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Subject: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
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Original Message 1/31 28-Feb-99 @ 04:02 PM - Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
Something big is going down at Frankfurt. Is it just a new OS or is their something more sinister. A hardware upgrade perhaps? Any ideas?
Message 2/31 01-Mar-99 @ 01:17 PM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
No idea - really... I can't believe that it is a hardware upgrade. AFAIK it is not possible to use outputs as inputs. What I could think of is maybe a modified version of the 16 voice expansion board. But how could this bring additional inputs ? ... Well - let's wait some more hours... that is... a minimum of 48... 
Mickey.
Mickey.
Message 3/31 05-Mar-99 @ 09:49 PM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
i have a friend who works at emu, actually specifically on some I/O for their products. she says there's no reason at all that novation couldn't have built some of the outputs to also work as inputs. obviously, the OS upgrade would be necessary to take advantage of any "secret" inputs.
let's hope novation was this smart, cuz i wasn't too happy that they built a vocoder into the cheaper nova a week after i paid US$2200 for my supernova32.
what's with all this effort they've been putting into a keyboard version of the supernova? was there any demand? who has room (or need) for another keyboard? i would much prefer that they focussed on new and better OS's.
let's hope novation was this smart, cuz i wasn't too happy that they built a vocoder into the cheaper nova a week after i paid US$2200 for my supernova32.
what's with all this effort they've been putting into a keyboard version of the supernova? was there any demand? who has room (or need) for another keyboard? i would much prefer that they focussed on new and better OS's.
Message 5/31 06-Mar-99 @ 06:09 PM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
Just read this @ Sonic State: "As for OS3.0 for the Supernova. It gives regular users (16voices) 20 voices, and with the voice expension you get 40 instead of 32 voices. Other features include the fact that you now can route the effects the way you like". Sounds nice but what about the vocoder & the audio inputs? It would be a HUGE mistake for Novation not to offer that as an upgrade.
Message 6/31 06-Mar-99 @ 10:15 PM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
HUGE mistake ?
Does someone really miss a vocoder ? If yes, why ? I played along with my new Virus-vocoder for an hour, really funny ...
Does someone really miss a vocoder ? If yes, why ? I played along with my new Virus-vocoder for an hour, really funny ...
Message 7/31 07-Mar-99 @ 04:49 PM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
some people just like to complain....they go round the newsgroups & forums complaining & moaning... if it had a vocoder, they'd be banging on that it doesnt sample & why not... or that it isnt a 16 track recorder as welll... blah blah.... how come no-ones complaining that as a multitimbrel synth it doesnt have a drum channel???...
as for the keyboard version... if nova released a keyboard first, they'd be complaining that the new rack version is cheaper... and why weren't they told a rack was coming out etc etc.... I'd say for performers, a Super-nova keyboard would be a must... ever tried playing live with patched in controllers in a multi-keyboard setup ????.... nuff-said//... as for the audio inputs, i have 3 synths that allow audio in , never used it on any of them......
finally, i sometimes think some people forget or have no experience of synths going back a few years... paying 2200 & more, ... not for a supernova, but for a box/rack with card expansion to save edits at 250 per throw.... cursors & menu's to edit....restricted effects inmulti-mode.. (simply - no use at all).... steppy digital synthesis & filters etc, no onbaord controlllers, plus a brain-surgery to edit & create new sounds quickly....
so lets get real... it's so simple to knock things... The Supernova gives you a huge multisynth for studio or live... all the sounds you want... amazingly fast & creative sound editing & creation...... in a live context or studio, no need for a mixer & several multi-fx units to use in multimode....all in all....well, synth of the year basically... probably of the decade i'd say... I think basically, Novation's effort will alter the entire industry... it already has in fact....
as for the keyboard version... if nova released a keyboard first, they'd be complaining that the new rack version is cheaper... and why weren't they told a rack was coming out etc etc.... I'd say for performers, a Super-nova keyboard would be a must... ever tried playing live with patched in controllers in a multi-keyboard setup ????.... nuff-said//... as for the audio inputs, i have 3 synths that allow audio in , never used it on any of them......
finally, i sometimes think some people forget or have no experience of synths going back a few years... paying 2200 & more, ... not for a supernova, but for a box/rack with card expansion to save edits at 250 per throw.... cursors & menu's to edit....restricted effects inmulti-mode.. (simply - no use at all).... steppy digital synthesis & filters etc, no onbaord controlllers, plus a brain-surgery to edit & create new sounds quickly....
so lets get real... it's so simple to knock things... The Supernova gives you a huge multisynth for studio or live... all the sounds you want... amazingly fast & creative sound editing & creation...... in a live context or studio, no need for a mixer & several multi-fx units to use in multimode....all in all....well, synth of the year basically... probably of the decade i'd say... I think basically, Novation's effort will alter the entire industry... it already has in fact....
Message 8/31 08-Mar-99 @ 01:17 AM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
Punter-
Nice try simply brushing me off as a "complainer", but I rarely complain about anything & I feel my complaint (lack of Vocoder/audio inputs) is justified."as for the keyboard version... if nova released a keyboard first,
they'd be complaining that the new rack version is cheaper..." I've never heard something so completely ridiculous! Who in their right mind would expect a keyboard to be cheaper then a rack? By the way, I've been programming synths for 17 years now & have spent in the neighborhood of $50,000 for my equipment over the years. I'm not offering that information to brag, just to show you how far off you are in your estimation. The Supernova is a wonderful synth, but synth of the year? I'd agree with you for 1998, but not this year. Aren't you familiar with Waldorf's Q?
Nice try simply brushing me off as a "complainer", but I rarely complain about anything & I feel my complaint (lack of Vocoder/audio inputs) is justified."as for the keyboard version... if nova released a keyboard first,
they'd be complaining that the new rack version is cheaper..." I've never heard something so completely ridiculous! Who in their right mind would expect a keyboard to be cheaper then a rack? By the way, I've been programming synths for 17 years now & have spent in the neighborhood of $50,000 for my equipment over the years. I'm not offering that information to brag, just to show you how far off you are in your estimation. The Supernova is a wonderful synth, but synth of the year? I'd agree with you for 1998, but not this year. Aren't you familiar with Waldorf's Q?
Message 9/31 08-Mar-99 @ 09:11 AM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
I just keep reading about how the OS is "being released" or "is released", yet I've found nothing.
Plus, having bought the Supernova for $2100, and now seeing that for the same, I could have gotten the 32 voice version is a bit annoying.
It seems the delay in releasing the OS upgrade hasn't been trying to "perfect" it. Rather, it seems like the delay has everything to do with releasing a keyboard version of the Supernova and this other Nova synth.
It sounds like a bottom line issue.
Plus, having bought the Supernova for $2100, and now seeing that for the same, I could have gotten the 32 voice version is a bit annoying.
It seems the delay in releasing the OS upgrade hasn't been trying to "perfect" it. Rather, it seems like the delay has everything to do with releasing a keyboard version of the Supernova and this other Nova synth.
It sounds like a bottom line issue.
Message 10/31 08-Mar-99 @ 11:57 AM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
Synthesizers are computers nowadays.
I purchased my SN last year together with a Pentium II 400 Mhz PC.
Today i'd get the 32 voice SN for the same price but 2 and a half PCs.
Greets
Stefan
I purchased my SN last year together with a Pentium II 400 Mhz PC.
Today i'd get the 32 voice SN for the same price but 2 and a half PCs.
Greets
Stefan
Message 11/31 08-Mar-99 @ 06:08 PM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
I view these statements as
legitimate concerns, not as
complaining. Many people on
this forum are experienced
programmers, and when the
gear doesn't perform as expected, we simply let Novation know what we think.
I applaud Novation for the SN and for creating (and reading) this forum, but that doesn't mean that they
have a perfect synth . . .
yet!
legitimate concerns, not as
complaining. Many people on
this forum are experienced
programmers, and when the
gear doesn't perform as expected, we simply let Novation know what we think.
I applaud Novation for the SN and for creating (and reading) this forum, but that doesn't mean that they
have a perfect synth . . .
yet!
Message 12/31 08-Mar-99 @ 07:32 PM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
Unfortunately many companies rush out the hardware as soon as its ready, not waiting until the programmers have the software bugfixed. One extreme annoying example is the Supernova with OS 1: How can a company ship a product with this terrific delay-click-bug. Did no one test this feature before shipping the unit ??? Unbelievable...
Mickey / addicted to MIDI Clock Delays... therefore a bit angry because OS 2 still clicks... :-) & appreciating the OS 3 promise...
Mickey / addicted to MIDI Clock Delays... therefore a bit angry because OS 2 still clicks... :-) & appreciating the OS 3 promise...
Message 13/31 09-Mar-99 @ 07:14 PM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
Yo... Great to hear some people like what we do...
Some people just like to knife us...
We will release V3 ASAP,
When you get it your polyphony will be expanded to 20 Voices on the 16 voice model and 44 on the 32 Voice model...
New sounds...
Expanded Midi spec...
12 effect configutations with realime Morphing...
16 really shit hot Reverb types...
It's FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Phill@Novation
Some people just like to knife us...
We will release V3 ASAP,
When you get it your polyphony will be expanded to 20 Voices on the 16 voice model and 44 on the 32 Voice model...
New sounds...
Expanded Midi spec...
12 effect configutations with realime Morphing...
16 really shit hot Reverb types...
It's FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Phill@Novation
Message 14/31 09-Mar-99 @ 09:09 PM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
Wow an extra 4 voices (for my 16 voice) for Free! I can't wait. All those people moaning should try and get service like this from one of those big companies, you know the ones.
Three cheers for Novation.
Three cheers for Novation.
Message 15/31 10-Mar-99 @ 12:02 AM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
Phill: So we won't get additional filter models and additional oscillator waveforms ? Hmmm... is this supposed for OS 4 ?
Mickey / who "just can't get enough"
Mickey / who "just can't get enough"
Message 16/31 10-Mar-99 @ 01:13 AM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
Yeah, 4 extra voices is good but I was hoping for a new function that would write an instant classic No.1 hit and then press another button and out pops a plate with kaviar and a bottle of Champagne, oh and what about a twiddle on the resonance knob and out pops Claudia Schiffer naked and holding a bag full of money for me. Honestly Phil, I thought you had your finger on the pulse of us Supernova users. Maybe OS4 then.... ;-)
Message 17/31 10-Mar-99 @ 05:44 AM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
Been using my SN again all evening
and came to the same conclusion I always come to when I sit down and use this thing for a while: IT IS
AWESOME!
and came to the same conclusion I always come to when I sit down and use this thing for a while: IT IS
AWESOME!
Message 18/31 10-Mar-99 @ 03:36 PM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
well Lostwire... what the fuck did you buy a synth with NO vocoder for if that is what you wanted??........ next you'll be complaining cos it ISN'T also a multitrack recorder !!??...
.... I mean..... did it say it had a vocoder fitted when you bought it?.... no.... so how the hell is that "not performing as expected" ??.... and being an experienced programmer as you say, then you've even less excuse for purchasing a unit that isnt what you want, as you should be fully aware of a units capabilities, unlike a newbie....
so... are you saying, that given the choice, you'd rather have less polyphony....less outs etc, yet HAVE the vocosder & audio IN's?...... why not complement your supernova with a vocoder unit ?...
what i want to know is... how.. is your complaint of lack of vocoder & audio in's justified?....surely, it's simply cos you want it?....
lastly, .... if a vocoder is so important to you... you must be a few sandwiches short of a picnic to claim you've spent 50K on kit over the years, and then moan cos you ommited to purchase a vocoder... i can buy a house for that price... if you want one so much, how come you never bought one before??....THAT... to me, logically leads to the conclusion that you are in fact just pissed cos you want more....simply cos it's on another different unit...
Now.... to mr Kevin, the complaining i'm refering to is when people get a synth, then complain cos a new model comes out with different or more features... that, has nothing to do with a unit "NOT performing as expected"..... this is all utter toss...How can the supernova NOT be performing as expected?...what?... cos it has no vocoder ?.... i suggest you read the spec's closer.....
people dont walk into a Nissan dealer and buy a Micra to use around the farm, then complain cos they should have bought a Land-Rover.... you should buy kit based on WHAT YOU NEED....cos something is always going to be updated... it's called 'Moore's Law' mate....check it out...
THAT... was what i was criticising..... NOT faulty units.... or OS glitches.... anyways.... can you name me a perfect synth?..... i think criticising Novation (or implying criticism) for NOT producing a PERFECT synth is.... er.....utter cobblers
.... I mean..... did it say it had a vocoder fitted when you bought it?.... no.... so how the hell is that "not performing as expected" ??.... and being an experienced programmer as you say, then you've even less excuse for purchasing a unit that isnt what you want, as you should be fully aware of a units capabilities, unlike a newbie....
so... are you saying, that given the choice, you'd rather have less polyphony....less outs etc, yet HAVE the vocosder & audio IN's?...... why not complement your supernova with a vocoder unit ?...
what i want to know is... how.. is your complaint of lack of vocoder & audio in's justified?....surely, it's simply cos you want it?....
lastly, .... if a vocoder is so important to you... you must be a few sandwiches short of a picnic to claim you've spent 50K on kit over the years, and then moan cos you ommited to purchase a vocoder... i can buy a house for that price... if you want one so much, how come you never bought one before??....THAT... to me, logically leads to the conclusion that you are in fact just pissed cos you want more....simply cos it's on another different unit...
Now.... to mr Kevin, the complaining i'm refering to is when people get a synth, then complain cos a new model comes out with different or more features... that, has nothing to do with a unit "NOT performing as expected"..... this is all utter toss...How can the supernova NOT be performing as expected?...what?... cos it has no vocoder ?.... i suggest you read the spec's closer.....
people dont walk into a Nissan dealer and buy a Micra to use around the farm, then complain cos they should have bought a Land-Rover.... you should buy kit based on WHAT YOU NEED....cos something is always going to be updated... it's called 'Moore's Law' mate....check it out...
THAT... was what i was criticising..... NOT faulty units.... or OS glitches.... anyways.... can you name me a perfect synth?..... i think criticising Novation (or implying criticism) for NOT producing a PERFECT synth is.... er.....utter cobblers
Message 19/31 10-Mar-99 @ 04:34 PM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
You'll get new waves and filters in OS4. we are already discussing the possibilities...
Phill@Novation
We will do a special OS for me with the Claudia Schiffer Thing...
You can keep the Champange...My version will supply a Crate of German lager!!!
Phill@Novation
We will do a special OS for me with the Claudia Schiffer Thing...
You can keep the Champange...My version will supply a Crate of German lager!!!
Message 20/31 10-Mar-99 @ 05:46 PM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
Even Claudia is growing older, so don't waste too much time on OS 3 ;-)
and tell your programmers that only Bitburger Pils is worth to be served by an SN, may be Krombacher cause of their nice advertising: http://home.nikoma.de/hirada/Truth/
Sincerely
Stefan
and tell your programmers that only Bitburger Pils is worth to be served by an SN, may be Krombacher cause of their nice advertising: http://home.nikoma.de/hirada/Truth/
Sincerely
Stefan
Message 21/31 10-Mar-99 @ 06:56 PM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
No criticism intended, Punter. I think we all agree that Novation has built a great synth, and that they should be commended for listening to the users. You are correct
that "functionality" problems are quite different
from "feature" problems. Many companies leave last
year's product behind when
developing a new one,
thus sticking users with a
buggy unit that will never be fixed. When the Nova was
announced, many users probably felt that this was what was happening to them
and, having the forum to express their frustration,
proceeded to express it. None of my comments have been intended as an attack on Novation or the SN, and I'm sure this is true for most of the folks on this forum, but maybe some of us could learn to chill a little bit.
that "functionality" problems are quite different
from "feature" problems. Many companies leave last
year's product behind when
developing a new one,
thus sticking users with a
buggy unit that will never be fixed. When the Nova was
announced, many users probably felt that this was what was happening to them
and, having the forum to express their frustration,
proceeded to express it. None of my comments have been intended as an attack on Novation or the SN, and I'm sure this is true for most of the folks on this forum, but maybe some of us could learn to chill a little bit.
Message 22/31 10-Mar-99 @ 07:04 PM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
Punter-
If you're going to quote me ("not performing as expected") please do, but don't make up your own & present it as if I said them so you can base your argument around. I bought the Supernova because I loved it's features & sound, & it allowed me to put a few synths in storage so I could free up some space in my studio, which you're welcome to visit since you seem to doubt its existance. My issue with the vocoder is one shared by many. I am not knocking the SN, I am simply pointing out that the lack of a vocoder will hurt sales when the Nova has nearly all the power of the SN at half the price. Phil has finally explained that the SN doesn't have the power to process the vocoder as an upgrade, which is what I inquired about on a previous thread, so yes, I will look into buying a stand-alone vocoder. I bet you'll see one in the SN keyboard though if it goes into production. I'll save you the trouble of painting another picture of me by saying I'm not interested in a keyboard & I wasn't expecting one when I bought my SN rack.
You said "... you must be a few sandwiches short of a picnic to claim you've spent 50K on kit over the years, and then moan cos you ommited to purchase a vocoder...". Is it hard for you to believe one can spend over $50,000 on a studio & not own a vocoder? Synths, samplers, outboard effects, mixers, recording equipment, computers & monitors, acoustic instruments, soundproofing, etc etc etc. I'd also like to point out acquiring pro gear was very expensive years ago. The phrase "home studio" was barely uttered.
Has this post been...clear to you...or...do I need to...break up all my sentences...with cute little dots? Oh, & I'd love to see the house you could find for $50,000. It would have electricity, right? Would I have to swim out to it?
If you're going to quote me ("not performing as expected") please do, but don't make up your own & present it as if I said them so you can base your argument around. I bought the Supernova because I loved it's features & sound, & it allowed me to put a few synths in storage so I could free up some space in my studio, which you're welcome to visit since you seem to doubt its existance. My issue with the vocoder is one shared by many. I am not knocking the SN, I am simply pointing out that the lack of a vocoder will hurt sales when the Nova has nearly all the power of the SN at half the price. Phil has finally explained that the SN doesn't have the power to process the vocoder as an upgrade, which is what I inquired about on a previous thread, so yes, I will look into buying a stand-alone vocoder. I bet you'll see one in the SN keyboard though if it goes into production. I'll save you the trouble of painting another picture of me by saying I'm not interested in a keyboard & I wasn't expecting one when I bought my SN rack.
You said "... you must be a few sandwiches short of a picnic to claim you've spent 50K on kit over the years, and then moan cos you ommited to purchase a vocoder...". Is it hard for you to believe one can spend over $50,000 on a studio & not own a vocoder? Synths, samplers, outboard effects, mixers, recording equipment, computers & monitors, acoustic instruments, soundproofing, etc etc etc. I'd also like to point out acquiring pro gear was very expensive years ago. The phrase "home studio" was barely uttered.
Has this post been...clear to you...or...do I need to...break up all my sentences...with cute little dots? Oh, & I'd love to see the house you could find for $50,000. It would have electricity, right? Would I have to swim out to it?
Message 23/31 11-Mar-99 @ 01:31 AM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
Wooohhh..Lets cool it on this thread.
I bought a Ford Model A, black of course. Now those B$#%^&*ts at Ford have just released a new model car and its got a CD player. Why was it not in the original model A?
But guess what, none of their models have a vocoder - now that makes me feel OK
Spike
I bought a Ford Model A, black of course. Now those B$#%^&*ts at Ford have just released a new model car and its got a CD player. Why was it not in the original model A?
But guess what, none of their models have a vocoder - now that makes me feel OK
Spike
Message 24/31 11-Mar-99 @ 10:18 AM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
ha ha.....I dont doubt you bought 50K's worth at all mate, and yes i do understand the devaluation thing... I too have spent well over 25K in say 12 years.... but now for insurance purposes it's worth 11K..... morre's law as I said....Moores Law states that with any item of computing equiptment (and this includes synths), you will buy double the technology/power one year later for the same price, or the same features will half in price for each year... (or words to that effect).....in the Uk you can claim backa large percentage of the value in depreciation over 3 years for any item classed as a computing device... which includes alot of studio kit...
but.... i still maintain, if a vocoder is IMPORTANT to you.... i'd have thought you'd have bought one....
as for the house ting, Well I wasnt thinking of a retirment condo in Miami with private golf course & 24 hr Kosher takeaway mate... over here in the UK, that money will buy you a decent house outside of London area by say 100 miles that is... I just missed a fully converted 19th Century chapel about 100 miles north of London previously owned by an artist....... 2000 sq ft.... 2ft thick stone walls..... new roof.... new 3 phase electrics (if needed it's there) and full rewired regular mains... fully converted with 2 offices above 2 x 30ft storage rooms... large work area,living area off the side with gallery kitchen, shower, & bedsit area, storage etc... plus yard & parking , and large roll-thru doors with ramp.....
for about that price......
my bro's got an 18 room farmhouse for just double that price....
anyways... i'm not making up my own stuff.... you did say :
" but I rarely complain
about anything & I feel my complaint (lack of Vocoder/audio inputs) is
justified."
all i wanna know is... how is it justified??....
but.... i still maintain, if a vocoder is IMPORTANT to you.... i'd have thought you'd have bought one....
as for the house ting, Well I wasnt thinking of a retirment condo in Miami with private golf course & 24 hr Kosher takeaway mate... over here in the UK, that money will buy you a decent house outside of London area by say 100 miles that is... I just missed a fully converted 19th Century chapel about 100 miles north of London previously owned by an artist....... 2000 sq ft.... 2ft thick stone walls..... new roof.... new 3 phase electrics (if needed it's there) and full rewired regular mains... fully converted with 2 offices above 2 x 30ft storage rooms... large work area,living area off the side with gallery kitchen, shower, & bedsit area, storage etc... plus yard & parking , and large roll-thru doors with ramp.....
for about that price......
my bro's got an 18 room farmhouse for just double that price....
anyways... i'm not making up my own stuff.... you did say :
" but I rarely complain
about anything & I feel my complaint (lack of Vocoder/audio inputs) is
justified."
all i wanna know is... how is it justified??....
Message 25/31 12-Mar-99 @ 07:52 AM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
Why should Novation stand still and not develop new exciting units? Is that what some people want? Should novation make, lets say, a digital I/O expansion to all their modles just because they have one on SuperNova keyboard version?
/SwampMan
/SwampMan
Message 26/31 12-Mar-99 @ 08:04 AM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
Sure the Nova has a Vocoder feature on it and also delivers close to the performance of the Supernova. But the synth is only 12 voices and 6 part multi plus I may be wrong but the nova isnt upgradeable. Atleast I never heard that the Nova can be updated with new OS's. But even then its still not as big as the Supernova in sound library and in performance. Me I think either the Microwave XT or Virus is better than the Nova in specs wise. As for sound quality I expect the nova to be as good or if not better than the XT or Virus just as good as the Supernova. Later
Message 27/31 12-Mar-99 @ 08:42 AM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
Sorry I forgot my name.
Remember me? I was the guy who talked about how expensive the Supernova was and wish that they could have realesed it for cheaper as many of us musicians couldnt afford such prices. Well that was me if you remember. I have been gone for awhile and still havent lost all hope for Novation. I am back for two reasons. 1 I wanted to see how you people are doing and 2 I found out about Novation had released a cheaper alternative synth to the Supernova in which was one of the things that had been discused to Novation in the past. We the poor souls wanted the Supernova even if they had to make a scale down version of the synth that will make me and probably many others like me happy.
Novation I am happy that you made a more affordable version of the Supernova and plus added a vocoder feature to it. You didnt have too but thanks for the feature I greatly apreciate it. I know you have listened its obviouse you had. You cant say you didnt.
You listened to me and other people who are in the same or familiar boat. I thank you.
Its unfortunately though to late. I already bought the Roland JP 8080. It costed me $1192 US. I feel I bought a great synth. Though I kinda feel I should have bought the Virus or XT but then no one had any in at the time so oh well. I'll get them some other time.
Even though the Nova is a great product I feel that the Virus is a little better for what I would want. Its a 12 voice too but its got 16 part multi and has Spectral synthesis which is simular to the XT's Wavetable synthesis plus it also has a vocoder feature now thanks to os 2 from Access electronics. this feature will alow new sound possibilities that most other synth do not have. I think even including your Synths. I want a synth that can really sound different and analog all in one synth. So I feel the Virus synthesizer will suit my needs. Unless when I hear these synths in person some day that is when I will really know. So I may buy the Nova after all.
Not bad Novation Not bad at all.
Later every one.
Remember me? I was the guy who talked about how expensive the Supernova was and wish that they could have realesed it for cheaper as many of us musicians couldnt afford such prices. Well that was me if you remember. I have been gone for awhile and still havent lost all hope for Novation. I am back for two reasons. 1 I wanted to see how you people are doing and 2 I found out about Novation had released a cheaper alternative synth to the Supernova in which was one of the things that had been discused to Novation in the past. We the poor souls wanted the Supernova even if they had to make a scale down version of the synth that will make me and probably many others like me happy.
Novation I am happy that you made a more affordable version of the Supernova and plus added a vocoder feature to it. You didnt have too but thanks for the feature I greatly apreciate it. I know you have listened its obviouse you had. You cant say you didnt.
You listened to me and other people who are in the same or familiar boat. I thank you.
Its unfortunately though to late. I already bought the Roland JP 8080. It costed me $1192 US. I feel I bought a great synth. Though I kinda feel I should have bought the Virus or XT but then no one had any in at the time so oh well. I'll get them some other time.
Even though the Nova is a great product I feel that the Virus is a little better for what I would want. Its a 12 voice too but its got 16 part multi and has Spectral synthesis which is simular to the XT's Wavetable synthesis plus it also has a vocoder feature now thanks to os 2 from Access electronics. this feature will alow new sound possibilities that most other synth do not have. I think even including your Synths. I want a synth that can really sound different and analog all in one synth. So I feel the Virus synthesizer will suit my needs. Unless when I hear these synths in person some day that is when I will really know. So I may buy the Nova after all.
Not bad Novation Not bad at all.
Later every one.
Message 28/31 12-Mar-99 @ 10:11 AM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
so ...er... how does one use a 12 voice synth in 16 part multi mode then ?? , shurely shome mishtake ?, that'd leave you with 4 notes missing even at 1 note poly per channel?. surely all the Virus does is offer you 16 available channels... but you cant run each channel with content at the same time.... is that right?.. sounds weird... and by saying that i'm in no way slagging the Virus... it is a healthy competitor to Novation... all in all I think it's not a bad compromise they have opted for... the Supernova, for people who want Lots of polyphony either for recording, or more importantly, for say big live work where sustain of large chord pads is a must.... or... the Nova, less poly, but some interesting production features, perhaps better suited to compositional work where you have time to sample parts or h/d pats when polyphony runs out.... maybe it's like that....
all in all, regardless of our wants & needs... i think Novation have been essential in shaking up the industry .... and i can see alot of pro users getting Both the SuperN & the Nova
all in all, regardless of our wants & needs... i think Novation have been essential in shaking up the industry .... and i can see alot of pro users getting Both the SuperN & the Nova
Message 29/31 12-Mar-99 @ 10:28 AM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
Hey Jason!
Did you ever consider Clavia Nord Modular?
If you want unique sounds it should be spot on! BTW its a GREAT complement to the SupoerNova (In my opinion)
/SwampMan
Did you ever consider Clavia Nord Modular?
If you want unique sounds it should be spot on! BTW its a GREAT complement to the SupoerNova (In my opinion)
/SwampMan
Message 30/31 12-Mar-99 @ 02:35 PM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
Im not sure how the a 12 voice synth do 16 part multi my self but that is what the specs says. Mabey you can input another synth into the virus to use the last remaning parts? Who knows. As for the Nord Modular I had thought about it but I dont know. I mean I just started to understand how to play a VR analog the JP 8080 and that thing is still giving me new stuff. The Modular looks nice but I think I'll get lost and frustrated with it though. How ever the micro modular I hear packs a great punch for alot less money. Huh I guess you people arent the only ones after all. Here you bought a SN and then came the Nova as well as people who bought the Modular now came the Micro. Its all do to affordability and getting recognized I guess.
Later
Later
Message 31/31 12-Mar-99 @ 06:31 PM - RE: Whats Happening at Frankfurt?
Concerning the virus you can adress 16 different parts via 16 midi channels but never more than 12 voices at a time.
The use of this is that you can play 16 parts in an arrangement without the need to switch betweeen them via ProgramChange.
Greets
Stefan
The use of this is that you can play 16 parts in an arrangement without the need to switch betweeen them via ProgramChange.
Greets
Stefan
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