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Original Message 1/10 22-Feb-99 @ 12:39 AM - Supernova vs Waldorf Q

pelle

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Waldorf has really blown it by not releasing the Q in the rack mount version. Who wants another kbrd? Most people buy a workstation for their first kbrd.
If the Q is released in the rack version, then, watch out Novation!

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Message 2/10 22-Feb-99 @ 12:06 PM - RE: Supernova vs Waldorf Q

Phill

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Visit the Supernova page in Products for my views on this topic...

Phill@Novation

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Message 3/10 22-Feb-99 @ 03:32 PM - RE: Supernova vs Waldorf Q

pelle

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Thanks Phill.
Couldn't find your views on the topic.Curious to know.

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Message 4/10 22-Feb-99 @ 05:21 PM - RE: Supernova vs Waldorf Q

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I have heard that Waldorf is indeed planning on releasing a rack version of the Q. They'll be dropping a few knobs though to keep the size down.

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Message 5/10 22-Feb-99 @ 09:25 PM - RE: Supernova vs Waldorf Q

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i also could not find any mention of the waldorf q on the supernova product page.

phill?
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Message 6/10 22-Feb-99 @ 11:03 PM - RE: Supernova vs Waldorf Q

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I think then you may get it..if you check

http://www.waldorf-gmbh.de/q/q.html

Be not to quick to judge...

V3 Looms...they say

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Message 7/10 23-Feb-99 @ 05:27 AM - RE: Supernova vs Waldorf Q

pelle

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If they are planning on releasing a rack version it's still a big mistake to release the kbrd first.
And, there is no news about rack version at this place
http://www.waldorf-gmbh.de/q/q.html

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Message 8/10 23-Feb-99 @ 09:00 AM - RE: Supernova vs Waldorf Q

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here's the source of the info. not sure how reliable it is. this guy claims to have visited the castle as part of a focus group.

http://www.fortunecity.de/lindenpark/schwitters/37/waldorfme.html

Waldorf Meeting 2/99..

I must tell you this about Waldorf.. I were there and got some new info...
Some consequences and Results:
They will release a Q Rack (below 4000.-Deutsche Mark = app.$2325 ?). It will
have less knobs (necessary if you don�t want it to be 10 spaces high..)

what will be reduced? one set of knobs for LFO and OSCILLATORs will be there..
to reach eg. LFO 2 you will have to press a button.. the same with the OSCs..

the filterparameters like Drive, FM.. will be in the menu.. will cutoff
resonance and type are still controllable by knobs.

The Step-Sequencer will be on board but only via menu..

It was very interesting to see the place where waldorf produce their machines..
an it isn�t that big.. in the castle.

I really like that they are listening.. what we (I) need and how to make our
ideas become reality.

So we all want(ed) a waldorf modular system based on the XT (or/and the Q) that
can be freely routed/modulated (Clavia Modular??) but including Mac support..
they liked the idea.. and it really sounded that they want to do it! So it will
work like this: You put the new ModularOS into your XT and it is a modular
system that can be controlled by a Mac (PC).. the "old" menues can be used in
the "modular mode".. for editing one of the modules..

The digital outputs seemed not to be that important topic.. the Q will show
waldorf if it is a feature everybody want to have (don�t forget: you pay for it
even if you don�t need it)

ah by the way they will have the XT-Keyboard out soon

my suggestions to put the additional filter-parameter, the (soon able to
modulate!) FX and the arpeggiator on the 8 knob row (for Env. ctrl.): yes they
want to do it: Control them directly - nice!! The same for Mod.Matrix amounts -
eg. to change the LFO amounts without stepping around in the menue

some other ideas we had: the attack times can be displayed as eg. 1/32 (score..)
or LFOs in BPM...

Stefan Stenzel now develops a bus system.. that is great for routing!!
..the external inputs.. yes a lot of things to expect...

next OS for XT/MWII will be out soon...

I can�t list all ideas here (like that nice upper wavetable on the PPG)

..but I can not leave out the Filters: we all wanted additional filters
(formant?/other combinations...)

but of course (DSP power) the Filter2 is a 6dB and will not become 12..

some ideas of synthesis for future OS: granuar synth. (oh, how to control
that!!??), Karplus Strong (already done in the Q.. just press the right
buttons!)..

Waldorf will not make the XT incompatible:with and without 30voice extension...
if they do so on the modular system is not yet sure...

a blue version of the Q will come, too.. No more word on colours..

after that (...) I could touch the Q..

very convincing.. the concept, sound, controlling it, Filter FM, LFO/Env. Speed
(faaaassstt!!), FM for all 3 OSCs, mod. FX, Comb-Filter / Filter concept...

(why "Q" ? StarTrek, James Bond, Resonance?? no because it is next after P.. you
know why!! )

If you ever have the chance to go to waldorf.. do it! (ok - you are reading this
in english so you do not live in germany.. perhaps, ehm, you.. ???)

ok lets stop here.. even that wasn�t all...

it was great.. that day and waldorf, too!
to be continued...

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Message 9/10 24-Feb-99 @ 05:44 PM - RE: Supernova vs Waldorf Q

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The racked Q is not officially announced, nor is it positively planned.

Anything to be said about the racked Q needs to come from Waldorf, and no one else. The information above is NOT confirmed.

And, for some more info on the Q, I've been collecting tidbits for quite sometime:

http://www.midiwall.com/q/

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Message 10/10 25-Feb-99 @ 01:17 AM - RE: Supernova vs Waldorf Q

also waiting

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Thanks for the Q pics "mpulver". the Q looks dangerous. too bad it has no ribbon controller.

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