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Subject: Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
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Original Message 1/24 06-May-03 @ 09:57 AM - Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
So, the figures are just in. According to Prime Distibution, Dance music vinyl sales are down 38% during april 02 to april 03. That's over a third. I'm a bit worried.
I knew we would get to a stage when programs like Reason would come out. The overall quality of dance music has gone up. Everybody is capable of making semi-decent tracks, even with a very limited musical knowledge. Everyone can make a drum track and master it well enough for a CDR burn routine. Then just mail it to your favourite DJ, right?
WRONG!!! Its killing us. The amount of tracks coming out that is just layers of drums/loops with a "siney" style bass line is scary. Have we reached the end of the 15 year cycle?
I mean if you look back at the history of music, right from the 1920's, there was a new style coming out every 10 years. You can chart it all. For example, lets say that Punk was in 79, dance was in 89, blah blah blah (you get the idea). Well what new style has come out in 1999/2000/2001/2002. Nothing has cos we've reached the end of the musical time line. Its over boys. It was fun but its over. Looks like we're all making Tech Songs now.
I don't want to sound bitter or twisted but really, this is it. Still dance music and the whole 1987 - 2003 thing is something to tell our kids and something to look back on with our mates.
All The Best,
A Raver/Music Lover/Dreamer
I knew we would get to a stage when programs like Reason would come out. The overall quality of dance music has gone up. Everybody is capable of making semi-decent tracks, even with a very limited musical knowledge. Everyone can make a drum track and master it well enough for a CDR burn routine. Then just mail it to your favourite DJ, right?
WRONG!!! Its killing us. The amount of tracks coming out that is just layers of drums/loops with a "siney" style bass line is scary. Have we reached the end of the 15 year cycle?
I mean if you look back at the history of music, right from the 1920's, there was a new style coming out every 10 years. You can chart it all. For example, lets say that Punk was in 79, dance was in 89, blah blah blah (you get the idea). Well what new style has come out in 1999/2000/2001/2002. Nothing has cos we've reached the end of the musical time line. Its over boys. It was fun but its over. Looks like we're all making Tech Songs now.
I don't want to sound bitter or twisted but really, this is it. Still dance music and the whole 1987 - 2003 thing is something to tell our kids and something to look back on with our mates.
All The Best,
A Raver/Music Lover/Dreamer
Message 2/24 06-May-03 @ 10:29 AM - RE: Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
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"Nothing has cos we've reached the end of the musical time line. Its over boys. It was fun but its over. Looks like we're all making Tech Songs now."
Ever so slightly pesimistic. It's really not all that bad. I am constantly finding new sounds that continue to exite my musical palette. Maybe you need to start seeking out other styles of electronic music.
Regards.
Steve.
Ever so slightly pesimistic. It's really not all that bad. I am constantly finding new sounds that continue to exite my musical palette. Maybe you need to start seeking out other styles of electronic music.
Regards.
Steve.
Message 3/24 06-May-03 @ 10:29 AM - RE: Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
1999 DIY music
Like the guy who owns the record shop looking at down books, what to do? Blame DT?
the problem is getting paid for it. There was a post about Asia forgeting sales revenue and the artist living from PA's. This could be a model - except in the UK /US where spoons can land you in jail
I think the internet and making a site where you can create value from popularity is an answer. I hope so, cos i try to save he butt of my favourite record shop guy this way
Like the guy who owns the record shop looking at down books, what to do? Blame DT?
the problem is getting paid for it. There was a post about Asia forgeting sales revenue and the artist living from PA's. This could be a model - except in the UK /US where spoons can land you in jail
I think the internet and making a site where you can create value from popularity is an answer. I hope so, cos i try to save he butt of my favourite record shop guy this way
Message 4/24 06-May-03 @ 10:58 AM - RE: Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
Hmmmm. So the future of dance music is the internet?!?
What, we all make music on our computers, post the track up on our site, and charge DJ's £1 to download it onto their laptops which they use to play out in clubs?
Yea saw Chris Cowie do that and it was shit. Heard Ritchie Hawtin do it and it was poo. The sound of MP3's is complete rubbish. Vinyl sounds quite a bit better.
Maybe we should resign ourselves to the fact that probably 95% of us will only ever do music as a hobby. I'm taliking about making a decent living NOT £12,000 a year. I mean I was chatting to a pair of producers who are called Rythmn Plate at the weekend. They have been releasing decent house tracks since 1998. Hell, even a couple of the choons from last year made 2 DJ 2002 end of year charts in DJ magazine. They are still in their local government jobs of £8,000 a year!!! They were saying that they just ain't gettin paid that much per release to be able to do it full time. Plus their tracks are really good. All I'm saying is that maybe we should just look at Dance Music now in a "hobby" light and just concentrate on being "weekend players".
Damn it, I'm worried I tell you!
Ps - god, this post makes me sound like some bitter jack. But, I'm not honest!
What, we all make music on our computers, post the track up on our site, and charge DJ's £1 to download it onto their laptops which they use to play out in clubs?
Yea saw Chris Cowie do that and it was shit. Heard Ritchie Hawtin do it and it was poo. The sound of MP3's is complete rubbish. Vinyl sounds quite a bit better.
Maybe we should resign ourselves to the fact that probably 95% of us will only ever do music as a hobby. I'm taliking about making a decent living NOT £12,000 a year. I mean I was chatting to a pair of producers who are called Rythmn Plate at the weekend. They have been releasing decent house tracks since 1998. Hell, even a couple of the choons from last year made 2 DJ 2002 end of year charts in DJ magazine. They are still in their local government jobs of £8,000 a year!!! They were saying that they just ain't gettin paid that much per release to be able to do it full time. Plus their tracks are really good. All I'm saying is that maybe we should just look at Dance Music now in a "hobby" light and just concentrate on being "weekend players".
Damn it, I'm worried I tell you!
Ps - god, this post makes me sound like some bitter jack. But, I'm not honest!
Message 5/24 06-May-03 @ 11:15 AM - RE: Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
Hi Witch,
My two cents worth - With the advent of MP3 and the internet music is readily available to all for virtually nothing, hence EMI being the first to put commercial music from well known artists up.
This doesnt detract from what we are doing, far from it, it actually opens things up for us, more people listening to our music because it appeals to them. Once people find an artist that they like, they hang on to them and pursue their output.
Think of it as a new dawn my friend. None of us are going to make it big time and own huge mansions, helicopters and the rest but what we are going to do is touch the lives of our listeners, who may only number in the hundreds.
Isnt it better to enrich one person's life rather than no-ones?
My two cents worth - With the advent of MP3 and the internet music is readily available to all for virtually nothing, hence EMI being the first to put commercial music from well known artists up.
This doesnt detract from what we are doing, far from it, it actually opens things up for us, more people listening to our music because it appeals to them. Once people find an artist that they like, they hang on to them and pursue their output.
Think of it as a new dawn my friend. None of us are going to make it big time and own huge mansions, helicopters and the rest but what we are going to do is touch the lives of our listeners, who may only number in the hundreds.
Isnt it better to enrich one person's life rather than no-ones?
Message 6/24 06-May-03 @ 11:25 AM - RE: Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
% figures can be so easily arranged to prove various points tho surely? - take political polls as an example - like if total output of dance 12" vinyl has increased over the last 10 years a smaller percentage sold this year might be a healthy year from further back? - Rather than look at percentage 'drops' I'd rather see annual total sales for the last 10 years as a qualifier
Message 7/24 06-May-03 @ 11:35 AM - RE: Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
S'true K. But I'm not sure why someone working in vinyl distribution would rubbish his own job. That's all. I think he scared too.
Message 8/24 06-May-03 @ 12:54 PM - RE: Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
Worried Witch, Remember this ?
Close your eyes and go back in time...Before the Internet...Before
semi-automatics, joyriders and crack....Before X-Box, SEGA or Super
Nintendo ...
Way back ........ I'm talking about Hide and Seek in the park.
The corner shop. Hopscotch. Butterscotch. Skipping. Handstands.
Football an old can. Fingerbob. Beano, Dandy, Buster, Twinkle and
Dennis the menace.
Roly Poly. Hula Hoops, jumping the stream, building dams. The smell
of the sun
and fresh cut grass. Bazooka Joe bubble gum. An ice cream cone on a
warm
summer night from the van that plays a tune Chocolate or vanilla or
strawberry or maybe Neapolitan or perhaps a screwball.
Watching Saturday morning cartoons, short commercials or the flicks.
Childrens Film Foundation, The Double Deckers, Red Hand Gang, The
Tomorrow
People, Tiswas or Swapshop?, and 'Why Don't You'? - or staying up
for
Doctor Who.
When around the corner seemed far away and going into town seemed
like
going somewhere. Earwigs, wasps, stinging nettles and bee stings.
White dog poo.
Sticky fingers. Playing Marbles. Ball bearings. Big 'uns and Little
'uns.
Cops and Robbers, Cowboys and Indians, and Zorro. Climbing trees.
Building
igloos out of snow banks.
Walking to school, no matter what the weather. Running till you were
out of
breath, laughing so hard that your stomach hurt. Jumping on the bed.
Pillow
fights. Spinning around, getting dizzy and falling down was cause
for
giggles. Being tired from playing....remember that?
The worst embarrassment was being picked last for a team. Water
balloons
were the ultimate weapon. Football cards in the spokes transformed
any bike
into a motorcycle. Choppers and Grifters. Eating raw jelly. Orange
squash
ice pops.
Remember when...There were two types of trainers - girls and boys,
and
Dunlop Green flash - and the only time you wore them at school was
for P.E.
You knew everyone in your street - and so did your parents. It
wasn't odd
to have two or three "best" friends. You didn't sleep a wink on
Christmas
eve.
When nobody owned a pure-bred dog, 25p was decent pocket money,
Curly
Whirlys. Space Dust. Toffo's. Top Trumps. You'd reach into a muddy
gutter
for a penny.
Nearly everyone's mum was at home when the kids got there. Any
parent could
discipline any kid, or feed him or use him to carry groceries and
nobody,
not even the kid, thought a thing of it.
When being sent to the head's office was nothing compared to the
fate that
awaited a misbehaving student at home. Basically, we were in fear
for our
lives but it wasn't because of drive-by shootings, drugs, gangs etc.
Parents and grandparents were a much bigger threat! and some of us
are
still afraid of them.
Remember when .... Decisions were made by going " Ip Dip Dog sh!t ".
"Race issue" meant arguing about who ran the fastest. Money issues
were
handled by whoever was the banker in "Monopoly". The worst thing you
could
catch from the opposite sex was germs. And the worst thing in your
day was
having to sit next to one.
It was unbelievable that 'British Bulldog' wasn't an Olympic event.
Having a weapon in school, meant being caught with a catapult.
Nobody was
prettier than Mum. Scrapes and bruises were kissed and made better.
Taking
drugs meant orange-flavoured chewable aspirin. Ice cream was
considered
a basic food group.
Getting a foot of snow was a dream come true. Older siblings were
the worst
tormentors, but also the fiercest protectors.
If you can remember most or all of these, then you have LIVED. Pass
this on
to anyone who may need a break from their "grown up" life...
"I DOUBLE-DARE YOU"
Close your eyes and go back in time...Before the Internet...Before
semi-automatics, joyriders and crack....Before X-Box, SEGA or Super
Nintendo ...
Way back ........ I'm talking about Hide and Seek in the park.
The corner shop. Hopscotch. Butterscotch. Skipping. Handstands.
Football an old can. Fingerbob. Beano, Dandy, Buster, Twinkle and
Dennis the menace.
Roly Poly. Hula Hoops, jumping the stream, building dams. The smell
of the sun
and fresh cut grass. Bazooka Joe bubble gum. An ice cream cone on a
warm
summer night from the van that plays a tune Chocolate or vanilla or
strawberry or maybe Neapolitan or perhaps a screwball.
Watching Saturday morning cartoons, short commercials or the flicks.
Childrens Film Foundation, The Double Deckers, Red Hand Gang, The
Tomorrow
People, Tiswas or Swapshop?, and 'Why Don't You'? - or staying up
for
Doctor Who.
When around the corner seemed far away and going into town seemed
like
going somewhere. Earwigs, wasps, stinging nettles and bee stings.
White dog poo.
Sticky fingers. Playing Marbles. Ball bearings. Big 'uns and Little
'uns.
Cops and Robbers, Cowboys and Indians, and Zorro. Climbing trees.
Building
igloos out of snow banks.
Walking to school, no matter what the weather. Running till you were
out of
breath, laughing so hard that your stomach hurt. Jumping on the bed.
Pillow
fights. Spinning around, getting dizzy and falling down was cause
for
giggles. Being tired from playing....remember that?
The worst embarrassment was being picked last for a team. Water
balloons
were the ultimate weapon. Football cards in the spokes transformed
any bike
into a motorcycle. Choppers and Grifters. Eating raw jelly. Orange
squash
ice pops.
Remember when...There were two types of trainers - girls and boys,
and
Dunlop Green flash - and the only time you wore them at school was
for P.E.
You knew everyone in your street - and so did your parents. It
wasn't odd
to have two or three "best" friends. You didn't sleep a wink on
Christmas
eve.
When nobody owned a pure-bred dog, 25p was decent pocket money,
Curly
Whirlys. Space Dust. Toffo's. Top Trumps. You'd reach into a muddy
gutter
for a penny.
Nearly everyone's mum was at home when the kids got there. Any
parent could
discipline any kid, or feed him or use him to carry groceries and
nobody,
not even the kid, thought a thing of it.
When being sent to the head's office was nothing compared to the
fate that
awaited a misbehaving student at home. Basically, we were in fear
for our
lives but it wasn't because of drive-by shootings, drugs, gangs etc.
Parents and grandparents were a much bigger threat! and some of us
are
still afraid of them.
Remember when .... Decisions were made by going " Ip Dip Dog sh!t ".
"Race issue" meant arguing about who ran the fastest. Money issues
were
handled by whoever was the banker in "Monopoly". The worst thing you
could
catch from the opposite sex was germs. And the worst thing in your
day was
having to sit next to one.
It was unbelievable that 'British Bulldog' wasn't an Olympic event.
Having a weapon in school, meant being caught with a catapult.
Nobody was
prettier than Mum. Scrapes and bruises were kissed and made better.
Taking
drugs meant orange-flavoured chewable aspirin. Ice cream was
considered
a basic food group.
Getting a foot of snow was a dream come true. Older siblings were
the worst
tormentors, but also the fiercest protectors.
If you can remember most or all of these, then you have LIVED. Pass
this on
to anyone who may need a break from their "grown up" life...
"I DOUBLE-DARE YOU"
Message 10/24 06-May-03 @ 03:53 PM - RE: Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
it's like this....neon polka-dotted bell-bottoms are no longer quite as in as they used to be. and so now....as with many things.....large space consuming and vastly over-priced bits of plastic which often contain questionable material are now finding themselves less in-vogue than say.....two years ago. only dj's seemed to be able to afford vinyl and how many mixes do your really need and how do we know which is the one we wanted anyways?
the vinyl 12" format is dying for a reason. sure....it'll always be here for those who can afford to produce it and buy it....but....
that just ain't most of us anymore.
and i always felt that those who kept their regular jobs had more interesting music.....
much of the time...rather than those who become so isolated and forgetful what it meant for those of us who have to work....are feeling when we plop down on some of the same-old drivel. no wonder we wanna roll our own.
and that's not to say all vinyl is bad. but you're gonna have to get tough. real tough.
the vinyl 12" format is dying for a reason. sure....it'll always be here for those who can afford to produce it and buy it....but....
that just ain't most of us anymore.
and i always felt that those who kept their regular jobs had more interesting music.....
much of the time...rather than those who become so isolated and forgetful what it meant for those of us who have to work....are feeling when we plop down on some of the same-old drivel. no wonder we wanna roll our own.
and that's not to say all vinyl is bad. but you're gonna have to get tough. real tough.
Message 11/24 06-May-03 @ 06:24 PM - RE: Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
maybe people should stop thinking they are "owed" a "living" for their "art"
jeez. could I put any more quotes around things?
jeez. could I put any more quotes around things?
Message 12/24 06-May-03 @ 07:27 PM Edit: 06-May-03 | 09:46 PM - RE: Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
Filthy and Influx may be on to something.
Remember when music was a cottage industry with regional hits? Neither do I but this pre-rock-n-roll paradigm is a historical fact. Think the scene in, "O' Brother Where Art Thou", where our three heroes record their tune. In America at least, that scene played out across the country, particularly in the east where bluegrass was paving the way for country music's popularity. Is the dance music community so above ground that such polls can be seen as accurate? Maybe that's the real problem. Maybe its time for the dance community to take a step backward in order to take a step forward. Wasn't "Chime" recorded in a bedroom (along with the rest of the first CD)?
Anyone remember the DIY ethos?
I've brought this up before but I'll reiterate that performing live will become more important for electronic musicians. Initially styles would evolve based upon the limitations inherent in the available gear used for live performance. If this becomes a significant movement within the electronic community, gear manufacturers will acknowledge the issues of those playing live on a larger scale than they currently do and market more gear designed to address the technological challenges of live electronic music.
I don't think the era of dance music is over BUT the era of the DJ may be giving way to the era of the live electronic "band". Its been happening below the radar for a few years now as evidenced by a few of our DT brethren who have braved the live electronic music minefields. Taking what they and others have done one step further, imagine six synth players and a couple of drummers (one acoustic, one electronic?), all or at least a few who can sing playing at local clubs, regional universities and locally distributing their DIY singles to DJs at traditional dance clubs and their DIY CDs to college radio stations and "locals only" commercial radio jocks.
When vacation time comes along our intrepid octet load up into a van and end embark on a DIY tour of a larger part of the country over a summer. They do interviews on college radio stations, play in every dive they can find, sell CDs and singles at the same dives, sleep on the floors of people they meet at shows, and after its all over they come home, return to their jobs and plan the next tour all in the hopes of developing a larger audience.
The above band situation should sound familiar to anyone who has ever been involved in the punk scene. The next step in the whole DIY recording thing is DIY touring. The punk community has known this for two decades, "Book Your Own #@&*!%! Life" was required punk rock, DIY touring, research material for years when Tim Yo was in charge of MRR. The grassroots nature of the punk scene has created a situation in the states whereby its nearly impossible to cite a lack of opportunity for a DIY tour. Perhaps the electronic music community needs to develop a similar model based around live performance and grassroots networking.
Remember when music was a cottage industry with regional hits? Neither do I but this pre-rock-n-roll paradigm is a historical fact. Think the scene in, "O' Brother Where Art Thou", where our three heroes record their tune. In America at least, that scene played out across the country, particularly in the east where bluegrass was paving the way for country music's popularity. Is the dance music community so above ground that such polls can be seen as accurate? Maybe that's the real problem. Maybe its time for the dance community to take a step backward in order to take a step forward. Wasn't "Chime" recorded in a bedroom (along with the rest of the first CD)?
Anyone remember the DIY ethos?
I've brought this up before but I'll reiterate that performing live will become more important for electronic musicians. Initially styles would evolve based upon the limitations inherent in the available gear used for live performance. If this becomes a significant movement within the electronic community, gear manufacturers will acknowledge the issues of those playing live on a larger scale than they currently do and market more gear designed to address the technological challenges of live electronic music.
I don't think the era of dance music is over BUT the era of the DJ may be giving way to the era of the live electronic "band". Its been happening below the radar for a few years now as evidenced by a few of our DT brethren who have braved the live electronic music minefields. Taking what they and others have done one step further, imagine six synth players and a couple of drummers (one acoustic, one electronic?), all or at least a few who can sing playing at local clubs, regional universities and locally distributing their DIY singles to DJs at traditional dance clubs and their DIY CDs to college radio stations and "locals only" commercial radio jocks.
When vacation time comes along our intrepid octet load up into a van and end embark on a DIY tour of a larger part of the country over a summer. They do interviews on college radio stations, play in every dive they can find, sell CDs and singles at the same dives, sleep on the floors of people they meet at shows, and after its all over they come home, return to their jobs and plan the next tour all in the hopes of developing a larger audience.
The above band situation should sound familiar to anyone who has ever been involved in the punk scene. The next step in the whole DIY recording thing is DIY touring. The punk community has known this for two decades, "Book Your Own #@&*!%! Life" was required punk rock, DIY touring, research material for years when Tim Yo was in charge of MRR. The grassroots nature of the punk scene has created a situation in the states whereby its nearly impossible to cite a lack of opportunity for a DIY tour. Perhaps the electronic music community needs to develop a similar model based around live performance and grassroots networking.
Message 13/24 06-May-03 @ 09:01 PM - RE: Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
"I've brought this up before but I'll reiterate that performing live will become more important for electronic musicians"
actually...that was some guy named rhyze>
actually...that was some guy named rhyze>
Message 14/24 06-May-03 @ 09:40 PM - RE: Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
Darn you meddling kids.
I'm bored with the whole handle thing, after ten years on the net, "rhyze" has been laid to rest.
I'm bored with the whole handle thing, after ten years on the net, "rhyze" has been laid to rest.
Message 15/24 06-May-03 @ 10:21 PM - RE: Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
but not the bike...right?
and definitely not the mic~
head west my man>
and definitely not the mic~
head west my man>
Message 16/24 06-May-03 @ 11:27 PM - RE: Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
Never the bike and the West is in my future, probably Glendale to start because its relatively reasonable rent-wise. Researching real estate and having gone camping there in 2001, Big Bear looks like a pretty cool place to live. Maybe get a small apartment or become a "roomate in absentia" down in LA when I'm not working on a show. I've gotta wait till the next movie comes along to finance the move though. Considering how dry Georgia has been with regard to movies, that could be some time next year. My buddy Brendan moved there early last fall, recently got into the union (695), and is doing well so I take that a good sign.
Sigh...
I could sell my gear to finance it I guess.
Yikes! Very scary thought.
Sigh...
I could sell my gear to finance it I guess.
Yikes! Very scary thought.
Message 17/24 06-May-03 @ 11:58 PM - RE: Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
oh dude why the fuck would you come to LA? NO NO NO NO NO! Youll turn into yet another useless academic who thinks that somehow he is rebelling while doing little more to further the cause of shallowism!
DONT DO IT! THE POWER IS TOO STRONG!
DONT DO IT! THE POWER IS TOO STRONG!
Message 18/24 07-May-03 @ 12:03 AM - RE: Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
i'm overlooking mexico.....
i never got to LA unless it's to take my european friends to disneyland or.....to see the river channel.
perhaps the greatest graffiti exhibition in the world.
i never got to LA unless it's to take my european friends to disneyland or.....to see the river channel.
perhaps the greatest graffiti exhibition in the world.
Message 19/24 07-May-03 @ 12:45 AM - RE: Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
and a wonderful testament to bourgeoise opulence no less!
Message 20/24 07-May-03 @ 01:16 AM Edit: 07-May-03 | 02:10 AM - RE: Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
I really don't have a choice, LA is where the industry I work in is based.
Message 21/24 14-May-03 @ 01:14 AM - RE: Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
None of this crap is new...
Dance Music is Punk rock, guys. There's a great feeling in burning your own cd's, printing your own labels... and selling your trax at shows! Playing live is HOW you get anywhere in electronic music. These guys who got into making tracks in Reason or Acid, they cannot cut it live. That's why so many FLEM's quit playing out... had a friend say, "It's better to DJ, Studio produced music can be so much more interesting than what you can do live!" And f+ck him for quiting, if you can't make a set that's at least as good as the DJ you shouldn't be playing out!
But 10 years ago it was all about "live" trust me, it's gotten harder over the years to get shows, not easier, because promoters don't want to accomodate the space, or effort it takes to house a live set-up. and frankly, all the e-tards don't friggin' care if it's live, so the parties we play are mostly underground, populated by people who KNOW!!! And so the pay isn't as good. But it's the only way you get up off the ground! Playing live, selling your homemade CD's... writing tracks for the stage and not the studio!
That's what electronic music is all about!
Quit whining!
e
Dance Music is Punk rock, guys. There's a great feeling in burning your own cd's, printing your own labels... and selling your trax at shows! Playing live is HOW you get anywhere in electronic music. These guys who got into making tracks in Reason or Acid, they cannot cut it live. That's why so many FLEM's quit playing out... had a friend say, "It's better to DJ, Studio produced music can be so much more interesting than what you can do live!" And f+ck him for quiting, if you can't make a set that's at least as good as the DJ you shouldn't be playing out!
But 10 years ago it was all about "live" trust me, it's gotten harder over the years to get shows, not easier, because promoters don't want to accomodate the space, or effort it takes to house a live set-up. and frankly, all the e-tards don't friggin' care if it's live, so the parties we play are mostly underground, populated by people who KNOW!!! And so the pay isn't as good. But it's the only way you get up off the ground! Playing live, selling your homemade CD's... writing tracks for the stage and not the studio!
That's what electronic music is all about!
Quit whining!
e
Message 22/24 14-May-03 @ 03:01 AM - RE: Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
oh shit....and stefan had me convinced it wasn't about anything but having fun in your bedroom!
damnit???!!....someone steer me straight on this...PLEASE!
i just simply hate not knowing.
damnit???!!....someone steer me straight on this...PLEASE!
i just simply hate not knowing.
Message 23/24 14-May-03 @ 03:52 AM - RE: Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
smart ass! hehehe
You can have fun in your bedroom without electronic music!
e
You can have fun in your bedroom without electronic music!
e
Message 24/24 15-May-03 @ 03:06 PM - RE: Dance Music Vinyl Sales down 38%
"dancemusic" has turned shite since the companies started making "dancemusic" gear... record sales or not.. wont stop me from making my crappy tunes and bug dave with'em.It will come around.. may be not vinyl but mp3s/wavs/cds/orvinylagain.. who knows.. who cares.
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