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Original Message 1/27 10-May-03 @ 10:36 PM Edit: 10-May-03 | 10:37 PM - 100 Worst Britons

Steve Roughley

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Incredibly disappointing. The 100 Greatest Britons showed that the English TV viewers are at least interested in those who do great things... well... until The 100 Worst came on. The biggest national whinge ever :P

Thatcher was the only 'person' (using the word incredibly loosely) who really diserved to be remembered as a bad thing. Every one else were just figures of jealousy and targets of bitches. Aahh to be in England

To my delight though, Pete Waterman was in there. "This man is responsible for many attrocities to humanity that should not be ignored... ...for which he needs to be punished". I had hoped that the evil bastard wouldn't go un-noticed.

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Steve.

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Message 2/27 10-May-03 @ 11:25 PM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

Deano

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A bunch of no-mark celebrities slagging off
another bunch of no-mark celebrities. I could only
bear to watch for about 10 minutes. And all the
truely terrible Britons they could have chosen.
What you doing in on Saturday night, Ste

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Message 3/27 10-May-03 @ 11:52 PM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

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another reason i NEVER watch the telly.....british or american.

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Message 4/27 11-May-03 @ 12:00 AM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

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who was/is pete waterman?

did winston churchill make it to the WORST list?

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Message 5/27 11-May-03 @ 12:24 AM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

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you reckon the queen and tony blair didn't deserve to be in the top 10?

still, 'H from Steps' made number 8

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Message 6/27 11-May-03 @ 12:48 AM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

Steve Roughley

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Well, I'm kinda on the fence about ol Tony ATM, and the queen has never done a single bloody thing... I suppose that is why she was listed.

Influx, do a search in UK Google for Pete Waterman and have a look at his CV!!! It doesn't take long before the murderous tendencies kick in.

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Steve.

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Message 7/27 11-May-03 @ 06:33 PM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

Influx

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but answer my question. what do you lefties thing of churchill?

lately Ive been reading that he was quite the monster!

Ive finally realized that the absolute most fucked up thing about modern society is the LIE of it all.

almost every. single. person. that we've been told was good, heroic, "a man for the people" was nothing more than a greedy whore who raped and stole to gain position.

hell...the whole fucking constitution thing...held up as the document that defines freedom and democracy, was apparently little more than a "keep them in their place" effort.

calgon! take me away!

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Message 8/27 11-May-03 @ 06:48 PM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

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It pains me to say it, but right on Influx. I don't think this is a modern thing, why do so few study history, so little attention paid to (attempts at) balanced versions of events. why are we allowing the same hideous things to happen that we know happened before

"New World Order" ..."same as the old boss" hahahaha

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Message 9/27 11-May-03 @ 11:23 PM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

Steve Roughley

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Well Churchill has allways been known for being a bastard. I mean, nearly his entire party disliked him. But he said and did some great things at a time when it was needed most and this is what people will allways focus on. Not the best example, but what if at some time in our History the earth and our entire existense were being threatened and Hitler saved us?

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Steve.

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Message 10/27 12-May-03 @ 01:56 AM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

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I think Churchill was a vicious anti working class bastard.

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Message 11/27 12-May-03 @ 02:07 AM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

Influx

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"It pains me to say it, but right on Influx."

heh. that bad, huh? had to throw that in!

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Message 12/27 12-May-03 @ 05:44 AM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

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to the victors go the spoils of history. I dunno about the Constitution being just a ?"keep them appeased and in their place" documaent. Some of the folks involved in it, and its penning, although not angels by any means may have had some decent and altruistic intentions with its penning. I don't know for sure, cuz I wasn't there in its drafting. What I do now know is that it doesn't matter anymore because it's treated like a joke by the people in power now, which is what really counts.

People are rarely remembered fairly at all ever, in either direction. I LOVE M'schelle Ndegeocello's line "Maybe Judas was the better man man, and Mary stayed a virgin just to save face.." People twist the memories of others constantly. I see it here all the time. Now imagine that on a global level throughout history with all of the opinionated views of the writers thrown in, with biased attention to some events, the complete disregard or twisting of others, and one can begin to see how and why we are ALL so skewed. Nobody knows the truths of history beyond personal experiences, and even that has personal bias involved. The hundred most shit-smeared Brits? Who cares? Half of them probably didn't deserve the shit they got and the other half didn't get enough, and those talkin shit probably needed a good smear themselves. Bloody typical.

Ape

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Message 13/27 12-May-03 @ 07:14 AM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

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"may have had some decent and altruistic intentions with its penning"

true. guess it depends on which accounts you read

aint no such thing as unbias, is there. if only we could unlearn the utter bullshit we're taught from day one

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Message 14/27 12-May-03 @ 07:27 AM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

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altho wait.

"altruism" is a fallacy

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Message 15/27 12-May-03 @ 01:01 PM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

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they are shite those 100 most .... programs. Full of C List virtually unknown celebs voicing their opinions on films, movie stars, most hated..etc.. I dont give a flying toss about what they think.

Pete Waterman certainly deserves to be in the list. Just below the cunt who stole my car. Oh, they have to be celebs do they ?

Churchil wanted to use gas against the Iraqi's during the uprising in the 50's (I think it was 50's). But was talked out of it. What a nice man.

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Message 16/27 12-May-03 @ 03:07 PM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

Jock Munro

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ARRRRRGH

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Message 17/27 12-May-03 @ 03:08 PM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

Jock Munro

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Sting came in at 81. Thats terrible. What the fuck has Sting ever done to deserve being voted for a worst briton. His one of the best musicians/songwriters thats ever existed. Ok, so he twats on about tantric rainforests. But he is fucking brilliant, and I want to protect him.

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Message 18/27 12-May-03 @ 06:46 PM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

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I lost respect for Sting the minute I saw three of his songs in ads at the same time. I mean, I understand paying the bills, but is Sting really short for money nowadays? If so, he's a fool.

Good tunes, tho.

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Message 19/27 12-May-03 @ 08:19 PM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

Influx

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aww stings about as commercial as you can possibly get

sad at that level isnt it? I mean..how much fucking money do you NEED?

how bad were these peoples childhoods that they feel so empty AND think that money will help?

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Message 20/27 13-May-03 @ 09:41 AM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

Jock Munro

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oh come on, do you have any idea how much heating bills can be when you have 7 houses ??

its the same old. the more money you earn the more you spend. I bet Sting still has the same level of disposable income a month than he does when he was a teacher. Maybe even having to blow people out for a drink because its "not payday until friday".

However I do agree that he should stop letting his stuff being used by other artists. His bit of a musical prostitute.

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Message 21/27 13-May-03 @ 11:12 AM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

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churchill wasn't popular til like 50 years after- his government got ousted after the war...its now in these times that he becomes a hero- the same will happen to blair, wont be til ages after that hes either rendered a tyrant or a hero- how nostalgia clouds judgement eh?

greg

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Message 22/27 13-May-03 @ 02:19 PM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

Jock Munro

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a bit like the TB303.

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Message 23/27 13-May-03 @ 04:24 PM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

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WHAAAAT?! No comment involving wanking, shagging or cumshots Jock?!!

You're slipping mate..

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Message 24/27 14-May-03 @ 10:27 AM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

Jock Munro

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talking of cumshots. I got a written warning back in 1998 for entering a competition at work. We had just made live a new production system, and the company wanted to know what to call it. So they asked their staff for ideas, the best one would be the name of the new system. So I forwarded

"Customer User Management System for Heirachical Order Transactions", or CUMSHOT for short.

Cant believe they gave me a warning. Everyone else thought it was funny. Bah.

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Message 25/27 14-May-03 @ 11:48 AM Edit: 14-May-03 | 11:48 AM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

steve

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lol, if anyone else had said that you'd think they were joking.

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Message 26/27 15-May-03 @ 07:08 PM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

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yeah, the constitution was a nice bit of parchment...unless of course you were native american, black, non-christian, or poor. then it sucks.

seriously though, paperwork is there to validate the transaction, in this case, of america breaking off from its parent company, england.

i'm sure some people had good intentions...for their kids...but most good intentions have horible realities. take religon for example...a lot of those zealots think they're doing good...converting the heathens and all that. check out the book called, "The Lucifer Principle" by Howard Bloon (who not only has a degree in history, has done cancer research, but he also did the PR for Def Jam Recordings!!!). My favorite title for a chapter in this book is "Religous Indignation equals the Greed for Real Estate."

okay, that's my rant for today. I'm off to watch Hot or Not.

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Message 27/27 16-May-03 @ 10:41 AM - RE: 100 Worst Britons

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Is that like the website ? I got 8.3 on there.

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