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Subject: EMU E64 data backup question


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Original Message 1/14             20-May-02  @  01:24 PM   -   EMU E64 data backup question

woxy

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OK - I just read Pongoids post and got scared (I'm praying for your sampler P!)

I've got an EMU E64 running EOS 4.0 Classic. I normally save all my BANK information (thats EMU Presets and Samples) onto E-Z Flyer 230MB Carts. One BANK per track - plus a backup. I've also got a PC with a SCSI card - so I can send individual *.wavs from SoundForge to the EMU and back again.

What I want to do it backup all the BANK information on all my catridges (~12 of them).

I don't really want to have load up each bank and then transfer the samples individually as I would grow old doing it. I want someway of loading the BANK onto the EMU and then being able to transfer whole BANK via SCSI onto my PC so I can burn the data off to CDR.

Any software that will let me do this?? Or alternative methods for backing up data.

cheers
WOXY

ps. As my PC, EMU and E-Z Flyer are all on the same SCSI buss I've tried reading direct from E-Z Flyer to PC but I got a scary message saying

"Drive X: Removable drive is unformatted - ready to format now??"

...at which point I very very very carefully clicked the cancel button and gave up....



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Message 2/14             20-May-02  @  03:18 PM   -   RE: EMU E64 data backup question

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don't know if this will help, but i use it to burn cd's from my emu disk. it's great scsi bundel. caled disk-2-disk, disk-2-cd etc, and it's on www.cnet.com. works in dos. does a flawless job of copying the entire disk to any other scsi device.



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Message 3/14             20-May-02  @  05:23 PM   -   RE: EMU E64 data backup question

woxy

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cheers - i saw that you'd mentioned that on another thread - i'll have a look for it now.

cheers
woxy



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Message 4/14             20-May-02  @  09:50 PM   -   RE: EMU E64 data backup question

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Yeah, SCSI devices can copy by image, in other words they don't care how the data's organized, they just "take a picture" and write that picture onto a new drive. You can burn CDs with it or back up to another hard disk.

-Craig



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Message 5/14             21-May-02  @  05:11 AM   -   RE: EMU E64 data backup question

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really?



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Message 6/14             21-May-02  @  12:49 PM   -   RE: EMU E64 data backup question

woxy

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cool. i've got demo versions of disk2disk and also cdxtract. will post back tomorrow once i've tried them.

i'll be suprised if i can take an image of an external disk that my computer thinks is unformatted!

http://www.cdxtract.com/
http://www.duncanamps.com/disk2disk/


cheers
WOXY



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Message 7/14             23-May-02  @  10:13 PM   -   RE: EMU E64 data backup question

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influx, we talked about that program on another thread. It's dos pc only. There may be mac utilities like that bundle.



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Message 8/14             23-May-02  @  10:31 PM   -   RE: EMU E64 data backup question

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Check out disk2file. It'll cost you a couple bucks after the first few uses but it's worth it and you dont have to run it in dos. It has come in quite handy for me.



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Message 9/14             25-May-02  @  09:20 PM   -   RE: EMU E64 data backup question

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Well folks - DISK2FILE did it for me. So I didn't get around to trying the others.


DISK2FILE allows me read an an image from my EZFlyer drive to my PC (running WIN98SE) via a normal SCSI connection. I could then burn this data as an *.iso image onto CDR for backup. I can then write the image directly back from my PC to EZFlyer and my sampler can read it.


Perfect.


I'm off to purchase a copy - US$30.


I'm very happy - thanks everyone!

cheers
WOXY


ps. I also tried to read direct from my EMU's 64MB RAM but that failed. No great shakes though, I can backup and re-use all my old EZFlyer cartridges now.



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Message 10/14             26-May-02  @  07:52 PM   -   RE: EMU E64 data backup question

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Brett...the "really" was to Craig. I remember you talkin abou that program.

Ill probably get it soon.

hey woxy..why not get a fairly big SCSI hd? if youre running OS4 you can have up to 18gig I believe



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Message 11/14             26-May-02  @  08:17 PM   -   RE: EMU E64 data backup question

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Big hard drives would be problematic to back up though. What would you write an 18gig file to?



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Message 12/14             26-May-02  @  10:40 PM   -   RE: EMU E64 data backup question

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hey woxy! is your cdrw not scsi? cuase if it were you could put it directly to cd if it's less than 650mb.

Also I wonder for bigger sampler disks, in the 4gb area, if you could then burn the image file to a DVDR? If it's scsi you could then load directly from the dvd back to the sampler.



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Message 13/14             26-May-02  @  10:42 PM   -   RE: EMU E64 data backup question

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I actually meant using the hard drive as backup. If you just write to it every once in a while and arent accessing all the time it will be plenty reliable.



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Message 14/14             27-May-02  @  12:46 PM   -   RE: EMU E64 data backup question

woxy

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brett - yep - my CDR is SCSI and the program picked it up too - so i guess i could skip a step and go direct to CDR. as far as DVDs go - i haven't really gone it for all that new fangled DVDVDVD technology just yet.

influx - yep - a big backup SCSI hard drive would be nice.

i'm gonna stick with burning CDRs for the moment - - - - as tempting as it is, i'm trying to stop configuring / optimising my setup and just get on with writing some music!

right i'm off to make some bleeps.

cheers
WOXY



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