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Subject: Record in stereo
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Original Message 1/12 11-Dec-01 @ 04:21 PM - Record in stereo
What I have is a Behringer MX 802A mixer, a guitar w/ a Line6 POD (amp simulator), a drum machine, a bass module and a soundcard with only one input.
After I have made a drum and a bass part in Cakewalk, I want to record the guitar part. To do that, I need to hear the drum and the bass while playing, but I only want the guitar to be recorded. There are both control room and main outs on the mixer (as well as a headphones out which, I think, is the same as the ctrl room out), but I haven't found a way to "isolate" the guitar channels and only send them through the main outs but still be able to monitor all channels.
The only way I have found to do what I want is to plug the guitar into the pod into two channels on the mixer, and go from one of the AUX sends to the line in on my soundcard. This seems a bit backwards to me though, and it's impossible to record in stereo that way, which is what I want to do. I would also prefer to plug the guitar straight into the mixer, and put the pod between the AUX send and the AUX return, but that's a minor issue since it's just a matter of swapping a few cables when I want to record.
If anyone has used the MX 802 or know how it works, and have any tips on how to record just a few of the channels while still being able to monitor all channels, please let me know! Right now I go from the POD to two mono channels on the mixer, but I could of course use a stereo channel instead, if it makes any difference.
Thanks!
Message 2/12 11-Dec-01 @ 05:13 PM - RE: Record in stereo
If your mixer has 'inserts' on any channels, you can use them as isolated channel sends, that way, you won't even hear any latency on the guitar, as it will be passing through the mixer before being recorded by the computer. on my little mackie, only the mono channels have inserts.
don't put the mixer between your guitar and the POD--you'll lose osme of the realism of the amp emulation. be sure to try running other things through the POD--it's a real cool box.
Message 3/12 11-Dec-01 @ 09:04 PM - RE: Record in stereo
The only other alternative for you is to run the pod into two seperate mono channels on the board, and send one channel out one aux and the other out of the second.. Connecting both auxes to your sound card.
The last thing I wanted to bring up is that just because you can record guitars in stereo doesn't mean you always should.. In many circumstances you can get a big ugly mess when applying effects, or even just having the guitar's sonic footprint being too big in your mix - especially if you're overdubbing guitars. Usually I record all takes through the pod in stereo and then throw out one side, or mix them down to mono if necessary.
-Craig
Message 4/12 12-Dec-01 @ 12:25 AM - RE: Record in stereo
Message 5/12 12-Dec-01 @ 12:53 AM - RE: Record in stereo
"don't put the mixer between your guitar and the POD--you'll lose osme of the realism of the amp emulation. be sure to try running other things through the POD--it's a real cool box."
That's why I wanted to put it between the aux send/return - so I can run my drums or bass through the pod just by turning a knob.
Most of the effects in the pod are stereo, that's why I also need to be able to record in stereo. The chorus sounds pretty dull in mono...
Message 6/12 13-Dec-01 @ 03:25 PM - RE: Record in stereo
-Craig
Message 7/12 13-Dec-01 @ 08:02 PM - RE: Record in stereo
Message 8/12 13-Dec-01 @ 09:57 PM - RE: Record in stereo
Message 9/12 14-Dec-01 @ 02:41 PM - RE: Record in stereo
-Craig
Message 10/12 14-Dec-01 @ 03:40 PM - RE: Record in stereo
Message 11/12 14-Dec-01 @ 04:55 PM - RE: Record in stereo
Message 12/12 14-Dec-01 @ 06:31 PM - RE: Record in stereo
I'd recommend anyone wanting one of these things to try 'em all out.. Your milegae may vary, but I loved the sound of the POD and hated the J-Station. Personal preference is all, but that's why YOU need to try them out YOURSELF
-Craig
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