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Original Message 1/55 15-May-03 @ 10:13 PM - Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 2/55 15-May-03 @ 10:21 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
that said, i'm sure old paul is a pretty interesting guy to talk with. he was quite famous you know.
Message 3/55 15-May-03 @ 11:37 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 4/55 15-May-03 @ 11:40 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 5/55 15-May-03 @ 11:53 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 6/55 16-May-03 @ 12:46 AM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 7/55 16-May-03 @ 01:11 AM Edit: 16-May-03 | 01:12 AM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Personally, I feel that Lennon and McCartney were and are (respectively) so far up their own arses that they were and are still living off of that evil curry they had in 1972. Working class heroes my feckin arse!
Regards.
Steve.
Message 8/55 16-May-03 @ 01:17 AM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 9/55 16-May-03 @ 02:58 AM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
In a word: YES!!!!
Ape
Message 10/55 16-May-03 @ 03:33 AM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 11/55 16-May-03 @ 09:35 AM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 12/55 16-May-03 @ 10:39 AM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Gotto give Macca credit for knocking out some classics in his time. Although it seemed to of dried out after The Beatles. Never really thought that much of Wings or his solo stuff.
Message 14/55 16-May-03 @ 12:32 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Steve.
Message 15/55 16-May-03 @ 01:56 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 16/55 16-May-03 @ 02:53 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 17/55 16-May-03 @ 02:56 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 18/55 16-May-03 @ 04:09 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 19/55 16-May-03 @ 05:21 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
HE WAS NOT A GOOD BASS PLAYER, perhaps after 40 years with the thing he's gotten all right, but he was never any better than passable.
Who gives a sh+t why he married the girl? Of all the topics we can discuss in relation to PM this has to be the last on my list of interesting things.
e
Message 20/55 16-May-03 @ 06:15 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
I'm not a fan of all his solo stuff, but there were a couple good tracks here and there. I like the albums Ram and McCartney.
Message 21/55 17-May-03 @ 05:56 AM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 22/55 17-May-03 @ 07:38 AM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 23/55 17-May-03 @ 01:10 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 24/55 17-May-03 @ 02:52 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
eventually and live to face that ghost.....you learn a lot about who we are...,not just paul and the beatles. it was john who tired of the beatles
status of complacent rock-star acceptance and doing normal rock-star things. he wanted to publically and privately protest the war and make weird doodles naked in bed and hold to a desire to perform as an individual and not forever as a part of "the fab four". in pauls' defense....he is amongst one of the best bassists to play AND SING simultaneously.
i mean....geez....they wrote a thousand songs and he could walk up there and perform the damned things and make millions scream. then again....
ebony and ivory....
what's funny and sad is that he had to ask michael and yoko whether ONE song could read mccartney/lennon and MJ said.....no!
paul...."it's only business."
i say it's only karma.
t'would make him a more humble and spiritual guy by now....i'm thinking.
Message 25/55 18-May-03 @ 08:55 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
bassist? thoughtful and melodic. what was required and nothing more. the bassists who suck are "lead" bassists out of the flea/stanley clarke/chris squire school who turn the treble up, overplay shit and mostly just show-off their chops. yuck!
the changing the credit thing may seem kind of small and revisionist, but also might more accurately represent the contributions, especially with the later stuff, when there were obvious John songs and obvious Paul songs. And what was Lennon's contribution to "Yesterday"?
some of the man's tunes we silly fluff, others we nothing but brilliant and will be remembered long after we're all worm food.
Message 26/55 19-May-03 @ 12:40 AM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 27/55 19-May-03 @ 12:24 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 29/55 19-May-03 @ 06:29 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
lol.
Do you think she goes into the shoe store and just buys the single display model?
Message 30/55 19-May-03 @ 06:31 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 31/55 19-May-03 @ 09:23 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
anyone seen "a z and two noughts"?
Message 33/55 20-May-03 @ 07:15 AM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
about paul from a person with a groovebox
Message 34/55 20-May-03 @ 11:26 AM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 35/55 20-May-03 @ 11:36 AM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 36/55 20-May-03 @ 02:01 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
of mr. kite....or norwegian wood...and say make it simply about the bass-playing?
the bass was there to hold the bottom while the rest maintained the melody...which was what the beatles were known for. funk wasn't even invented yet...weather report was a concept still a decade or two away.....pastorius would still end up going crazy and fading ungracefully many years later.
hard insane scientific bass just wasn't a total priority during the earliest days of rock.
ringo wasn't that great a drummer either but just listen to the beginning of ticket to ride or.....or the beats in she said..or..tnk....they
were definitely a step forward for music.
i'm sure even bootsy would tell you so.
Message 37/55 20-May-03 @ 02:47 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
but essentially i agree, like the prince thing- wicked twiddler but his song writing pisses all over his playing...
Greg
Message 38/55 20-May-03 @ 06:23 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 39/55 21-May-03 @ 03:58 AM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
mr. kite but he and crew were still feeling things out....i believe. it wasn't yet full-fledged funk yet. right?
i'm no historian. but today i started to hear the bass-line for mean mister mustard....and boy....could you imagine the jb crew doing that one?!!!!!
now that was funky for it's time.
Message 40/55 21-May-03 @ 04:36 AM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
The Beatles owed a lot of what they did to African American music of the 40's and 50's. Hell that IS where rock came from. Lennon/McCartney were great song writers, not great musicians... McCartney understood what was good, and how tunes came together, if the bass was simple it was because of that! Tricked out bass is a "jazzy" sorta thing... NOT ROCK, and back then kids in leather from liverpool knew the friggin' difference! hehehe
the above was spot on about Ringo, man... he wasn't even good. he's always racing to catch up with the beat. In every friggin' song, gives a push pull feel that people like, but it's not good drumming... hell just listen to the medley on the b side of Abbey Road, they finaly pushed enough LSD down his throat to convince him to play a drum solo and that's what they got... it's nice to listen to, but it's not particularly good.
e
Message 41/55 21-May-03 @ 09:07 AM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Greg
Message 42/55 21-May-03 @ 02:26 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 43/55 21-May-03 @ 03:05 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 44/55 21-May-03 @ 03:42 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Greg (all imho)
Message 45/55 21-May-03 @ 03:43 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Greg
Message 46/55 21-May-03 @ 06:03 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 47/55 21-May-03 @ 08:00 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Paul Klee was a bad painter, but a great artist who made great paintings.
Shrug...
Semantics make for stupid arguments though. Don't they?
e
Message 48/55 22-May-03 @ 12:36 AM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
i mean you gotta *read* crowley.. young!
Message 49/55 22-May-03 @ 12:44 AM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 50/55 22-May-03 @ 12:46 AM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
that's way too deep for me.
i'm straight-up working class...perhaps a little french wine and some english cheese...but hey....
"evil" ain't where it's at unless you're the government...of course.
illuminati....etc.
Message 51/55 22-May-03 @ 02:16 AM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Interestingly, Crowley's Ordo Templi Orientus was not allowed fellowship in the Rosicrucian lodge... Rosicrucian's... rosy cross... red cross of the templars... who broke apart and reformed as the free masons... of which Paul McCartney is a member!!!
e
Message 52/55 22-May-03 @ 02:45 AM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 53/55 22-May-03 @ 05:30 AM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
Message 54/55 22-May-03 @ 08:46 PM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
for god's sake read crowley before you watch a even second of television.
Message 55/55 23-May-03 @ 09:20 AM - RE: Does Paul McCartney suck?
greg
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