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Original Message 1/19             30-May-01  @  12:29 AM   -   EOS 4.6 - shit update !

Laurent.ash

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Hey freaks !

Recently Emu has posted the new EOS 4.6 system for E4 ultras with or without RFX cards.
Curious to see what's going on with this new update, i try to update my E6400 Ultra yesterday.
I updates first the flash with Flashprep, and then reboot to update EOS 4.10 with the new EOS 4.6
everything was working well, until i reboot the sampler to launch the new OS...
I see only the EMU logo, and nothing happened... no OS, no menus ASO.
(I must precise that i don't have the RFX card, but would like to get the new import ASR disk attached with EOS 4.6)
I redo the whole operation, reboot the sampler and the same thing happend a second time.
I try to load the Mac update (because i got a Mac too) and the same thing happened !
Does anyone having an Ultra without RFX obtain the same results ???
So i had to go back to EOS 4.10...
What's this shit from Emu ??? They precise of course that the system is working on RFX models or non RFX.
sorry, but shit update guys !

Dr. Funkenstein.



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Message 2/19             30-May-01  @  01:23 AM   -   RE: EOS 4.6 - shit update !

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Heheheh, lots about this on the E-mu mailing list. This seems to be the best answer:

Don't pay attention to the shrinkwrap warning, make your floppies with Diskcopy then

1. Power up your E-mu with the flashprep disk inserted;
2. When prompted something like "update flash?" press Enter;
3. When prompted "save flash to floppy?" turn off the power;
4. Insert the EOS 4.6 disk and power up;
5. After seeing the message "OS found on the disk, load the OS?" press
Enter;
6. Wait until E-mu finishes loading and prompts "valid OS has been loaded,
burn to flash?" then press Enter;
7. Initialize EEPROM and recalibrate.

Alternately, join the list here: http://www.musaic.net/emulator/list/

Hope this helps, haven't been able to try it myself yet.



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Message 3/19             02-Jun-01  @  05:14 AM   -   RE: EOS 4.6 - shit update !

Laurent.ash

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Thanks !
don't know if it will help me... but i'm gonna try tomorow.



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Message 4/19             04-Jun-01  @  08:19 PM   -   RE: EOS 4.6 - shit update !

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how fucking encouraging! funny..for a company that makes such great products they sure can be shit on customer service



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Message 5/19             05-Jun-01  @  06:13 PM   -   RE: EOS 4.6 - shit update !

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well thats probably cos they were absorbed into Creative company. Theyve probably got 'Team Leaders' and stuff now - ha ha hah

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Message 6/19             06-Jun-01  @  10:02 PM   -   RE: EOS 4.6 - shit update !

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judging by the documentation over a emu the update adds pretty much nothing for those without the rfx anyway.

Nay mind, emu are still doing it imo, just a shame they have to do what they do to survive really.



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Message 7/19             06-Jun-01  @  10:48 PM   -   RE: EOS 4.6 - shit update !

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The details of how to do this are on E-mu's website once you enter your name and email address in the form. They recommend printing out the instructions and following them. There is info there on this specific message.

Seems pretty straightforward to me. Of course many of the features in this upgrade are there to sell the RFX board, that only makes sense. Calling it a sh*t upgrade just because you can't follow instructions is unjustified.

There are a few features and bug-fixes in there that are for RFX and non-RFX users. You guys need to get a life if all you're doing is complaining about E-mu here. They've provided a useful upgrade just on the ASR importing feature alone. You can't expect them to do miracles necessarily. They've been supporting the E4 platform since 1994 which is longer than many manufacturers.

Regards,
fv



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Message 8/19             07-Jun-01  @  10:15 PM   -   RE: EOS 4.6 - shit update !

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hah. YOU GUYS NEED TO GET A LIFE he says.

oh well. I wasnt even fucking with the update thing..just commenting on it. 4.1 works fine for me



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Message 9/19             10-Jun-01  @  11:42 PM   -   RE: EOS 4.6 - shit update !

Laurent.ash

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Sorry FV, but it doesn't work on my sampler, i read carefully the instructions and do it as it it written in the doc on emu website's...
No 4.6 and 4.61, so what's going on ? is that a special update for special users ? ;))
Emu logo and nothing more... i do have to say shit update...
I do house music... wanted to know when Emu is gonna put a sample start adress in the preset menu ? every sampler on the market got this function but not the E4... that's a shame to.



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Message 10/19             11-Jun-01  @  11:25 PM   -   RE: EOS 4.6 - shit update !

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Hi,

I really had no problems with it. Many people on the E-mu list at Yahoo-groups also had no problems getting it installed. Just because you guys had problems installing it doesn't necessarily mean that it is a shit update.

You guys crying "wa-a-h" just because you're having problems is why I made the comment "get a life". Okay, you're having problems installing it. That's fine. Ask for help rather than "shit update, shit company, shit this, shit that". Come on, grow up.

Anyway, Laurent.ash@@libertysurf.fr:
The reason you see 4.61 on E-mu's site is because they released an update to EOS 4.60 which fixes 2 bugs from EOS 4.6. One bug had to do with not loading up multi's saved as Multi 000 in EOS 4.5 (it only affected RFX users). The other bug was one that E-mu hadn't completed fixed (although they thought they had) in relation to the ASCII keyboard.

Did you create an EOS 4.61 disk as well as the FlashPrep disk? When you power up after the Flash Prep disk, you need to have the EOS 4.61 disk in the floppy drive. It will come up with a similar screen to the flash prep one asking if you want to install EOS 4.61. Press Enter, it will load up the OS and you will then be prompted to save it to flash. Press Enter.

That's all there is to it. I loaded up it up the other day without a hitch. Good luck,
fv



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Message 11/19             12-Jun-01  @  02:23 PM   -   RE: EOS 4.6 - shit update !

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feeling a little uptight were we? only one person complained of problems installing the os.

I complained about some of emus practices which maybe you`ll understand a lot better once the buttons on your e4 stop working, or double-triple/quadruple trigger making using it a nightmare and then get told by emu that its due to "wear and tear" and not a design fault. Started happening after 18n months of owning the damn thing and I only ever get to use it at weekends. Thats fucked up. And so`s my sampler.



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Message 12/19             12-Jun-01  @  10:09 PM   -   RE: EOS 4.6 - shit update !

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No, not uptight. I think it's the other way around. I've owned my sampler for roughly about 18 months and have not noticed the buttons dbl-triggering at all. There are other people I know who have had theirs for years without problems.

Did you use a hammer to press those buttons?



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Message 13/19             12-Jun-01  @  10:55 PM   -   RE: EOS 4.6 - shit update !

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oh yeah, that must be it. Must have been what was wrong with influx`s one too?

I didn`t spend this much money on a sampler to then only use it sparingly.



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Message 14/19             12-Jun-01  @  11:48 PM   -   RE: EOS 4.6 - shit update !

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yeah nando...you must fuckin work for them or somethin! pretty hilarious that Ive had an E4 that went shoddy, and now a 6400 ultra with a bad rotary encoder. In addition to that the "audition" button usually only triggers the very beginning of a sample, until I press it a few times and finally coax it into playing back my god damn samples

I LOVE E-mu stuff. I really do, but I suspect that as time passes the quality will go down and we're gonna end up with another "youre on your own" company.

hell..even doing an OS upgrade is a pain in the ass!

dont forget that I said I love my sampler.

and Rtek..quit hittin yours with a hammer, wouldya?



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Message 15/19             13-Jun-01  @  12:08 AM   -   RE: EOS 4.6 - shit update !

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I can`t help it man.

to restate - I also love me emu and for as long as the company exists, and as long as they continue to make musical intruments worthy of the name, then I`ll always be an emu "no-lifer".



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Message 16/19             14-Jun-01  @  07:07 AM   -   RE: EOS 4.6 - shit update !

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Hey,

I don't really want to argue with you guys. Your samplers broke and you're p*ssed off. That's fine. I'm sure that I wouldn't be very happy either.

I felt the remarks about lousy cust serv regarding the EOS update were unjustified. The OS upgrade really isn't that difficult. Sure, there are things that can go wrong but I followed the steps and everything fell into place without a hitch. When I bought my E-5000 Ultra, it came with EOS 4.0 installed. I upgraded the OS to EOS 4.01 and then to 4.1. They all went without a hitch as well.

If you want to complain that E-mu won't fix your broken button or rotary dial after 18 months of use when it isn't covered under warranty, that's your prerogative. I'm not going to argue with you whether I think it is right or wrong.

Heck, we are all entitled to our opinions and I certainly don't expect everyone to agree with me.

Anyway, I apologize if I offended either of you in any way. It was not my intent nor is it my nature.

Peace



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Message 17/19             14-Jun-01  @  01:49 PM   -   RE: EOS 4.6 - shit update !

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my emax is still going - generaly older kit whover it's made by is better quality - seems so much new gear is fucked up... by the way infrasound is rtek??????? - ha ha! - hey rtek, wassup with your added track, the volumes a 'tad' on the low side innit?.. which is a shame cos it sounds pretty good.

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Message 18/19             14-Jun-01  @  05:49 PM   -   RE: EOS 4.6 - shit update !

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ah shit, not my track mate - its an ancient remix of an AGCG track by 4hero which I put up for Mr Wet cos it must be one of the 1st 2-step tunes. If you like it tho, then we can pretend its mine  

Yeah, the volume - seemed as if I`d gotten the levels right but then it was only the 2nd thing I`d ever recorded into my computer. Anyway, I dumped the bslive for one of those hoonetech value things - nice, still dont know what the fuck I`m doing tho.



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Message 19/19             14-Jun-01  @  07:56 PM   -   RE: EOS 4.6 - shit update !

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nando...just didnt think the get a life thing was necessary

and as far as bad buttons and rotary encoders go...IMO that is something that should be covered for a LONG time. the sampler I have is just barely over a year old, and hardly got ANY use, and actually the dial was fucked from the start but the damn hippie that owned it didnt care so didnt get it fixed under warranty

Joe Meek makes awesome product, and their warranties are for life. same with midiman, and a few other companies that are dedicated to making something that lasts. Emu quality has definitely taken a downhill slide, and its a sad sight



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