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Original Message 1/29 03-May-99 @ 11:51 PM - My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

jcu3

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My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!! that is compared to my Korg ER-1. I can't say enough about this kick ass box. The kick actually is as good or better than the Roland. It's quiter, cheaper, smaller, better looking(not as good as me of course), easier to program...fuck! what else can I say? It's fucking awesome. My Alesis Monitor One's just sit there and wig out. I love the output. It's so fucking hot, hot,hot. Not like some of the boxes I've owned in the past like the MC-303 and the Yamaha CS1x.....really, quite and noisy. The ER-1's output is really strong. 909 emulation is right up there. 808 is pretty ok. But the as far as the Korg EA-1 goes: huge piece of crap. It is really awful. Sad presets, plasticy voices, fucked up interface. You can't scroll through voices and then start programming. You have to go into a factory pattern and modify the voices and then write. Pretty gay... It does have some Prophecy sounds that are nice. Other than, I'd say save your hard earned dough. I took that EA-1 back the first week. As far as my TR-909 goes...........goodbye! trading time boys.............

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Message 2/29 04-May-99 @ 12:25 AM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

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Do you know how the ER-1 compares to the Quasimidi Rave-O-Lution?

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Message 3/29 04-May-99 @ 01:28 AM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

jcu3

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Actually, I do. The 309 is cool because it has the individual outs. Something I will miss on my 909. The Bass synth is horrible. It sounds like a $29 SoundBlaster soundcard with knobs on it. I have no idea how they can call it Physical Modelling. The drum section section is descent. I think it's one of the coolist looking things. I hate the name though "Rav-o-lution" . It sounds like something that you would get for free if you saved enough Koolaid packets. Although, I really like that Quasimidi is from germany. Most everything out of Germany is wicked. But the worst thing about it is the price. They want a million dollars for it. It's way, way over priced. Especially with the silly synth section. And then all those add on modules.... So, I'd say not, more than yes.

"Though that's my opinion, though I could be wrong.."

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Message 4/29 04-May-99 @ 03:50 AM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

pedicelli

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Hmmm...very true. The 309 was the first real piece of electronic equipment I had ever tried out...ironic that I'm now considering to buy it. And you're right about the bassline synth.....shit as all hell.

The individual outs won't be of any use to me because I don't have a mixer...but I'll be needing one very shortly considering I only have one input on my soundcard and my stereo pre-amp is limited to one channel......

Do you recommend any good mixers to start off with (nothing too fany, just enough channels for a few pieces of equipment and for individual channels for drums...)

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Message 5/29 04-May-99 @ 04:41 AM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

jcu3

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That's easy. Mackie. Try the 1202VLZ or the 1402VLZ. I had the 1202 first, then I needed a little more channels and sold the little guy and bought the 1402. I started off with a Phonic. Then this little Spirit purple plastic piece of shit. That was a joke. I took it back within the hour. It was noisy as all hell. Then a Behringer. That, didn't work out. It's too bad because i love Behringer. So I've been really happy with my purchase. I usually sell or trade the gear that I don't like or that I feel isn't a good match for me. And i've never considered getting rid of it. Maybe one day when I have alot of cash laying around I'll buy the 1604. But for now I wouldn't need it since I don't have alot of gear. Plus sub groups can get pretty harry in a live set. (feature on the 1604). But i'd recommend the Mackie or a Behringer.
Honestly, i'd get a 1202. Gier Jenson from Biosphere uses it. He produces some of the best intelligent atmospheric ambient on the planet. It's all knobs on the levels though, instead of sliders. It's all in one's preferance. This has been my experiance with micro mixers. I'm sure that someone out there with a huge desk with 48 channels will be reading this and shit and will think I'm a little pussy for my gear. But that's ok. I was addressing Pedicelli's question, anyhow. (have I become paranoid or what now?, god damn)

It's gotten so bad that I'm afraid to submit my email address anymore. I think that someone is gonna send a jpeg to my email box with a dead cat on it. Just because they have a different opinion on gear..... Sorry, but I live in Denver. We are all a little paranoid these days....mmmmgh

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Message 6/29 04-May-99 @ 03:59 PM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

pedicelli

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Well, that whole message was greek to me except for the word Mackie which I know as being a top of the line brand of mixer..

If I get a dedicated drum machine, I'll need two channels (one for the drum and one for my Prophecy), and maybe a few other channels for dedicated inputs from the drum machine, therefore removing the main one I guess...

What specific make do you recommend and how much would it cost?

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Message 7/29 04-May-99 @ 04:19 PM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

jcu3

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Pedicelli, buy this one. It's bullet proof!!!

www.mackie.com/Products/VLZPRO/1202VLZPRO.asp

www.musiciansfriend.com has it for $379.

Also, try WWW.americanmusicsupply.com
they are the only company now that I know of, that will do credit card or debit card payments. So you can make like 3 or 5 payments on gear. Musicians Friend used to, but they are now a bunch of Nazi's and discontinued that shit. So I hope this helps. I better get back to work... oops I almost forgot my little disclamer for the flamers.

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Message 8/29 04-May-99 @ 04:19 PM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

jcu3

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Message 9/29 04-May-99 @ 10:38 PM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

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I have to step in and talk some shit about Mackie. I bought the 1202VLZ when I first put my studio together. That was 1996. Now it has 2 bum channels, receives radio reception everywhere I have lived, and just generally is a noisy mixer. I bought it brand new and it has been terrible. I cannot recommend this. Wish there was a good, inexpensive mixer. The Alesis is wack too....

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Message 10/29 04-May-99 @ 11:53 PM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

pedicelli

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Hmmm...that Mackie 1202 VLZ Pro looks pretty good...I just checked it out at that link, but the comments from the last message are turning me away.....

And get this...I e-mailed my music store yesterday, got a reply this morning:

-Quasimidi Rave-O-Lution 309 ($469.95 CAN)
-Korg Electribe ER-1 (659.45 CAN)

When I first tried out the 309 (almost two years ago) it was going for like $1,100!!!!

I'm freaking out and can't wait to sell my MIDI controller!!

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Message 11/29 05-May-99 @ 12:16 AM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

planetalgon

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Hi. I've got the 309 and never really did much with the bass synth section because I always use the Virus or Nord2. Then one day I patched the 309 bass into a Big Muff II and then to my Waldorf 4-Pole and woooaaahh!! When you're distorting the hell out of your synths, it almost doesn't matter what the basic waveform sounds like. The sequencer is great too and having a german techno machine that you can carry with you to play on a streetcorner is hip. I use the Mackie 3204 witch has like 40 inputs and fits in a rack no bigger than the 309 does. It's got some great extra features for patching in analog filters and is cool for complicated routing.
As for drum machine sounds, my best sounds come from building my own loops with my Em-u sampler, Virus filters, Pedals, and the Global Rythm Groups 808/909 disk for the low end basics. Usually I sample, Sequence the loop through a whole mess of stuff, resample it, then filter and EQ the hell out of that, Chop that sample up into useful bits, Then sequence it again until I get something that is worth sampling. I end up getting sounds that are way more personal than just some Boom-ck-ts-ck thing off of my drum machines alone. Listen to what Leftfield does with their drum tracks and you'll get the idea. FILTER IT!

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Message 12/29 05-May-99 @ 01:30 AM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

jcu3

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Chris Fader is correct about that first Mackie...it was wack . But the 1202VLZ and now the 1202VLZ Pro is the shit. It's just fine. It's quite and tight By now Pedecilli, you should of figured out how anal I am. I wouldn't have some noisy little mixer and shit. It's really nice. Go find out for yourself.

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Message 13/29 05-May-99 @ 07:53 AM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

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My advice on getting a mixer:
If your not sure that you are happy with your studio, and you are thinking of getting more gear, don't get something too small, allow for expansion.
I use a promix by yamaha, and although i kinda like it, I will probably get something different when the $ are there, cause I don't really like how it is all pages ( kind of like the prophecy).
I had a friend who used a Makie and I thought it was a good little mixer. He had the 1202, but regretted he didn't get something with more channels.

As jcu3 said, "just my opinion"

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Message 14/29 05-May-99 @ 07:53 AM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

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Message 15/29 05-May-99 @ 07:54 AM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

skot_e

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woops! I thought I should put my name up. Pressing stop didn't help...

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Message 16/29 05-May-99 @ 12:55 PM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

Richie

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Just to chuck a wild provocative and nay, insulting statement in here..

The 909 WILL sound shite if you can't eq or use FX effectively..

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Message 17/29 06-May-99 @ 03:47 AM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

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I think you should sell it to me...I have always been happy with 'em. I promise to eq it real good and apply the right type and amount of effects to the signal. I will remember to give it "Big Hugs" every day and sing to it if it gets lonely...I promise not to buy it for $500 dollars and then sell it for $1000(like I did my last one).

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Message 18/29 06-May-99 @ 04:05 AM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

jcu3

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Some dude in Florida wants to trade me a Novation Nova for it. If it falls through I will contact you. Thanks -send me your email someday.

Disclamer:....you know the drill...

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Message 19/29 06-May-99 @ 04:58 PM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

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you guys should try out some allen&heath mixers. They sound really good.

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Message 20/29 06-May-99 @ 06:29 PM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

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your tr909 is shite

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Message 21/29 08-May-99 @ 12:31 AM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

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looks like we are back to the same old routine of getting flamed by mr no-name.....

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Message 22/29 08-May-99 @ 01:15 AM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

jcu3

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I can see that. But you should of atleast left yours if you gonna comment on people not leaving "their" names...hehehe

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Message 23/29 10-May-99 @ 06:31 AM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

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Sorry, that was just my {twitch} other personality replying {twitch, twitch} to myself again.

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Message 24/29 10-May-99 @ 06:33 AM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

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Sorry, that was just my {twitch} other personality replying {twitch, twitch} to myself again.

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Message 25/29 10-May-99 @ 07:20 AM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

jcu3

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:-) that's 2 funny..bro (twitch)

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Message 26/29 10-May-99 @ 05:44 PM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

phun phactoriea

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YO YO YO!

I can't get a bottom end on my 909! I've tried compressing it noise gate, effects every thing on an Allen & Heath board. I'm dieing over here. When I do get it loud with out distortion all of the other faders are way down on the mixing desk. I've been told to gate the shit out of the kick and then find the kick in the mix,but when I go down to tape, the kick is soft and sometimes buried in the mix. If anyone listens to any x-tracks or drum codes esp any adam beyer, cari lekenbusch mixes thats the kick I'm trying to get!

thanks

PHUNK

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Message 27/29 10-May-99 @ 07:52 PM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

jcu3

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I know man, same here. That shit boggles me too. Your 909 is probably having a bad day. On occasion my 303 kind of turns into a chick and is moody as fuck, I can't get any good sounds out of em. Not too sure what to say about the gating thing. Try some filtering with no resonation and a little eq, and with a little decay on some reverb with a fast attack. Soemtimes shit like that works, soemtimes it doesn't. Experiment and have fun most importantly. Just be a little mad scientist and tweak-tweak-tweak, and tweak some more. But just keep in mind that those boxes can turn into little bitches. So Keep at it.

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Message 28/29 10-May-99 @ 09:13 PM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

PHUN PHACTORIA

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I don't think it's the reverb, 'cause the high-end I feel takes away the from the punch. I love a nice reverb on the 303, it turns the piece into a sexy-FOX. I'll find the kick, it's just sitting in the lab concockting different variations of out board gear till I find it

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Message 29/29 11-May-99 @ 12:17 AM - RE: My TR-909 is a piece of crap!!!!!

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When programming low end sounds, I use a spectrum analyzer to see where the sound is in frequency and how it moves over time. This method is VERY effective. Your instruments are sounding awful sometimes. I don't think its the way they actually sound from day to day but the way you feel from day to day. So concious I am of this effect that I can tell when I wake up if I should stay out of the studio. But you see, the analyzer doesn't lie. Even if it sounds like shit, you know what it should look like. You can put someone elses mix into the analyzer and observe what you want your stuff to sound like and just tweek away with eyes and ears. This way of working has tought me alot about getting the low end right, compressing, isolating sounds to specific frequencies, layering and and the list goes on. If you do get one, make sure you get one with LOTS of bands. I've got 31 stereo. Good luck.

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