmmm, last time I posted a note, It had nothing to do with you. And it still didn't. If you don't like what were posting, than don't fucking read it! And rich hasn't been working in the studio lately. He's on other things. And he doesn't make money of this kid because: I get test pressings of all his shit, loooooong before all of you will hear it. And of course for free. And I don't think I need to wise up, you need to lay off the crack. And "plastikman" is done with. He's only doing minimal stuff now, and a little for the dance floor. Just so you know what's coming, I'll give you a little helper. The single "PK" may be coming out sometime soon? It's the regular 303/909 deal, with massive filtering going on. Very very grundgy, dark sounding. slowely building, yet cutting off also. One side has the 909 bass and high hat only, no claps, or anything, the other side is only a 303 "dark sounding", and lot's of filtering. No drums. side one is the "dance" side. Side two is the "ambient" side. After that, could be before for you? Is a album called "Orange". He sampled the track orange, and made 3 tracks out of it. It's more dance orientated. And he uses the eq's a lot in it. Droping the bass out randomly and shit. Write both of those down, cause they should be out pretty soon? within the year. There fucking amazing.

And too Pedicilli, windsor has almost no scene at all. It's all been talk about detroit's scene. Windsor had a scene about 3-5 year's ago. When rich was always doin shit around here. But now it's basically nothing.

Anyway, back to dean now. I didn't quite understand if this was dean or not? Anyway, I'm Ian. Do you now the old raver girls, Liz, and Shannon? The two were always in detroit a while back. They used to be candy ravers, but aren't anymore. This "was" the crew: Remember Stacy & Derek Cautiya & Cliff, Gumby, Liz and Shannon, Albert, Rob (lenarduzzi)..........bla bla......... If you can remember that whole crew, I was that shannon girls boy friend. She was the asian/white girl who looked 20 something when she was 12. Well, that's the crew I was always with. But derek and stacy moved to japan, cliff and cautia broke up, me and shannon broke up, rob's off doing his own thing, Liz is into hard core now, shannon's a wanna be hip hop girl/slut. Albert is still at hard dj'ing. Well anyway, tell me if you remember that crew! I'll post back on thursday afternoon. And are you dean? LaTer!

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Message 19/47 01-Apr-99 @ 05:22 PM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

jcu3

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What ever, man. Don't even think about talking down to me.... (sigh) ............Back to the three-oh-three...

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Message 20/47 01-Apr-99 @ 07:38 PM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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I'll talk down on you when you talk down on me. It works both way's. Lay off of my messages, and I'll lay off on hacking on you. Sound good? Sound's good to me! LaTer, jcu3.

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Message 21/47 02-Apr-99 @ 05:50 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

jcu3

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U-BET.

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Message 22/47 02-Apr-99 @ 05:57 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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Yo, are we talking about the same Windsor?? You know, Windsor, in the middle of nowhere, near the Great Lakes??? That's damn dope!! Hup, two, three, four...TO THE BEAT NOW!!!!

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Message 23/47 03-Apr-99 @ 02:23 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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yeah, that's the windsor. Windsor, Ontario. Lake erie and shit. That's the windsor.

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Message 24/47 06-Apr-99 @ 06:03 PM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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hello friendly chat room.
My name is SAM FOTIAS. this URL has been brought to my attention because i was told that i was enetering things on here about richard hawtin. For all of you that are wondering what the hell is going on I am the person who ACTUALLY used to work for richie. I have no problem giving you my last name. You can also get ahold of me at Burst L.L.C. in Detroit, I now work for my brothers sound company I am sure you are all familiar with the name. I am very upset that someone has taken it upon themselves to reveal things that were shared amongst friends over time...whoever is posing to be me or dean from system has alot to learn about being a friend. Because of the nature of the information givin on this page by the imposter it is obvious that it is someone that was very close with all of us, and now for some reason ytou choose to cloak yourself behind other identities to slander our names and reputations.I am very sorry to waste space on this awesome page for this sophmoric drama, but i could not just stand by and let this shit perpetuate. I spent many years working my ass of to get where i am, and to think someone can just use my name to get some digs in is ludicrous. I emplore everyone who reads this to give no validity whatsoever to whoever this child is who has what seems like a personal vendetta against anyone who is trying to perpetuate the scene we all are a part of. anyone who has any questions now has the means within this message to contact me.
regards

Sam Fotias
Burst L.L.C.
Detroit

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Message 25/47 06-Apr-99 @ 08:26 PM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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Thank you all, this was vastly entertaining, as well as nostalgic.

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Message 26/47 06-Apr-99 @ 09:36 PM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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interesting - i hope this isn't a reflection of the scene in detroit - i just moved here - help!!!

anybody want to shed some light on the scene here?

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Message 27/47 06-Apr-99 @ 09:44 PM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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the scene in detroit is going through a time of flux right now

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Message 28/47 06-Apr-99 @ 09:59 PM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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what kind of flux - i hate to ask details, but i want to know what's up - new home. who's this?

can you shed some light on the subject...?

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Message 29/47 07-Apr-99 @ 06:04 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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this is what happens when you mix large amounts of lsd with beverly hills 90210,

except the 90210 crew has much more integrity

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Message 30/47 07-Apr-99 @ 06:16 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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it all comes down to miserable untalented people with no real life of their own,
venting their jealousy, insecurity, and past regrets by shitting on people they once
foolishly put on a false pedastool. no one should give a fuck about anyone else's success except their own. a talented artist can make a clever track with a boss dr rhythm and a midiverb.
if you get it, you get it. if you don't, don't put the blame on anything else but your own insecurity.
if you don't know...... well now you know

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Message 31/47 07-Apr-99 @ 07:05 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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techno is DEAD in detroit.
techno has evolved intoa complex mathematical system of time and frequency intellectually superior to all other current forms of music, thus being far over the heads of the ignorant masses.
an average 17 year old high school student growing up on MTV and videogames walls into a 'rave', who is he/she most likely to dance to?

a) jay-z

b) fatboy slim

c) adam beyer

on the last leg of the guitar rock era, 'raves' have become the mainstream gathering place for american youth (age 16-24). most have no exposure to electronic music and are initiated in for purely social reasons. dancing is done for reasons of vanity, courting, or pharmacologically induced siezures. to get people with no true interest in music whatsoever to keep coming back, the absolute most accessable predigested music must be promoted. the more attendees, the higher the expectations of the promoters, the more insurance they need to make their next event a financial success.

back in the day things were far from perfect, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

in the near future, a new group of kids will hate all that is mainstream, as we all once did.
human nature is evolution's fuel, the direction is cyclical, and the dead shall rise.

D

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Message 32/47 07-Apr-99 @ 09:01 PM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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great speech D! did you proofread that a few times before you posted - poser.

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Message 33/47 07-Apr-99 @ 11:40 PM - yo NOTEVEN

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yo NOTEVEN!!!

what the hells up yo ass - you sound like a punk whos scared to death of his own dorkiness...

grow up little man.

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Message 34/47 08-Apr-99 @ 02:37 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

NOTEVEN

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WOW
this last comment really hurts, please stop the abuse...

yo, what the hell...yo?

is that you Flava Flav?

dorkiness? Thats pretty rough there kido.

I must now retreat to my daily yogurt consumption, of Dannon Blueberry and Mixed Berries mmmmmmm.....

How ya doin Sammie?

Sorry guys, I.m in a too good of a mood today

This is probably why:

http://quote.yahoo.com/q?s=DCLK&d=3m

out...

oh yeah this split on Mon.

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Message 35/47 08-Apr-99 @ 04:04 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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tosh is a pillowbiter

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Message 36/47 08-Apr-99 @ 06:23 PM - to NOTEVEN

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yo yo,

what the hell is your deal man? you are commenting from the high horse and ripping on everyone. obviously you were around back then - are we all to assume you were perfect?

check yoself b4 you wreck yoself

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Message 37/47 08-Apr-99 @ 07:06 PM - to not even

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it seems as though someone has an intense identity crisis and is harbouring feelings of jealousy and regret..to bad they had to choose this page to get it out on

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Message 38/47 09-Apr-99 @ 08:05 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

NOTEVEN

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yo yo?
the toy?
when did I suggest i was perfect?

wuzup to da real niggaz in da hayouse... boyee<--------you probably understand this more

I am sorry that i dont speak jive, or Wigger (or would that be Wig, Wiggish, Wiggerian?)

outz homeez peace to all my g's and dogs and hos and fly honey and bitches and
of course fellow Wiggers

Please dont quote ICE CUBE, he IS black and i'm sure you are insulting him by repeating is words.

For realz do' ?

out...

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Message 39/47 09-Apr-99 @ 09:49 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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Someone please put this message to an end. Talk about gear and all that good stuff! No need for stupidity, and all the verbal fighting. Everyone chill out, make tracks, and enjoy you're gear.

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Message 40/47 09-Apr-99 @ 02:41 PM - to NOTEVEN

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hey man,

can't we all just get along?

this is actually amusing, anyone who doesn't like it should get another room.

this ones taken!!!! he he he

so what is your deal anyway - producer/dj? all the gear head talk tells me your into somethin....

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Message 41/47 10-Apr-99 @ 01:46 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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It's ok to argue, but when people start using other peoples names, it gets a little too much. Someone left there email blank, but used my name and city and I think I know who it was. They live near me, and this isn't the first time they've said something like this. But it's embarasing, someone talking stupidity under you're name makes you look bad. And there's not much you can do about it. So cut the shit talk, let's help each other out, and use this chat room for what it's meant for! I think this is a good idea! Thanks for reading. Enjoy

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Message 42/47 17-Apr-99 @ 10:24 PM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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to not even and his gay lover/ YOU DON'T KNOW NANN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Message 43/47 18-Apr-99 @ 10:22 PM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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Hey I was reading all this shit about Richie Hawtin
and who funking cares. He makes good music.
System can suck a fat dick. Your destroying the scene
in Detroit.

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Message 44/47 19-Apr-99 @ 01:18 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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BELIEVE IN SUPREME BANANA VISION

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Message 45/47 19-Apr-99 @ 01:26 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

Azure

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What are you crazy or something?

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Message 46/47 19-Apr-99 @ 02:55 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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I like what i have read about the devilfish too. I remember reading about it in some dj mag. I wan't one too. Can somebody provide me with mas informaciones pro favor. Can anyone get there hands on some blue l.e.d's? The only place I've seen them is on intimidation's "Blue" mixer. Which I don't have by the way...Maybe I should get one Strip the l.e.d's and pop them in the box? Filters Happy?

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Message 47/47 19-Apr-99 @ 07:43 AM - RE: Playing a Devilfish...

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I have bags of blue "l.e.d's" email me and we can work something out. I use them in 1200's. They look really good. As for the devil.........Robin Whittle.

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