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Subject: gosh durn frickin DBX 386+Meek C2
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Original Message 1/17 10-Sep-02 @ 08:38 AM - gosh durn frickin DBX 386+Meek C2
DAMN!
Ok. I got a hold of a DBX 386 which is a "tube" mic pre...has inserts on the back, and a DA converter (which i thought would be nifty)
I figured I could use these two as a tracking path so I could get that...awww you know...thick...tubes...fat...blah blah blah
but FCK me if this just aint workin!!!!!
I know the 386 works cuz I had to take it to the damn shop cuz some asshole on ebay pawned it off on me semi-broken (claiming it was perfect) so..its fixed...and its getting and passing signal...
but i have to CRANK the inputs and outputs ALL THE WAY full to get a hot signal out the SPDIF out (coax) and it doesnt do SHIT to the sound!!!!!!!!! well...doesnt sound like it at least
then theres the inserts. Puttin that little rinky meek C2 on there...everything seems cool...but FCK ME if some WEIRD shit aint happenin...
dammit I would have to take NOTES to explain this shit...
for starters..if I turn the input down on the C2 (its a stereo unit, so...) then the left side still plays out on a stereo sound....but then when I turn it up...the right side fills in?
you know what? FCK THIS SHIT. This is just too much for me. God Damn soundcard sounds FINE on its own...so screw this...
I gotta admit its well-nigh impossible for me to just let something go when its not working..I want to know WHY?!?!?!
one thought...Im using balanced patch cables in an unbalanced patchbay..any reason why that would be a problem? Damn GC didnt have the unbalanced ones MFers...
I suspect that has something to do with this nonsnse...
Message 2/17 10-Sep-02 @ 09:00 AM - RE: gosh durn frickin DBX 386+Meek C2
A good tube machine can add a little warm saturation without it getting too grainy, and it can make some of the tastiest distortion you can find (IMHO). Dunna give up on it yet good Influx. =)
Message 3/17 10-Sep-02 @ 09:11 AM - RE: gosh durn frickin DBX 386+Meek C2
I CANT EVEN GET IT TO DISTORT DAMMIT!
its not the tubes, its not the cables (I mean theyre not 'bad')...
hell...I dunno...
any other suggestions on something to track through? Anyone ever used a compounder?
anyone wanna buy me an Empirical Labs Fatso? I'll be your friend!
Message 4/17 10-Sep-02 @ 09:28 AM - RE: gosh durn frickin DBX 386+Meek C2
Hey, you don't know of a cheap MY8-AT for sale do ya? Doin' a few final bits of upgrading before we move into a new studio....
Peas
Message 5/17 10-Sep-02 @ 09:36 AM - RE: gosh durn frickin DBX 386+Meek C2
psylichon
Message 6/17 10-Sep-02 @ 09:37 AM - RE: gosh durn frickin DBX 386+Meek C2
in that price range i rather liked mindprint t-comp (yes, i´ll mention it yet again), wchis is a 2ch. comp with separate tube drive knob beside the i/o level knobs, so you can add as much tube "warmth" or propper distortion while still keeping your levels in check. plus it has optional spdif i/o. only thing is, its not a pre amp, but maybe their other products let you do the same thing.
Message 7/17 10-Sep-02 @ 09:57 AM - RE: gosh durn frickin DBX 386+Meek C2
but wait..isnt that what the damn thing is FOR? taking a line level signal like a synth output (which...arent they pretty in hot anyway?!?!?) and treating it?
maybe I should be looking at a different setup...kinda have my eye on a compounder...but I liked the idea of the digital converter
and still...with the C2 compressor inserted...I really should be able to get the thing really crankin, no?
Message 8/17 10-Sep-02 @ 10:04 AM - RE: gosh durn frickin DBX 386+Meek C2
I dunno...heres a thought? do I really need to track through something? I mean...does it make a difference?
ive got that UAD-1 workin perfectly...so maybe that can get me the type of sound I want?
I dont mean to place emphasis on the distortion thing..that wasnt my main goal..but I would like to be able to get it to do that if I want...
the fact that I have to literally put both the input and output pots to FULL to get a full signal trips me out
Message 9/17 10-Sep-02 @ 10:16 AM - RE: gosh durn frickin DBX 386+Meek C2
steinberg supposed to? didnt see it there.
feck
Message 10/17 10-Sep-02 @ 04:08 PM - RE: gosh durn frickin DBX 386+Meek C2
Message 11/17 10-Sep-02 @ 04:52 PM - RE: gosh durn frickin DBX 386+Meek C2
when all this was goin' down.
Message 12/17 10-Sep-02 @ 06:16 PM - RE: gosh durn frickin DBX 386+Meek C2
Why the fuck is this anyway????
Get the UAD... the 1176 is all the phat you need.
psylichon
Message 13/17 10-Sep-02 @ 07:25 PM - RE: gosh durn frickin DBX 386+Meek C2
Im trying to avoid falling for the 'tube craze' but...
heres the thought in the back of my mind..new question..is there a difference going THROUGH something vs applying it later?
I wonder the same about FX? I just wanted something to track THROUGH..
soundcard is an RME digi96/8. solid for sure...
Message 14/17 10-Sep-02 @ 08:30 PM - RE: gosh durn frickin DBX 386+Meek C2
As for tracking synths and what not, maybe a little more preprocessing gets done, but usually just synthesis, I still go pretty dry onto HD.
I do know that over the last few months I've been doing more and more "inside the black box," wasn't trying to, just seemed to end up that way. But anyhoos, for me tracking through stuff is usually a secondary choice, but the applying after apporoach is also what I'm used to doing (largely from not having much gear and PC power when I initially got into this...old habits die hard...)...
Message 15/17 10-Sep-02 @ 09:13 PM - RE: gosh durn frickin DBX 386+Meek C2
Im having a hard time letting go of the idea that Im gonna have 'too digital' of a sound if I just go straight into the computer...
which is why I wanted something to go THROUGH...
I figured out one of the problems. Had ONE bad insert cable, which was what was fouling up the C2 being able to work properly....
Message 16/17 10-Sep-02 @ 11:03 PM - RE: gosh durn frickin DBX 386+Meek C2
on the front yet?
Message 17/17 10-Sep-02 @ 11:23 PM - RE: gosh durn frickin DBX 386+Meek C2
it comes down to the fact that the virus just has a not so hot output...it really doesnt hit the inputs on the preamp hard at ALL, and to get a proper digital signal OUT I have to crank the ins and outs...which adds a LOT of noise
so...fuck it. done deal, no mas. Im gettin rid of BOTH.
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