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Subject: That sound
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Original Message 1/14 01-Oct-01 @ 09:52 PM - That sound
Looking for that eighties punch in my drums. Gating my snares helps but they're still not quite a crisp as I would like.
And my kicks aren't happening at all. In fact they sound quite dull. Instead of a nice warm 'wump' I get a dull 'thud'.
How did those eighties producers get such slamming beats?
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
Message 2/14 02-Oct-01 @ 02:10 PM - RE: That sound
if my memory serves (and i assume you mean NON dance genre for the eighties?) then it'd be the result of using 80's drumbox samples & a touch of gated verb + compression???.....
Message 3/14 02-Oct-01 @ 04:08 PM - RE: That sound
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too much low end? try rolling off at the eq at 80 or below.
Message 4/14 02-Oct-01 @ 04:51 PM - RE: That sound
| BEATS | 1 0 0 0 | 2 0 0 0 | 3 0 0 0 | 4 0 0 0 |
| kick | 1 0 0 0 | 1 0 0 0 | 1 0 0 0 | 1 0 0 0 |
| snare1 | 0 0 0 0 | 1 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 1 0 0 0 |
| snare2 | 0 0 0 0 | 1 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 1 0 0 0 |
| snare3 | 0 0 0 0 | 1 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 1 0 0 0 |
| hats | 1 1 0 0 | 1 1 0 0 | 1 1 0 0 | 1 1 0 0 |
| openhh | 0 0 1 0 | 0 0 1 0 | 0 0 1 0 | 0 0 1 0 |
also layer your snares like in the drum groove diagram with this message
Message 5/14 02-Oct-01 @ 04:52 PM - RE: That sound
that encompasses a lot of tunes. what exactly are you looking for? Lionel Richie or Hüsker Dü?
Message 6/14 03-Oct-01 @ 01:44 AM - RE: That sound
mind you if he means 80's dance?... well some of it was crisp and electronic and was the machines of the day, linn & simmons etc.. and some was analog and some was 12bit sampler and some was 16 bit sampler.. mixed on hardware boards, analog distortion often from hard driven channels, some fx.
i think you'll have to be more specific in what 80's music you mean really to get a more defined answer
Message 8/14 08-Oct-01 @ 11:41 PM - RE: That sound
Wow, thanks for the reply. Actually, I was referring to eighties dance, like George Micheal or Prince.
Message 9/14 09-Oct-01 @ 08:08 PM Edit: 09-Oct-01 | 08:11 PM - RE: That sound
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blimey... well.. oberheim DMX, emu's SP12 and SP1200, Linndrum, simmons modules (think any old SAW, Dead or Alive etc), possibly TR727 percussions, tr808, any of the possibly old 'beep-bloop' basic analog drumbox's (cheezey sounds like the KPR77 or Pearl drumbox ... also possibly the Sequential Tom (sequential drum-modules were quite good at the time)... & early samplers, mirage, akai & e-mu 12bit etc.
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Message 10/14 19-Oct-01 @ 04:21 PM - RE: That sound
OR sample a kick drum with a coin taped to it...it will give this hard click in yer sound...
Message 11/14 23-Oct-01 @ 03:53 PM - RE: That sound
Well, I just read an interview with BT in Remiz magazine, and while I'm not exactly his biggest fan, I was kind of impressed with his technical and musical knowledge...Didn't expect it to be quite honest. Anyway, one thing he does to give his drum samples more punch (he does this when cutting up a groove and time adjusting) is to cut a little bit of the attack off at the beginning of the hit, not on a zero crossing. This creates a high frequency pop, which can be tamed a bit using a filter or envelope or something...
Hope that helps
Later
FAB
Message 12/14 23-Oct-01 @ 10:10 PM - RE: That sound
and the award for the ugliest drumbox ever created goes to......
I read somewhere that applying an exciter to the first few samples on a drumsound gives it more impact also. Works sometimes too.
Message 13/14 26-Oct-01 @ 09:21 AM - RE: That sound
or a fast pitch sweep from very hi to it's normal pitch in a few ms... Doesn't everybody cut of those first few samples? I allways thought that was the only way to do it...
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