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Original Message 1/19 11-Dec-02 @ 07:41 PM - New synth- virus, waldorf, nord...

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I'm thinking about selling my novation SN2 and I was open to any suggestions on what new synth to get. I produce electronic music a la prodigy, upbeat-portishead, cheimcal bros, crystal method type BBs.

I was looking at the Virus C, but I'm not usre if the company is so stable and I've had a problem with some companies (Quasimidi) not being so good. Any help is appreciated.

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Message 2/19 11-Dec-02 @ 09:08 PM - RE: New synth- virus, waldorf, nord...

99devils

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Well, Access' 6 month waiting list should give you some idea how viable the company is

They've released like 8 products in 4 or 5 years.

I trust 'em. And I can't say enough good stuff about my Virus.. But I'm curious... What is it about the SN that makes you want to switch? What don't you like?

-Craig

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Message 3/19 13-Dec-02 @ 12:22 PM - RE: New synth- virus, waldorf, nord...

DjMik

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Yeah, I'll buy your SN2!

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Message 4/19 13-Dec-02 @ 07:06 PM - RE: New synth- virus, waldorf, nord...

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yeah, I'll buy it too :D

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Message 5/19 13-Dec-02 @ 10:53 PM Edit: 13-Dec-02 | 10:59 PM - RE: New synth- virus, waldorf, nord...

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Look. Just get a damned Virus C. That's what I wish someone had told me at first. I was in a similar situation, and was tempted towards the Supernova II. But several fellow producers have already purchased the SNII and warned me off of it, recommending the Virus C instead. When I tested the SNII I was a little put-off by the whole thing. It wasn't at all what I was expecting (I felt that the reverb, for one, sounded absolutely terrible and there is only one filter!), so I bought the Virus C. I have not been disappointed! It would do you extremely well. Especially in creating the sounds featured by the producers/acts that you have mentioned.

And the company is extremely stable. As 99Devils stated, they have a back-log of orders (although it was only 3 months waiting for me, about the same amount of time ago, and I ended up getting my Virus within a week anyway), which doesn't happen to failing companies.

Anywho, I hope I've convinced you!

Just by a damned Virus C! It really is that simple

Steve.

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Message 6/19 13-Dec-02 @ 11:07 PM - RE: New synth- virus, waldorf, nord...

Maarten

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Yep, what Steve said + you can't compare Quasimidi with Access, nope.

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Message 7/19 14-Dec-02 @ 05:25 AM - RE: New synth- virus, waldorf, nord...

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But... remember that Virus B/C only has one global delay/reverb.. thats right u dont even get both delay reverb. Thats why i stick with my nova..
Nova sounds thin and a bit boring, but it has a great interface, and much fx on every part.
Maybe i'll buy a virus if they put in both delay and reverb in a future os.

Ive playd a bit with Virus B, and i gotto say that the interface is really slow compared to nova. But how would you C owners describe the interface of C? I know alot of guys who actually think C has even worse interface than B, is that true ?

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Message 8/19 14-Dec-02 @ 05:37 AM - RE: New synth- virus, waldorf, nord...

psylichon

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I think the Nova is more like a real analog synth. Not hyped, but really great when programmed correctly. And the SN2 does have dual filters (as well as the original S/Nova with OS4) which sound great.

I'm sure the Virus C is a badass and easier to get good sounds out of, but you can do whatever you want with the Nova series if you know what you're doing.

Just had to give respect.

psy

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Message 9/19 14-Dec-02 @ 12:00 PM Edit: 14-Dec-02 | 12:06 PM - RE: New synth- virus, waldorf, nord...

Steve Roughley

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Where's the second filter psy? I couldn't access it when I was trying it out.

The Virus C can be a bit of a pain (but only really when getting used to it) due to it's menus etc, but I find that when I am programming complicated sounds the interface design really starts to shine through. It's mod matrix is just brilliant. And you can do whatever you want with the Virus as well, although its pads don't seem as lush as the pads created by some of the Novation range.

Regards.

Steve.

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Message 10/19 14-Dec-02 @ 04:18 PM - RE: New synth- virus, waldorf, nord...

psylichon

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well on the Nova, you got a choice of low, band, high, or special buttons under the filter section. Under the special menu you get the option of several serial and parallel LPF, HPF, BPF, and notch filters with varying width, and the resonance mod now controls width. They sound really great.

psy

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Message 11/19 16-Dec-02 @ 07:50 AM - RE: New synth- virus, waldorf, nord...

queasy00

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umm... thought i'd two cent it.
the C has the eq's on it... that'd be awesome and saves you a hassle if you vary it a lot and doing a live thing.

i have a B tho, but it still makes me giddy every time.

-j
ps: access always comes out with much support via os udpates (c'mon! they went through the hassle of recoding the os to get rid of the demo song to fit more sounds!! that's commitment eh

) and helpful links (like how to make your virus sound like a moog, 303, etc.)

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Message 12/19 16-Dec-02 @ 02:34 PM - RE: New synth- virus, waldorf, nord...

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I appreciate all the info, but I'll stick to the SN2 for a little longer and I guess if I want the Virus I'll just buy the rack.

I've been spending a lot more time with the SN2 and I've been getting some good sounds out of it. I have the Karma and the Nord Modular also, but I can't break them out because of my limited space at the moment and this is why I've been on the SN2 a lot more. Thanx!

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Message 13/19 16-Dec-02 @ 02:45 PM - RE: New synth- virus, waldorf, nord...

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You let $4k in synths sit because of lack of space? I wish I had the problems some of you people are having.. My two-thousand-dollar synth sucks. I'm gonna spend another two thou but I don't want another synth that sucks

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But... remember that Virus B/C only has one global delay/reverb.. thats right u dont even get both delay reverb. Thats why i stick with my nova.. Nova sounds thin and a bit boring, but it has a great interface, and much fx on every part. Maybe i'll buy a virus if they put in both delay and reverb in a future os.

Dude, that's what software is for. FUCK the built in effects. Although because of spec-junkies I can buy all the Nord Leads I want for pretty much nothing. Thanks to everyone who cares about how many delays the synth has and not how good the damn thing sounds as a synth.

-Craig

Sorry about the rant, I'm trying to quit smoking.

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Message 14/19 17-Dec-02 @ 02:29 AM - RE: New synth- virus, waldorf, nord...

anon med student

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unless you smoke a pack a day for 15 years, (on average) thats 109,500 cigs, you really wont start to develop early lung cancer symptoms. Some people it takes anywhere between 25-30

=)

Enjoy yourself why you can and just for the love of god don't smoke in your studio and plan to sell your gear

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Message 15/19 17-Dec-02 @ 06:20 AM - RE: New synth- virus, waldorf, nord...

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Yeah pretty much right now all the room I have is for my MPC 4000, my SN2, a mixer, two compressors, and my computer- what a drag!

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Message 16/19 17-Dec-02 @ 06:50 AM - RE: New synth- virus, waldorf, nord...

psylichon

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You can make whatever the hell you want with that setup. Sell the rest and invest in your computer/sw

psy

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Message 17/19 17-Dec-02 @ 11:53 PM - RE: New synth- virus, waldorf, nord...

errata

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You better live in a car! Jesus I'd prop that Nord modular on my head if I had to!

I love onboard effects!!! But Craig's right, it's the engine that should drive the purchase and effects if it's still a toss up. Honestly I don't think the novation engine and the virus engine are even comparable... They're VERY different sounding... both have extreme personality! and you can do anything you want on either beyond that!

hey, that Nord Modular can do the work of the SN and the virus... get it out of it's exile! And, um... get a Waldorf Q if you need another synth!

e

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Message 18/19 18-Dec-02 @ 05:33 AM - RE: New synth- virus, waldorf, nord...

brett

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get a virus A or B, and run it through an electro harmonics micro synth, and maybe a pod. you should do just fine at getting those sounds you are looking for. i have used the supernova, and the waldorf. the virus is a keeper, and on it's own capable of some pretty griity stuff, but using pedals and the processors i mentioned will help a lot at getting big beat sounds. the noavtion and waldorf left too much to be desired. nord is great, but polyphony is a major issue for me with that synth. only four part multi as well.

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Message 19/19 29-Dec-02 @ 05:59 PM - RE: New synth- virus, waldorf, nord...

Breakerbox

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Stop telling the guy get more synths I think he needs to sell some.. WTF man? He can get sounds he wants out of nova, Nord modular and Karma... He doesnt need more... if he cant get the sound of that setup someway.. (run the nova filters thru the Nord modular.. add fx.. sample to mpc play it back to nova.. reverse it stretch it.. chop it to 128ths, resample it add fx to it resamople it.. the list goes on..)May be he should learn to use your gear...i dont know man.

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