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Original Message 1/25 25-Aug-04 @ 07:24 AM - the shine

welder (aka. ragnarok)

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Cheers folks. Here's something new from me, some moody, melancholic night-music. I've been staying away from the keys for almost 6 months now, but as my life seems to get back to normal, I tend to enjoy making music again. Not a flawless piece, so your comments are very wellcome.

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Message 2/25 25-Aug-04 @ 09:43 AM - RE: the shine

casparproject

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The harmonies you're developing here at the opening are very nice. Drums are
nice and subtle so far. I like your use of metal and glass percussion sounds. It
really creates a cold and desolate soundscape. I'm waiting for something here,
it's a very long period without percussion, but you fill that void with some nice
harmonies. Now that the drums have come back in though, I feel like I've
misssed something. It needs to have something new with that drop, like a
doubletime beat, or a bassline or something. It's a great track, and even as a
'track in progress' it stands up fine on its own.

Peaceout,

Peter

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Message 3/25 25-Aug-04 @ 09:58 AM - RE: the shine

welder (aka. ragnarok)

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Yeah, I've asked that question to myself as well, doesn't those drums need to evolve somehow? It was too evident to bring back the same percussion line... I'll se what I can do about that, thanks for the tip and the comments!

cheers,
welder

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Message 4/25 25-Aug-04 @ 12:51 PM - RE: the shine

casparproject

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Is it just me, or are we the only ones here?

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Message 5/25 25-Aug-04 @ 05:04 PM - RE: the shine

welder (aka. ragnarok)

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sometimes I wonder about that too...

also, most of the song uploaders doesn't come here to ask for comments / say hello / advertise their work / whatever... I mean, it's fine with me, I just wonder why. I guess it's not because dt forums doesn't have any avatars

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Message 6/25 25-Aug-04 @ 05:34 PM Edit: 25-Aug-04 | 05:35 PM - RE: the shine

welder (aka. ragnarok)

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edited out

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Message 7/25 27-Aug-04 @ 02:53 AM - RE: the shine

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k asked me about this a couple weeks ago...the issue of dt's newfound code-of-silence....or relative quietness.
i have my theories but that's irrelevant....just like most of my theories (!) .
but i simply think people are growing up and have gotten bored.
this is natural.

anyway rags....i'm not sure that it's the beat that needs to bring life back into the last part of the track......
but rather those nice subtle harmonies which get introduced midway through the song....and then disappear. i think those should be brought back but like really almost in a big way.
i think you could manage to keep the drums simple this way....and also remove a little of that coldness which needs to give way to a big dose of sunshine....

otherwise.....a very good start. i like those sneaky distorted bits.

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Message 8/25 27-Aug-04 @ 09:26 AM - RE: the shine

welder (aka. ragnarok)

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Well, now I'm confused.

Hell no.

But thanks for the listen Clay, I'll see if I can do something for those nice harmonies, maybe I can arrange something for them at the end :-) If I'd only know which part you mean... (time when they start maybe?)

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Message 9/25 27-Aug-04 @ 09:28 AM - RE: the shine

welder (aka. ragnarok)

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"but i simply think people are growing up and have gotten bored"

Ok fine. But what about those others who are still young? Also, what about the new, fresh ones, or are we too old for them to mix?

"18 till I die"

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Message 10/25 27-Aug-04 @ 02:03 PM - RE: the shine

SignalRunners - BLU

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Alot of OLD people here now (im 26 and see myself as a pup on dt)

Quite a few not so open to different types of music, newer music, some more commercially popular, some not - it doesnt matter, holding on too much somewhere, sometimes - clay could have a real good point, bored thing- but if the young blood keep getting batted staright back out the park, then the old will get older, and dwindle- atleast somewhat.....and the young will group together, still, in other places- more comfartable places.

But- *just* maybe it IS just a summer thing

Anyhow, i dont really feel comfartable commenting on stuff im not so sure about, but it was pretty nice (if that even helps)- keep it up, especially if your 25 or under

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Message 11/25 27-Aug-04 @ 02:58 PM - RE: the shine

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"waiting for the old people to disappear"

don't worry, we're standing by the stairs !

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Message 12/25 28-Aug-04 @ 09:38 AM - RE: the shine

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hello,

I liked this one. At first the main riff bothered, like it was going too fast or something. Then again, I like how it follows the drums in unison.

I think the main theme was reintroduced too quickly after the breakdown tho. It seems that it's (the riff) siginificant enough that you could departure from it to create a build of tension in the listener... y'nkow something like "oh ya.. here comes that riff again!!! woo!". I don't mean balls-out, just a small touch more pronounced.

shoot I babble

the distortion tweaking at the end was cool too.

-j

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Message 13/25 30-Aug-04 @ 07:27 AM - RE: the shine

welder (aka. ragnarok)

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blu: shit, I'm 28

But thanks for popping in and listening.

queasy: the main riff at the beginning.. well that was a bit overcomplicated. Also, I'm working on a bit different arrangement, and I'll probably add/remove a few sounds here and there.. well, we'll see. thanks everyone for the comments!

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Message 14/25 31-Aug-04 @ 02:13 PM - RE: the shine

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very nice. i also really like jupiter landing. mmm...aggro

is there a possibility to get a cd ?

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Message 15/25 01-Sep-04 @ 07:48 AM - RE: the shine

welder (aka. ragnarok)

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Sure, just drom me a mail from my user page.

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Message 16/25 01-Sep-04 @ 05:12 PM - RE: the shine

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heh - about the code of silence - i've just been too lazy to log in lately - I really wish there wasn't that thing where you have to log in to post...

Anyways - I have been listening but haven't been commenting on anyone's stuff - I'll start here. I love the melody here - the glass bell sound I can never get enough of. I Agree that the drums need to evolve during this track - otherwise - it's fine so far.

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Message 17/25 01-Sep-04 @ 05:12 PM Edit: 02-Sep-04 | 11:51 PM - RE: the shine

Absorb Fish

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[Edited Because of Repeat]

Wonder why that happened...

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Message 18/25 01-Sep-04 @ 05:38 PM - RE: the shine

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you can check the "remember me on this computer" box and forget about it

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Message 19/25 01-Sep-04 @ 09:30 PM - RE: the shine

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yeah - it works y'know!

love the panning timed thing - feel like it's gonna be drum&bass when it arrives.... um...

i like the way it's not repetitive, there are touches and it feels more organic always best for ambient... great track man, pro quality easily, i'd be happy if i bought an album and it was on it... fine....

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Message 20/25 01-Sep-04 @ 09:45 PM - RE: the shine

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yeah man.... i aint got time to listen to all you uploaded, but from sampling a few, i'd say you're a 'natural' - it's got an overall very musical quality to it all, hard to explain, perhaps organic is a better word, all the stuff does stuff at timing positions and in a method that feels organic, not overly planned mentaly or something, i dunno - fuckin go for it!.... great stuff man, really - I'd buy it & play it.

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Message 21/25 01-Sep-04 @ 09:48 PM - RE: the shine

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just noticed your kitlist - ableton... do you arrange or create your stuff partly with live mixes of component parts?

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Message 22/25 02-Sep-04 @ 01:59 AM - RE: the shine

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"but from sampling a few, i'd say you're a 'natural' "

definately, the whole thing breaths

i'd buy it too, given the possibility

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Message 23/25 02-Sep-04 @ 06:11 AM - RE: the shine

welder (aka. ragnarok)

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Well, big thanks for everyone listening and commenting, some of you have really made my day today

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Absorb Fish: I already made some changes to those drum patterns, although they didn't really work out as I expected. Glad you liked those bell sounds too.

Nutoniom: yeah, working on it

K: thanks for the compliments man, I'm flattered. Thing is, I bought live just to have something to experiment, make remixes etc. Didn't really mastered it yet. Also, I was playing with the idea of doing some live act, but that's all, in 90% of the cases I use reason to sequence/record, so what you hear is edited/arranged MIDI parts, with some live synth tweaking (analog gamepad as controller, worked out pretty fine).

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Message 24/25 02-Sep-04 @ 10:18 AM - RE: the shine

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As I said before, it's a great track dude!

I'd like to hear more and accurate drums in this title, so I can imagine that I've to remix it!

Best,
woland ex

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Message 25/25 02-Sep-04 @ 10:19 AM - RE: the shine

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As I said before, it's a great track dude!

I'd like to hear more and accurate drums in this title, so I can imagine that I've to remix it!

Best,
woland ex

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