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Original Message 1/18 22-Aug-02 @ 03:07 PM - Mad Delay Break Tips

emerty

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Hi... Anybody got any creative delay tips?

I tend to use loads of feedback on the breakdowns but can't seem to get the really wooshing fucked up sound i'm looking for as used on loads of tracks. City Rockers type stuff and Junior London for those that know.

Any tips would be highly appreciated.

Ta.

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Message 2/18 22-Aug-02 @ 03:26 PM - RE: Mad Delay Tips

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Here are some mad delays: Try changing the delay's setting while it's feeding back. This is one of my favourites! For some truly crazy effects in Logic Audio, try automating the delay changes, for example, adjusting the groove from 50-75 per cent. The feedback delay will gradually move from the beat to the offbeat, pitching the sound as it goes. In the 4.7 release you now have the extra parameters button; try experimenting with the smooth and flutter settings.

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Message 3/18 22-Aug-02 @ 03:47 PM - RE: Mad Delay Tips

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I use nuendo but I think you can do something simliar with the delays plug in, will give it a try. thanks for the tip. anyone got any others?

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Message 4/18 22-Aug-02 @ 04:00 PM - RE: Mad Delay Tips

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yeah you could setup a delay and feed that into a filter and then setup a delay burst, feed it back and then filter the feedback off into oblivion etc.

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Message 5/18 22-Aug-02 @ 04:31 PM - RE: Mad Delay Tips

emerty

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k thanks for the tip, just one thing, delay burst?

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Message 6/18 22-Aug-02 @ 05:31 PM - RE: Mad Delay Tips

formant

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the answer is to buy ohmboyz delay...

it will get you the 'junior' messed up sound filtering and warping into oblivion in like 3 clicks...

jamey

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Message 7/18 22-Aug-02 @ 05:47 PM - RE: Mad Delay Tips

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aha.. good tip yes ohmforce...

delay 'burst' meaning like how at the end of a phrase or whenever the delay SEND is raised for a moment then closed again, sending a 'burst' of signal from the channel to the delay sorta dub style.. this then puts a small bit of the channel signal into the delay and with a long feedback setting which can be adjusted also over time you can then get that burst of signal to keep feeding back in the delay and gradualy fade away by gently rolling off the feedback setting a bit at the point you want the delay sound to fade away... you can then mess with that delay feedback with a sweep filter etc to get swooshing delay fx which filter off into infinity etc...

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Message 8/18 22-Aug-02 @ 05:55 PM - RE: Mad Delay Tips

emerty

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thanks k.

i've got the frohmage plug in and it rocks. so will try the delay oneas well. cheers formant.

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Message 9/18 22-Aug-02 @ 07:21 PM - RE: Mad Delay Tips

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yup. that delay...well...just plain mindblowing.

also...I like sending the delay to a flanger/phaser/chorus and or reverb, dist, etc...so the feedback is effected...

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Message 10/18 22-Aug-02 @ 08:20 PM Edit: 22-Aug-02 | 10:07 PM - RE: Mad Delay Tips

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My favorite has to be the Tape Delay in Logic. That thing is awesome for crescendos. My favorite trick is to reverse one hit of a bongo-slap or a loud-snare, place it either 1 or 2 bars before the kick-in and feed it through the Tape delay (insert, set to 1/4 note) and then use automation to bring the feedback above 50% and it just goes wild with feedback in true tape style! Creating a nice distorted wooshing delay that keeps building till you bring the feedback down. Feed the delay through a big reverb and away you go! Be carefull though, when it goes off it goes off quickly and can soon destroy your ears!

Regards.

Steve.

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Message 11/18 22-Aug-02 @ 09:28 PM - RE: Mad Delay Tips

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for any newbies reading this, that is ohmforce website - makers of frohmage etc, and yes they have some freeware i think

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Message 12/18 22-Aug-02 @ 10:20 PM - RE: Mad Delay Tips

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Delay tippy: Send your feed to the delay thru FX and EQ before you hit the delay, use dotted eighths on one side, quarters or halfs on the other side (of a stereo delay) and automate the feedback amounts on each side to vary which side goes on longer. (I tend to make stereo delays by using two mono delays....).

bon appetitty

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Message 13/18 23-Aug-02 @ 08:44 AM - RE: Mad Delay Tips

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Hmmmm, I like the sound of that tip Steve. I'm gonna use that one. Nice one.

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Message 14/18 23-Aug-02 @ 12:01 PM - RE: Mad Delay Tips

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that thing that reverses the sample and extra switches in analogs that are forbidden

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Message 15/18 23-Aug-02 @ 12:10 PM - RE: Mad Delay Tips

emerty

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eh?

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Message 16/18 23-Aug-02 @ 12:19 PM - RE: Mad Delay Tips

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Hello xoxos, good to see you are with us today?!? :P

Regards.

Steve.

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Message 17/18 23-Aug-02 @ 01:37 PM - RE: Mad Delay Tips

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Also you could try waiting for the 113 bus every night after work. The maddest delays ever.

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Message 18/18 23-Aug-02 @ 02:17 PM Edit: 23-Aug-02 | 03:21 PM - RE: Mad Delay Tips

Steve Roughley

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Wahey! I've just been messing with the new Aux objects in Logic 5.2 and have found that I can do my all time favorite loop-delay. When I was using Pro-Tools I used this all the time but switching to Logic with it's limited mixer routing meant that it was not possible, 'till now with the 5.2 update.

Here we go: Firstly you need to set up two bus tracks, two auxiliary tracks and an audio track, so that you have:

Audio Track 1, Bus 1, Bus 2, Aux 1, Aux 2

Put a dry sample on "Audio Track 1". On this track, set up an aux send to "Bus 1" and make sure that the Buses main output is set to "No-Output" (this is important).

Set the input of "Aux 1" to "Bus 1" (to receive the output of the aux send). Insert a Stereo Delay into "Aux 1", with the Mix set to '100%' and the Feedback and Crossover both set to '0' (so that you only get one tap from the delay). On the "Aux 1" channel, create an aux send to "Bus 2" (also make sure that "Bus 2" is set to "No-Output"!).

Now on "Aux 2", set the input to "Bus 2" (to receive from the Stereo Delay send), and the output back to "Bus 1" (this completes the loop).

Finally, on "Aux 2" insert an effect, I recommend the "Distortion Effect".

What happens is a delay loop. The first time the loop is executed, the delay creates one 'tap', which is fed through the effect. This is then fed back through the loop, delayed and effected again creating the next and even more distorted tap, and so on, gradually destroying the original sound. FANTASTIC!

Regards.

Steve.

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