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Original Message 1/20 03-Mar-03 @ 07:34 PM - dumb about digital mixers
could e.g. the 01v be used as a combination powered plug-in/control surface? i.e. could individual mixer channels in reason be routed through the efx inside the 01v, like routing multiple channels to an aux send on the mackie 1202 (only mixer I've really used). or would I need a more sophisticated rewire host to do this?
about the motorized faders, do you just assign a fader to a particular mixer channel in reason (or logic) and it responds accordingly?
basically, I'm wondering of the 01v would let me mix tracks in reason (and logic if YOU pulaski ever get it togther) with real faders and a nice reverb. I have a slow 400 Mhz Mac that doesn't run reverb plugins too well so I'm curious about outboard. I use a 2408 MkII so I know I have digital i/o capability though I dunno much about them. TIA
Message 2/20 03-Mar-03 @ 08:33 PM Edit: 03-Mar-03 | 08:33 PM - RE: dumb about digital mixers
Message 3/20 03-Mar-03 @ 09:28 PM - RE: dumb about digital mixers
I've kind of found it to be more hassle than it's worth, in terms of using the mixer for processing, because you only have the 8 digital channels. I've thought about getting an analog I/O card to go along with my ADAT card, but have not done so. If you could get at least 16 channels into the mixer digitally I'd say it'd be perfect for what you're asking, but 8 channels digital is a little limiting.
I use it mostly as a "live" mixer when I'm working on things in the studio, then when I've got things sounding right I just strip off the channels I want and dump them into the PC. I sometimes use it for effects if I'm running out of juice (the distortion is great on vocals).
Let me know if there's any other ?'s I can answer for you.
-Craig
Message 4/20 03-Mar-03 @ 10:51 PM - RE: dumb about digital mixers
how about a UAD-1? does it work on macs?
Message 5/20 04-Mar-03 @ 02:46 PM - RE: dumb about digital mixers
Message 6/20 04-Mar-03 @ 04:28 PM - RE: dumb about digital mixers
I was thinking about the uad-1, but figured if I could get a motorized control surface with it, that would be better. if the reverb on the 01v is like the RS7k, forget it. I guess I'll end up with a cheap midi fader box and a UAD-1/and or a fast PC. I'm so comfortable using pre-prepared sounds in reason but that reverb is just killing me.
Message 7/20 04-Mar-03 @ 05:14 PM - RE: dumb about digital mixers
you asked if mixdown would include channels sent to the O1v.
If you mean by using the mixdown function in cubase, then no.
what you would have to do is either send all the channels from cubase to the 01v and mix OUT of it (say through SPDIF or whatever) or just submix your 8adat sends back into cubase..
to be honest, for what you want to do...Id get a controller. Far more assignable. The o1v is gonna be limited in what it will do.
I havent touched one but theres the new Evolution controller for a fair price
oh, and UAD-1 rocks
Message 8/20 04-Mar-03 @ 05:31 PM - RE: dumb about digital mixers
it just ends up being a big external box.
Message 9/20 04-Mar-03 @ 05:58 PM - RE: dumb about digital mixers
Message 10/20 05-Mar-03 @ 12:07 PM - RE: dumb about digital mixers
Message 11/20 05-Mar-03 @ 12:15 PM - RE: dumb about digital mixers
What do peps think?
Message 12/20 07-Mar-03 @ 02:34 PM - RE: dumb about digital mixers
I mix in the PC, but sometimes use it for effects, or as a submixer (drums on 1 and 2, guitars on 3 and 4, synths on 5 and 6, vox on 7 and 8, thaT kind of thing)
Message 13/20 12-Mar-03 @ 04:57 AM - RE: dumb about digital mixers
And by the way, how has everyone been?
Message 14/20 12-Mar-03 @ 03:34 PM - RE: dumb about digital mixers
I can think of at least 4 people on this site that would say you're talking out your ass.
-Craig
Message 15/20 12-Mar-03 @ 03:55 PM - RE: dumb about digital mixers
where ya been brett, been missing your rants
Message 16/20 12-Mar-03 @ 09:08 PM - RE: dumb about digital mixers
Message 17/20 12-Mar-03 @ 09:21 PM - RE: dumb about digital mixers
IT ALL GOES TO 16bit anyway
as for the O1v sound..well...
Message 18/20 12-Mar-03 @ 10:12 PM - RE: dumb about digital mixers
Too much time dinkin around on a 1202 and 8 inputs on my 1010... Having a load of analog ins plus the 8 ADAT i/o and option of another has me frothing at the mouth. Gonna be the first time ever I can get everything in my studio on one board.
Can't freaking wait!
Message 19/20 13-Mar-03 @ 01:35 AM - RE: dumb about digital mixers
as for me talking out my ass, well you shuld listen up, cause my ass is right! just take any decent recording and run the digital outs from your sound card to the o1v, and then monitor out from the analog outs on the o1v. listen a bit, then hook the amp directly up to the sound card analog outs, or in my case the digital outs to my ds90's. any good 24 bit capable card should have a more open sound, and cleaner more audible lows. and I don't mean 24 bit capable with 20 bit ad like the yamaha dsp factory.
Ever wonder why people here are always asking how do i get that pro sound? quit using lowend tracking equiptment! That is one example of why Reason can give great results. there is no tracking in the process to ruin it with an o1v.
as for Reason, my freind just sent me a cd he did with it. The quality of the sound is as good as any premastered music I have heard, and with some minor changes he is gonna get this stuff released. he licensed one of the track to a dvd production. 100% reason....
Message 20/20 13-Mar-03 @ 02:26 PM - RE: dumb about digital mixers
The 01V has a "sound" yes. You may not like it. But it is NOT technically inferior/superior, just a matter of preference.
-Craig
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