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Original Message 1/25 28-Sep-02 @ 10:55 PM - Lucid Dreaming
psylichon
Message 2/25 29-Sep-02 @ 12:29 AM - RE: Lucid Dreaming
i usually can get into that state when i'm very tired, like after a good few days partying.
Message 3/25 29-Sep-02 @ 12:53 AM - RE: Lucid Dreaming
I don't really remember my dreams much.
psylichon
Message 4/25 29-Sep-02 @ 09:57 AM - RE: Lucid Dreaming
Now I don't even fuck w/ it, but I still often accidently go into it when trying to fall asleep, which is hard enuff for me anyway (spaz).
It *can* be fun tho!
Lately I've been getting into these weird trance-kinda states if I smoke weed and then try to go to sleep. I just get WAY zoned out and relaxed and when I snap out of it, I realize I was thinking of some wild shit.
Then there's the old sleep paralysis, which really was a gateway to my lucid dreams in the first place. That's really weird shit; where you can't move but you can open your eyes, and you hear and see crazy and scary stuff. Like fluttering noises, voices calling your name, shadows walking around in your room. You had that? I've meet a few other ppl. who get it too.
Anyway, I guess it's time for those nice men in the white coats to take me back ;-)
Message 5/25 29-Sep-02 @ 02:02 PM - RE: Lucid Dreaming
Message 6/25 29-Sep-02 @ 10:28 PM - RE: Lucid Dreaming
Message 7/25 30-Sep-02 @ 05:40 PM - RE: Lucid Dreaming
Redefining what we think of as "real" is the point for me. And directing the power of the dream state to recognizing my true nature. It's all a reflection, and in dreams we don't really question that notion. It's funny though, that upon wakeing we pretend it's different.
e
Message 8/25 30-Sep-02 @ 05:55 PM - RE: Lucid Dreaming
I was reading in "The Holographic Universe" that our body sees and remembers movement information in the form of interference waves (i.e. a hologram), and these waves are generated when you dream also. Basically, you can teach yourself a dance, or to fight, or any number of physical and mental things in your dreams. People can solve their problems in their dreams because answers come to them more easily (this isn't me, or even the average person, but GOOD dreamers mind you)
It's just fascinating stuff. Clairvoiance in dreams is also documented. Perhaps our dream state is something to be achieved at all times.
psylichon
Message 9/25 30-Sep-02 @ 06:01 PM - RE: Lucid Dreaming
It's not just dreams that are reflections of the mind, but everything. And in lucid dreaming, we can learn to erase the self imposed line erected there.
e
Message 10/25 30-Sep-02 @ 08:24 PM - RE: Lucid Dreaming
neg! neg! neg!
Message 11/25 30-Sep-02 @ 09:10 PM - RE: Lucid Dreaming
her off
Message 13/25 02-Oct-02 @ 01:47 AM - RE: Lucid Dreaming
Anyone seen Waking Life?
If not, run to your nearest video store, urinate on the carpet, and rent this movie!
Message 14/25 02-Oct-02 @ 02:17 AM - RE: Lucid Dreaming
i get high in my dreams instead of real life now... for the most part. :-p
Message 15/25 02-Oct-02 @ 03:10 AM - RE: Lucid Dreaming
psylichon
Message 17/25 02-Oct-02 @ 07:27 AM - RE: Lucid Dreaming
now that i think of it, I have smoked pot in my dreams. Usually get caught. But I do get high. But when I'm thirsty, water does no good in a dream. Strange.
psylichon
Message 19/25 02-Oct-02 @ 04:52 PM - RE: Lucid Dreaming
psylichon
Message 20/25 02-Oct-02 @ 05:55 PM - RE: Lucid Dreaming
Message 21/25 02-Oct-02 @ 06:05 PM - RE: Lucid Dreaming
psylichon
Message 22/25 02-Oct-02 @ 06:26 PM - RE: Lucid Dreaming
Quenching thirst bears a great degree of symbolism for the human psyche. Unsatisfied desires and clinging to unsatisfying methods are just a pair of examples for why drinking water would not quench thrist in a dream.
Unless you're a junkie, drugs just don't carry the same weight in the subconscious mind. At least for the typical person.
Like when I walk in dreams I have no problem getting from here to there. But when I have a fight in a dream, it's like there's this terrible weight in my arms and I move real slow and my violent attempts become very exagerated and self defeating. Walking is so trivial, why waste time on it as a medium? But violence... agression, now there's an opportunity for reflection!
e
Message 23/25 02-Oct-02 @ 08:09 PM - RE: Lucid Dreaming
Message 24/25 02-Oct-02 @ 10:20 PM - RE: Lucid Dreaming
when you get high in a dream your head says "i am smoking, i am getting high, ok." but when you drink in your dream, your head asks "stomach, am i drinking anything?" your stomach says "no"
maybe next time im lucid i will try some shots...
Message 25/25 02-Oct-02 @ 11:19 PM - RE: Lucid Dreaming
The other day, I woke up in the middle of the night and decided to try projecting because being half asleep is an ideal opportunity to attempt projection - Body comfortable and rested, see?
To cut a long story short, I got the numb body sleep paralysis feeling and when I managed projection, I ended up in a monochromatic pixellated world that I just had to get out of because it was fuzzy and hard to see well in.
I'm making progress, but it's hard work. I'd like to be able to EP as well as AP and lucid dream.
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