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Original Message 1/25 16-Mar-03 @ 08:34 PM - Egypt Jails Gay Men

Martin S.

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The world really has to look at human rights in Islamic countries. They are so backwards in their thinking.

Ironic as it were, many of the middle-eastern men are gay, but of course, only in private.

Who's business is it wheather I love another man or not?

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Message 2/25 16-Mar-03 @ 09:17 PM - RE: Egypt Jails Gay Men

cheddar

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"They are so backwards in their thinking. "

anyone

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Message 3/25 16-Mar-03 @ 11:42 PM Edit: 16-Mar-03 | 11:43 PM - RE: Egypt Jails Gay Men

Zazza

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Unlike the US Catholic church, which bans homosexuality, marriage for priests, abortion and birth control but is quite happy to turn a blind eye to the sexual abuse of young boys and girls by it's own officials..

These christian countries really do need to get their heads out of their own arses don't you think?

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Message 4/25 17-Mar-03 @ 12:35 AM - RE: Egypt Jails Gay Men

R.A.T.

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Thats religion, politics and sex all in the same thread.

Talk about getting all the taboos out of the way.

Now how about a nice game of Trivial Pursuit ?

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Message 5/25 17-Mar-03 @ 12:46 AM - RE: Egypt Jails Gay Men

steve

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'keep a candle burning for him'.

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Message 6/25 17-Mar-03 @ 12:49 AM - RE: Egypt Jails Gay Men

Martin S.

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Ehh Steve?

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Message 7/25 17-Mar-03 @ 04:27 AM - RE: Egypt Jails Gay Men

man called clay

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it seems anywhere you find religion of any great magnitude....rational thinking and scientific inquiry kinda go out the window. it's why and how warlike mentalities and politics go so hand-in-hand. one ignorant hand washing the other....bathing in it's own sense of righteousness and usually a fair degree of blood and hatred for something....just name it.

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Message 8/25 17-Mar-03 @ 08:36 AM - RE: Egypt Jails Gay Men

cheddar

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I just love that story about some US software company in the eighties that developed a program to work out why you have done something AFTER you had done it.

Story goes the US military bought up the whole thing ($m's) and the idea has never been heard of since..,-)

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Message 9/25 17-Mar-03 @ 10:44 AM - RE: Egypt Jails Gay Men

Filthy McNasty

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LOL @ Cheddar.

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Message 10/25 17-Mar-03 @ 03:15 PM - RE: Egypt Jails Gay Men

BJT

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F*ck man, why don't you go and settle the injustice down the end of your street instead of scrutinizing foreign countries.

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Message 11/25 17-Mar-03 @ 03:19 PM - RE: Egypt Jails Gay Men

cheddar

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Because some foreign countries have a habit of coming down my street

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Message 12/25 17-Mar-03 @ 03:38 PM - RE: Egypt Jails a big cuddly Gay Men

BJT

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Fair enough then, I'll leave you at it.

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Message 13/25 17-Mar-03 @ 05:12 PM - RE: Egypt Jails Gay Men

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"Unlike the US Catholic church, which bans homosexuality, marriage for priests, abortion and birth control but is quite happy to turn a blind eye to the sexual abuse of young boys and girls by it's own officials.. "

That's why it's a good thing we're not ruled by any church in the west.

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These christian countries really do need to get their heads out of their own arses don't you think?

Not in this case: we're not jailing gays but we're sending those priests to jail.

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Message 14/25 17-Mar-03 @ 05:25 PM - RE: Egypt Jails Gay Men

Conscience

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"Because some foreign countries have a habit of coming down my street"

Expand please...

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Message 15/25 17-Mar-03 @ 06:23 PM - RE: Egypt Jails Gay Men

cheddar

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Where you from C?

I had this gentle friend from Korea, Japan stole his history and he was angry, because they had done terrible things in the past and had re-written the history

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Message 16/25 18-Mar-03 @ 05:43 AM - RE: Egypt Jails Gay Men

BJT

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Okay, Chedder, its no joke that Egypt has been plagued with Islamic Fundamentalism for sometime, infact that's where Al Queda started.

But the chances of your country becoming an islamic state are one of zero or nil. The reason is because people in these countries are poor and well educated and are in a hopeless state, the poverty is so bad they turn to religion for hope.

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Message 17/25 18-Mar-03 @ 05:59 AM - RE: Egypt Jails Gay Men

Martin S.

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Aye Bastiaan....Zazza cannot spin reality.

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Message 18/25 18-Mar-03 @ 06:26 AM - RE: Egypt Jails Gay Men

cheddar

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BJT tell me it's not oil then tell me about the richest nations greed being an acceptable reason for this, the resulting polarization and more treror / trerorists / arms and anger in the world, I dare you.

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Message 19/25 18-Mar-03 @ 08:12 AM - RE: Egypt Jails Gay Men

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Nice sign on the news of the protests:

The war on Iraq is terrorism with a bigger budget.

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Message 20/25 18-Mar-03 @ 09:17 AM - RE: Egypt Jails Gay Men

cheddar

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Caught an issue of Doonsbury strip where they said that there was no funding for re building Afganistan - this true?

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Message 21/25 18-Mar-03 @ 11:43 AM - RE: Egypt Jails Gay Men

Zazza

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yup, they ain't paying up..

Afghanistan will fall to bits again.. no-ones really interested.. they all growing opium again to make ends meet.. warlords ruling outside kabul, same ole same ole shit

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Message 22/25 18-Mar-03 @ 06:40 PM - RE: Egypt Jails Gay Men

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In America, unless you live in a few select cities, It is culturaly criminal to be gay! Homosexuals are beaten, killed, raped etc all over the US. Young queers have to move away from their hometowns and disconnect from their families in order to live the lifestyle they were BORN to. Why? Because christian ideals are so deeply rooted in American culture that Americans who see themselves as not being religious still carry the attitudes of that religion!

If you think we do not live in a christian society, try practicing a religion that is not Judeo/christian in Amerca! You're "allowed" to but the attitudes of the people define the culture, and trust me, most non-christian religions must practice in relative secrecy!

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Message 23/25 18-Mar-03 @ 07:36 PM - RE: Egypt Jails Gay Men

Martin S.

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errrata,

Your post has nothing to do with topic. Gay men are JAILED in egypt, not in America.

Queers are beaten all over the world less you've forgotten.

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Message 24/25 18-Mar-03 @ 09:46 PM - RE: Egypt Jails Gay Men

BJT

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Yeah but Egypts judiciary system is better.

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Message 25/25 18-Mar-03 @ 10:01 PM - RE: Egypt Jails Gay Men

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I suppose I've tired of your not so subtle Muslim bashing Martin, and chose to answer your Bullsh+t rather than the issue I think you care very little for.

You see, it;s my take that you started this post to bash on Muslims and their "backward" thinking (They are so backwards in their thinking) rather than to have a discussion about how bad it is to beat up on gay people...

sorry if I mistrust your motives. But your approach has the veneer of gentleness with the teeth of violence.

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