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Subject: Short breakfast meditation
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Original Message 1/15 04-Sep-04 @ 05:17 PM - Short breakfast meditation
MassiveDefeat
It's a pain to mix Evolver-only-tracks, every single voice is very heavy.
Some hints on the mix ?
Stefan
Message 2/15 05-Sep-04 @ 06:44 AM - RE: Short breakfast meditation
i enjoyed the first part of the song more than the second, darker part.
but i always like the lighter parts....yes.
one part of the second section pops out very clean...that i liked.
if i were to remix this...we'd probably never even see that portion of the song....
and just keep it to the fantasy.
that i liked a lot.
Message 3/15 05-Sep-04 @ 09:33 AM - RE: Short breakfast meditation
I think I need to connect the single audio outs of the Poly Evolver instead of using the mix out in multimode to be able to use EQs on every single sound.
In terms of the overall feeling: There is no dark part in this song. I had a good breakfast and was steadily smiling about the power of the poly sounds when arranging this track
But I must admit that I have a rather superficial approach to making music. There's not much emotions in my stuff, I simply enjoy to make noises and rhythms
Message 4/15 05-Sep-04 @ 04:29 PM - RE: Short breakfast meditation
this can always help in regards to separation.
>>In terms of the overall feeling: There is no dark part in this song.
well...i didn't mean DARK DARK. just that the second quasi-kraut-rok movement was more somber...less eclesiastical than the first.
i think the first movement has enough going for it to carry an entire piece...with perhaps short bits of the other passage.
>>I had a good breakfast and was steadily smiling about the power of the poly sounds when arranging this track.
this is easy to understand. nice breakfast....nice family safely running about the house...dad and his poly-evolver!!!
woohoo stefan!
i'm glad you're doing well.
>>But I must admit that I have a rather superficial approach to making music. There's not much emotions in my stuff, I simply enjoy to make noises and rhythms
we've gone over this before. and i don't wanna pull dr. Q in here or your birth-chart...but i've always believed because of your chops-man background...
you tend to play with your hands and your mind and not always your soul.
that's not to say soulful things don't occur here...or that you're not a soulful person.
i simply believe you're afraid to let everything hang-out emotionally when you compose.
it can be a weird almost scary thing to let certain musics really take over.
simplify. find god lurking in those passages. put those tired blues formulas away.
and roll with it.
you know what i'm talking about. you've got a whole heritage of music
you're standing upon.
btw....i uploaded fragilo for everyone's enjoyment.
web-link
another great example of you allowing one passage to occur only ONCE before moving on to the next.
ah...nevermind me...just have fun playing dad and keep enjoying those
evolver breakfasts.
Message 5/15 07-Sep-04 @ 01:09 PM - RE: Short breakfast meditation
I must admit that you know a little better than me what I felt during the making of that track
I only remember that te sun was shining 
>>i simply believe you're afraid to let everything hang-out emotionally when you compose.
I can't urge it. If it doesn't happen, it doesn't. Gotta be content when some teetering happens
Message 6/15 07-Sep-04 @ 02:38 PM - RE: Short breakfast meditation
i'm sorry stefan for suggesting anything....but when people ask others to take the time to listen to their tracks and provide feedback....
i'm gonna do that (if i've got the time or inkling).
it's hard to stick with just discussing the mix since what's experienced on my end as listener is more than just mix-related.
far more interesting to me, is discussing the material itself....and the nature of those teetery sunny mornings.
consider it a push in that direction.
Message 7/15 07-Sep-04 @ 03:18 PM - RE: Short breakfast meditation
Initially I thought that people would immediately classify this track as boom-tschak 4 to the floor.
Message 8/15 08-Sep-04 @ 01:51 AM - RE: Short breakfast meditation
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Message 9/15 08-Sep-04 @ 06:04 AM - RE: Short breakfast meditation
you once told me your wife and daughter weren't really crazy about your music.
i just want to hear you did a song which made the two of them swoon and cry and say....
dad...you're always our hero......but now you're our musical hero too!!!!
that would truly make my day.
Message 10/15 08-Sep-04 @ 06:07 AM - RE: Short breakfast meditation
no big deal really.....but i thought i'd mention it.)
Message 11/15 08-Sep-04 @ 06:42 AM - RE: Short breakfast meditation
Message 12/15 09-Sep-04 @ 03:23 AM - RE: Short breakfast meditation
Message 13/15 09-Sep-04 @ 04:08 AM - RE: Short breakfast meditation
so that means you're actually worth something to someone?!?!?!!
woo-hoo for that dad!!!
Message 14/15 10-Sep-04 @ 09:37 AM - RE: Short breakfast meditation
Mixwise: distorted bassdrum might be EQd down a bit, prolly around 120 HZ, otherwise I'd say play with the levels, try to have quieter / louder parts based on their importance in the song. When it comes to arrangement, I would do a slower buildup, only adding one item at a time, but this is more an atristical approach than a technicality, and even if I'd do it differetnly, the song still works for me.
Ok, listeniong again, Love the fm-ish mayhem!
Great stuff!So my recommendations:
- always consider which parts play the key role in a certain section of the song, and try to build your mix around that part. Start by having only those key parts, pull down thevolume on the rest, and try to bring em one by one to a volume what's sounds appropriate. Start with the one that you feel is most important and finish with the least important. Like a director, place your actors on the stage based on their importance to the play.
- Cut some high end on the noise-ish, bright "effect" sounds. Those chaotic high frequencies add together rather quickly, and it might be tiring to listen to that. Sure, having them all together with all their high frequency content can have great dramatic impact, but only if you let them together once in a while.
/Welder (aka. Ragnarok)
Message 15/15 10-Sep-04 @ 02:41 PM - RE: Short breakfast meditation
I think I'll restart the whole project from scratch and build a new tune around that bass sequence. The track that I uploaded was finished in around an hour, while I spent several evenings on the sound programming befor.
I need to seperate the Poly Evolver multis into single sounds to be able to mix them. In the current state these multis are too complex to be mixed adequately. For example, what you hear from 2:00" to 2:30" is ONE sound, one note, only modwheel, aftertouch and bender for modulations, the rest comes from the Evolvers step sequencers. Gotta seperate that...
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