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Original Message 1/21 23-Jul-05 @ 11:52 AM Edit: 23-Jul-05 | 11:54 AM - the killers

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Killers, U2, Razorlight,Bloc Party etc

Anyone notice how pop music has a very distinct identity at the moment, in the same way you might think of music in the sixties or eighties. There's some pretty good stuff knocking about in the albums charts. Its the like the total evolution of everything that happened in the ninties coming to the fore. Well thats what it seems like to me. A lot of eighties stuff on the mainstream radio stations these days too. I think as the media bubble consumes us further we'll start to losing all perspective of time... and its starting with the killers... its like those big synth rock bands from 1986 that we all cringe at but love all the same, but yet the killers still sound so contempory. Even U2 are hawking that sound.

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Message 2/21 25-Jul-05 @ 01:46 PM - RE: the killers

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I prefer The Kills ;)

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!

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Message 3/21 26-Jul-05 @ 01:04 AM - RE: the killers

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huh?

bloc party are shit. razolight have 2 good songs on the album. u2 have nothing to do with these lot. killers? i'm undecided but yeah you're right there's some 80s thing going on there.

don't even mention the kaiser chiefs.

i don't really see the connection.

nice to be excited about music though innit

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Message 4/21 26-Jul-05 @ 09:01 AM - RE: the killers

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they are all very similar- typical nme bandwagoin wankery- its like 'right lets decide what should be the next cool thing'- spend two years bringing out a bunch of soundalikes who as soon as they are established are being slagged for being too succesful whilst more commie-shirt-wearing nme bastards make up NAM or noname or something equally as shite...

speaking of shite i got that rephlex grime 2 album the other day.....new genre? its fookin' crap!!

greg

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Message 5/21 27-Jul-05 @ 06:11 AM - RE: the killers

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hey how 'bout them kaiser chiefs?

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Message 6/21 27-Jul-05 @ 11:08 AM - RE: the killers

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dont mind the singles- havent heard hte album- heard its ok but not inspiring- i like the way they keep changing up, lyrics are good too

greg

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Message 7/21 27-Jul-05 @ 11:16 AM - RE: the killers

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p-lease.... KC's?... I mean... eeeeeeee - i think it's telling that their name almost equals KFC as an acronym

actualy, the KIlls are good live but I'd admit their video is fucking aweful, poncy, artschool, winetasting, guardian reader, tofu munching, alchohol free lager slurping shite... yuuurg -

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speaking of shite i got that rephlex grime 2 album the other day.....new genre? its fookin' crap!!

lol

cmon it's not that bad, but it is rather.... whats the word... abrasive?

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Message 8/21 27-Jul-05 @ 11:26 AM - RE: the killers

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As for U2, if you liek that kinda music try that band I mentioned 'SUNSHINE'... awesome! and very like U2. I've seen U2 live and i thought Sunshine were better if you take away the massive U2 stageprops etc. But even without the massive stage show I thought Sunshine were still better - they are from Czech

http://www.sunshine.uk.com/

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Message 9/21 27-Jul-05 @ 12:22 PM - RE: the killers

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K - that Grime 2 is rubbish. Grime 1 was better. However, there a couple of producers on the Grime sence who are amazing. My 2 favorites are:-

DJ Distance and Search and Destroy.

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Message 10/21 27-Jul-05 @ 01:41 PM - RE: the killers

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yeah the other grime stuff has been much better- the whole grime 2 album to me sounded like a bunch of half arsed ideas with no real progression- dunno couldn't really stick it....

kaiser chiefs are ok but that only in the context of who they are up against in the pop market- not hard when you look at the competition...

greg

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Message 11/21 27-Jul-05 @ 02:42 PM - RE: the killers

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i just found it (grime2) a bit soul-less, a bit too edging towards techno/drum&bass, a tad harsh, but y'know, good ideas, but just not so much my preferred feel.

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Message 12/21 28-Jul-05 @ 06:39 AM - RE: the killers

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rarely peep the radio but caught a tune by the killers today and first thought...hmmmm....little waterboyish quality....kinda almost mott-the-hoople in there somewhere until they got to that horrid section where he pummels that phrase into the ground....i got soul but i'm not no soldier....
gawd....

they're gonna be in sd this week and i'll definitely be sure to miss em.

the line should've said>>> i just got sold just like a soldier.....

no payola involved here!

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Message 13/21 28-Jul-05 @ 11:27 AM - RE: the killers

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sometimes i wonder about these major releases. People like Joss Stone, they seem so watered down compared to the greats from previosu era's and (no doubt) the greats we dont get to hear about working today - it just seems like some sort of halfassed corporate version of a great singer. But really she's pretty fuckin weak as both a vocalist and as a performer.

It makes you wonder cos i cant beleive the real star-quality talent just isn't there like it was in previous decades.

I caught the performance by Mariah Carey when i was TV channel flipping during that Live8 concert recently (hey, i aint gonna watch that tripe) - I was amazed how bad she was live, truly aweful! - out of tune, poor phrasing, lack of sustain (and breath frankly she sounded like she'd run the 400 meters after each song). How much fucking around do they do with that woman in Pro-Tools for gods sake!

Add to that the cringe-factor of her pretending to sing with a cute bunch of african schoolboys (who didnt appear to be even mic'd up, you couldnt hear them in the mix) and it was making my toes curl up underneath & scratch the bottom of my feet with embarrasment! - The cringe-factor was off the scale!!

standards have definately dropped for 'major' artists in the last decade. I had dinner 1.5 years or so back with some people one of whom was from Warners (I think it was), and this woman was banging on about how the guy from Pop Idol was so great cos he'd sold a million records.

I was like "But that wasnt like an artist, that was a TV show promo product, backed by the biggest TV show in the Uk"... sure, and Tellytubbies sold something like 20 million quids worth of goods (books/dvd's/toys etc) for the bbc in product sales in the first year apparently to put it in perspective ....and this Warners woman is carrying on like he's the saviour of the Brit music biz. Fuckin rediculous. And of course, where is he now?... nowhere like all of these TV talent show winners.

it's pretty sad. I cant understand what these people are playing at in the majors.

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Message 14/21 28-Jul-05 @ 12:24 PM - RE: the killers

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....and this Warners woman is carrying on like hes the saviour of the Brit music biz. Fuckin rediculous. And of course, where is he now?... nowhere like all of these TV talent show winners.

its pretty sad. I cant understand what these people are playing at in the majors.

k... but surely you know its all about return on investment and shareholder value. if she helped sell million records then she indeed is one of the saviours of the biz, from the *biz* point of view that is. real art went somewhere else.

the spirit of the times is all about internet distribution and small net labels innit

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Message 15/21             28-Jul-05 @ 01:36 PM   -   RE: the killers

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i wouldn't throw that joss stone out of bed though.

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Message 16/21             28-Jul-05 @ 03:46 PM   -   RE: the killers

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listening to that hard-fi album, sounds like the clash had a gangbang with prefab sprout

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Message 17/21             28-Jul-05 @ 06:00 PM   -   RE: the killers

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is that as in good or bad?

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Message 18/21             30-Jul-05 @ 07:38 AM   -   RE: the killers

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i'm still trying to savor/digest this bit about the usefulness of dancing about to the cheeziest of pop as some exercise in awareness-building or enhancement.
this might take time.

a mix of the clash and prefab sprout?
do bring that on.

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Message 19/21             30-Jul-05 @ 09:16 PM   -   RE: the killers

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I recently enjoyed the production on the Hives "I hate to say I told you so", phat indie guitar?
but i am not hearing/buying much - i got that free with a newspaper - so I am right out of it

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Message 20/21             31-Jul-05 @ 07:27 AM   -   RE: the killers

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so I am right out of it

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Message 21/21             14-Aug-05 @ 09:31 AM   -   RE: the killers

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hard-fi are still holding up here. maximo park are sounding alright, a little 'strokes' sounding sometimes. not bad for geordies though.

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