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Original Message 1/15 23-Apr-01 @ 03:40 PM - New track

Defector Z

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Hey - just uploaded a new track - Ballast. I filed it under drum and bass, but I'm not sure it fits. I was aiming at a dnb sound. The lofi hides alot of the reverb, and going mono destroyed many of the stereo type effects. Hope you enjoy. Lemme know what you think

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Message 2/15 23-Apr-01 @ 04:10 PM - RE:

Maarten

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I like the sound in the intro... snares kicking in, seem a bit loud over my *PC* speakers- take with grain of salt then.... DnB beat building up, damn- like the synth round 1:40... fancy the short repetitive breaks in the drums (duh- dnb

... what did you use for that asianish sound coming in at 3:23?
Lots of changes DefZ, which keeps my attention whithout having to FFWD every 10 secs.
Great track man.

-M-

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Message 3/15 23-Apr-01 @ 04:59 PM - RE:

Defector Z

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Maarten - thanks for listening. The intro is a patch from the k2000. Fattened alittle with a sweep type delay, but most of the delay is actually lost. The asian type sound is from my XT. Lovely. :-) Lemme get an MP3 on my site - there's a lot of stuff that happens that is simply lost in the lo-fi. Check out http://www.defectorz.com later today and there should be a better quality MP3 is anyone's interested.

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Message 4/15 23-Apr-01 @ 06:36 PM - RE:

Milan

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Hi! I�m just listnenig to the track from your site, and it does sound indefinitely better than the lo-fi version.
Very nice work mate, although its really too slow to call it proper dnb. I would call this ambient breaks, if there is such a category

None the less, very nice work. As Maarten pointed out there is really a lot happening to keep the interest going throughout the track.
Good use of reverb, the drum sounds especialy have a nice acoustic space. I also like the trancy build-up around 2.30, really makes the track lift you up

If you want to do "proper" dnb, you�d have to speed it up considerably, but then you�d probably have to lose a lot of the musicality on display here, which would be a pitty!

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Message 5/15 23-Apr-01 @ 09:21 PM - RE:

Defector Z

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Milan - thanks for your thoughts. Kinda mad I missed the mark, but hey - first time around, can't complain. The lo-fi masks alot of the hi-hats that have subtle tonal variations. The real version is even better. :-) I like the track though - definitely one of my better efforts. I actually multi-tracked this one - something I've not done before. For all the tracks up to this, I've always recorded a stereo track right off the mixer. You mention the space in the drums, and that was something that I was able to do alot better thru the use of plugins. Same as many of the other things. There are still a few changes I wanna make though - maybe tonight and I'll post a new version tomorrow.

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Message 6/15 24-Apr-01 @ 03:47 AM - RE:

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nice job, that ending is just fuckin sweet!

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Message 7/15 25-Apr-01 @ 02:45 PM - RE:

Defector Z

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Glad you liked the end!! Hopefully, it wasn't a sigh of relief... ;-)

Anyone else have a listen and want to offer thoughts?

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Message 8/15 25-Apr-01 @ 08:35 PM - RE:

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pretty cool! drums seem way loud. I can barely hear other stuff but its pretty damn neat! you get those drums from LedZeppelin?

and about the DnB thing...DZ has a way of manipulating genres.

if it puts you in a trance its trance. If its got drums and bass its drum n bass

yeah..youd have to speed that one up to truly be DnB

but then again Sitar called my stuff jungle, too, and only 1 out of 7 tracks are anywhere near such

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Message 9/15 26-Apr-01 @ 10:10 PM - RE:

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Yup - John Bonham provided half of the drums. The other layer comes from a Sarah McLaughlin track. TRUE!! Yeah - the lofi version pushes the drums forward and the rest back a bit. I'll try a mono version and see what happens.

Manipulating genres, eh? I'll take that as a compliment. :-)

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Message 10/15 01-May-01 @ 04:39 PM - RE:

Defector Z

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Only 4 people listened? Come-on!!!

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Message 11/15 01-May-01 @ 11:06 PM - RE:

seenull

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Nice! I like the drums a lot. I'd have to say the filter sweeps at 1:35 are a bit too extreme, and that the pad that comes in at 2:00 is rather loud. Then again, I was listening on my tiny speakers at work, which might be the problem. It definitely stays interesting through the entire track--highly appreciated.

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Message 12/15 01-May-01 @ 11:15 PM - RE:

Rhea

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Yup. Very nice indeed. Keep it up.

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Message 13/15 02-May-01 @ 12:30 AM - RE:

damballah

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I listened. I'm practicing keeping my big fucking yap shut.

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Message 14/15 03-May-01 @ 08:57 PM - RE:

sitar

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About time you got another track going. You think you can take a break after you finish a cd? :P

Like the drums. Cool to hear them start out sounding like We Will We Will Rock You is sure to follow. Then they take up some breaks. And the Koto ending. Nice.

I thought of it too late and of course now it's way too late, but when that DTer of the Year vote thread was going on, I should've cast my vote for you because you finished your 1st cd (of many I hope) last year.

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Message 15/15 04-May-01 @ 01:52 PM - RE:

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Sitar - hey, thanks for the kind words - my cd went pretty unnoticed. :-) That's fine, as proud of it as I am, the new stuff is better. IMO. And hey - I've got LOTS of stuff since the cd - Ballast, Matilda's Engagement Party, and Inside - all new since the cd. Not bad for 4 months, right? Actually, I'm in kind of a rut for the last couple of weeks. I've taken a little break from it.

Anyhow - thanks all for listening. I'm not happy with the lo-fi mono version as the drums are WAY too loud, but if you can stomach it, grab the MP3 from my site and take a listen. I'm actually pretty happy with that version...

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