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Original Message 1/10 03-Aug-01 @ 05:23 AM - Smoke and Mirrors.

Robert Wade

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Influx,

Smoke and mirrors is absolutely banging track. I think it
is your best out of everything that you have listed.

It is complex, has fat beats, get's very dense in the end,
and feels deep.

Very dope.

Your other tracks seem to be great on the drum
programming (fat by the way - how do you do?), but the
bassliness and acid stabs/pads are pretty common
sounding for the most part (for this genre anyway).

However, that being said, I can see where you thought
my track Phonewerk was too basic. You have a much
more active track build up than I do.

Anyway, that is my blow hard analysis. Smoke and
Mirrors though? Shoot - that is the absolute freakin'
mack daddy track.

I'm off to listen to it again.

rob.

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Message 2/10 03-Aug-01 @ 07:43 PM - RE: Smoke and Mirrors.

influx

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thanks man.

the other stuff sounds common? some, maybe, but damn dude...most of my sounds are hand crafted to the core!

well again, a hifi version sure does sound better, and theres one section...a transition that just DOESNT work and I need to smooth it out but my stuff is all torn down now

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Message 3/10 03-Aug-01 @ 09:30 PM - RE: Smoke and Mirrors.

influx

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oh, and you asked about drums. I just try to syncopate stuff. thats one cool thing about cubase or any other onscreen seq because you can SEE the drum patterns, so I just shift stuff around until it drops in and feels nice. and then I try to really focus on feels and changes...something that always stood out to me in the songs I liked back in the day. My and my hessian friends would always comment on the "sick change" that a band did to lead into another part...

Im still gonna fight you for that "common' statement

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Message 4/10 04-Aug-01 @ 03:42 AM - RE: Smoke and Mirrors.

roller8

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I say bring that low synth line taht falls in around the 4:30 point up to a prominent position in the arrangement. I think it's got that "Looking for the Perfect Beat" thing going on. Rocking electro beats btw...

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Message 5/10 04-Aug-01 @ 06:49 PM - RE: Smoke and Mirrors.

Robert Wade

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Yo influx,

I understand your comments about making
those sounds from scratch. You deserve
props for that, of course.

But, I think (in my humble opinion - uh, blow
hard opinion, maybe?) that you are designing
sounds that you have been influenced by.

No problems with that, of course. That is how
we learn and grow! But, with that being said,
the sounds I was referring to sound familiar -
so if I was at a breaks club I wouldn't
necessarily be able to say "holy shit - that is
Influx's sound! Nobody sounds like that Cat!"

You see what I am saying? The sounds are
good, but not covering any new territory - so I
would imagine that would be a goal of yours,
possibly?

It was like when Ed Rush and Optical were
hittin' 5 years ago - I mean, you could
recognize their flavor! And if you were wrong
about a particular track, you could be sure that
the artist playing was *mimicing* their sound -
or paying homage. whichever.

So, I would get deeper into your synth
programming skills and draw up some real
sick blasto synth sounds that make the song
yours!

You obviously are kickin' it with some talent.
And my review is coming from not an artists
perspective per se, but the DJ in the shop
listeing to a track to see if I would buy it....

BTW, congrats on the listing in Tweakend. Any
publicity is good publicity. Too bad they didn't
list you by your handle...INFLUX Baby!

rob.

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Message 6/10 07-Aug-01 @ 12:00 AM - RE: Smoke and Mirrors.

Robert Wade

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Bump.

Hey Influx, you didn't respond. I was hoping that I didn't offend you with my comments.

rob.

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Message 7/10 07-Aug-01 @ 12:19 AM - RE: Smoke and Mirrors.

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I'd like to hear it at better resolution. I mean you've done a wonderfull job so that even squished down to 24kbps it sounds good. I can only imagine what it would sound like at 128 or 160 or CD hey now.

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Message 8/10 07-Aug-01 @ 02:06 AM - RE: Smoke and Mirrors.

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Sure this isn't sounding like 808 State and New Order???

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Message 9/10 07-Aug-01 @ 03:35 AM - RE: Smoke and Mirrors.

influx

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808 state and new order? haha! thats DOPE

I dunno. Ive listened to so many varying styles of music over my twenty..uh..nevermind...years that Im just a mutt as far as influences go

digitalbound...I wasnt offended..not the right word. I just dont think that my sounds sound "typical". I mean..I cant say that Im autechre or something, but nor do I think that my stuff sounds like I sat down and said "well I like that bass so Im gonna copy it, and that lead so Im gonna get that one"...

but however you hear it is how you hear it and nothing can change that

Ed...sounds good at lofi? you must be peakin

but thanks anyway

I will have a CD ready soon. Im tired of printing out demos to send out. next offering will be a good recording, on my own label. full length album and 12's to come.

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Message 10/10 07-Aug-01 @ 07:09 PM - RE: Smoke and Mirrors.

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dude...influx you are like a celebrity here...
oh.. I am just saying this to piss you off :P

I want to listen to your track as soon as I can find a pc with sound output.

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