drum and bass - Synths & synthesis forums

Forums - Synths & synthesis

Subject: drum and bass

Viewing all 24 messages - View by pages of 10: 1 2 3

Original Message 1/24 12-Apr-99 @ 08:33 AM - drum and bass

z8818525

Posts:

Link?: No link

File?: No file

hi, I'm thinking about getting a supernova but was wondering if anyone on here does d&b and whether you think the snv is good for d&b, for inyafacebass. Say compared to jp8000,Z1 nord etc.

thanks for your time and thoughts
craig

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Message 2/24 12-Apr-99 @ 09:00 AM - drum and bass

z8818525

Posts:

Link?: No link

File?: No file

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Message 3/24 12-Apr-99 @ 09:31 AM - RE: drum and bass

Phill

Posts:

Link?: No link

File?: No file

Bottom end is what your asking I think...

I'm Biased but I personally think it's got a better bottom end than many you'd see on a Sydney beach!!! ( Only joking!!)

Bottom end is good...I've developed several d&b / Jungle programs for forthcoming V3 Sound banks...

Only thing I would say is you should check it out...

Phill@Novation

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Message 4/24 12-Apr-99 @ 10:35 AM - RE: drum and bass

gamma

Posts:

Link?: No link

File?: No file

I write drum and bass, and the supernova is perfect for it. I concentrate mainly on organic, non-harmonic sounds, and the modulation possiblilties on the supernova allow the creation of some VERY fluid sounds indeed. I love it. I have also found that the new OS adds even greater depth and realism to sounds I have already used in drum and bass tracks.

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Message 5/24 12-Apr-99 @ 11:56 AM - RE: drum and bass

z8818525

Posts:

Link?: No link

File?: No file

thanks gamma and phill, I'm checking it out this weekend, the snv that is not the beach, I don't go to the beach, but I'm sure there's something there for everyone, MR fussy

thanks
craig

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Message 6/24 13-Apr-99 @ 12:22 AM - RE: drum and bass

alex.ayres

Posts:

Link?: No link

File?: No file

for drum and bass the nova is too smooth. the JP8000 has a really hard dirty quality that is ideally suited to dark angry bass sounds.

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Message 7/24 13-Apr-99 @ 10:57 AM - RE: drum and bass

Phill

Posts:

Link?: No link

File?: No file

You havent heard the new sounds for V3 yet...Yes there are a lot of fat things in the voicing at present...but it can easily be aggressive...

Whatch this space...

Phill@Novation

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Message 8/24 14-Apr-99 @ 01:19 AM - RE: drum and bass

alex.ayres

Posts:

Link?: No link

File?: No file

Phil,

i dont care about the preset sounds. i always use my own, and the JP is the best instument for Drum and Bass in my opinion.

Ive realized recently why this is. The Nova is just trying to do too much with all its FX etc. But the key difference between the JP and the Supernova is the attack of the sound. The JP8000 has a real thump to it whereas the Nova attacks slower and therefore looses alot of its rhythmic impact.

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Message 9/24 14-Apr-99 @ 10:18 AM - RE: drum and bass

Phill

Posts:

Link?: No link

File?: No file

One of the key differeneces about our stuff from others is the fact that our ENVs are done at Audio rates...

That means our envs can opn very very very fast...I know you are wrong.

Phill

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Message 10/24 14-Apr-99 @ 10:26 AM - RE: drum and bass

gamma

Posts:

Link?: No link

File?: No file

Alex, I disagree. The envelopes on the supernova cut in faster than my Akai sampler! Attack settings of 7 or less are super-fast. perhaps we could get together and compare notes?

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Message 11/24 14-Apr-99 @ 12:15 PM - RE: drum and bass

miltonschwermer

Posts:

Link?: No link

File?: No file

The guy who's singing his praises for the JP over the SN does not know what he's talking about. Please ignore him. I can't be bothered to go into the principles of synthesis, but suffice to say that those of us who do know something about it will know the absolute supidity of this guy.

Milton

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Message 12/24 14-Apr-99 @ 07:09 PM - RE: drum and bass

alex.ayres

Posts:

Link?: No link

File?: No file

gamma - wait till u hear the JP again!, its not so much about the attack value (merely and arbitrary number), but more about the weight and balls of the attack.

Phil- your obviously biased - i work for no-one, i have both, and I KNOW

Milton - its not about 'priciples of synthesis', its about the sound and the music, and im my opinion the JP has much more thump. Furthermore, you dont get zipper noise on the JP. I guess your programming isnt up to scratch.

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Message 13/24 14-Apr-99 @ 07:13 PM - RE: drum and bass

Phill

Posts:

Link?: No link

File?: No file

I could show you scope traces that
proove I'm right...

But I don't want to get into that...

Phill@Novatio

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Message 14/24 14-Apr-99 @ 10:26 PM - RE: drum and bass

alex.ayres

Posts:

Link?: No link

File?: No file

Phil,

again you fail to see the point. its about what sounds good.

to reiterate my point,it boils down to the fact that Roland have had much more experience in the field field of digital synthesis - not to mention all their analog classics.

Get rid of the reverb and distortion (neither very good), and give the sound more punch.

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Message 15/24 18-Apr-99 @ 12:58 AM - RE: drum and bass

vuduimp

Posts: 60

Link?: Link

File?: No file

Personally, I just plain don't like the JP. If I was forced to buy it or the SN, I'd take the SN ANY day.

BUT, it's hard to make a judgement between the Z1 and the SN. They have such different tonal qualities. They'd accent each other very nicely, but I couldn't choose between one or the other. Better save and get both ;-)

Check

http://members.xoom.com/chemvein/

for my synth reviews.

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Message 16/24 18-Apr-99 @ 06:05 AM - RE: drum and bass

pheer

Posts:

Link?: No link

File?: No file

I've had both the jp8000 and the an1x, and ESPECIALLY for the price, I'd go an1x all the way..now that they've been discontinued, Sam Ash has a blowout on them for like 500 bones (US). Theres another option (btw - you can download all the jp8000 factory patches for the an1x, they sound 10x better on the yamaha) but yeah, I don't like the jp is what it all comes down to (although it is a fun performance synth, real time controls 4 life :P)
tony .

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Message 17/24 18-Apr-99 @ 08:24 PM - RE: drum and bass

Phill

Posts:

Link?: No link

File?: No file

vuduimp@hotmail.com

What does sound good then in your
books...

Phil

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Message 18/24 18-Nov-01 @ 05:07 PM - RE: drum and bass

deinja_pr

Posts:

Link?: No link

File?: No file

I really need some help,currently Ive been working in a friends home studio but a lot of what Ive been doing has been on a computer Im very much in to Hard tech step d&b, Im interested in buying my own equipment. My question is,
With a $15,000.00 budget what should I get?

please help me out,E-mail me!

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Message 19/24 18-Nov-01 @ 07:39 PM - RE: drum and bass

influx

Posts: 7627

Link?: Link

File?: No file

$15000? jesus!!!

dude. you dont need all that.

get a good sampler. Id say witht he price of E4xt ultra get one of those, or an akai S5000 or 6000

a couple synths...maybe 3, one true analog, one VA, and one digital for strings and stuff

a mixer...hell if you have the money and some space maybe a mackie 24/8. Good mixer for the money (or a soundcraft ghost 24?)

but..see..even Im getting ahead of myself here. Get ONE piece first. the sampler. learn how to use it and a sequencer. then move from there.

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Message 20/24 19-Nov-01 @ 08:40 AM - RE: drum and bass

Rzo

Posts: 35

Link?: No link

File?: No file

$15000 is alot. If you dont have a Mac already, I would suggest taking care of that asap. I am still dealing with a PC for midi and its crap

Go with an EMU sampler.

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Message 21/24 19-Nov-01 @ 04:20 PM - RE: drum and bass

bedwyr

Posts: 2890

Link?: Link

File?: No file

christ! don't spend that much at once! influx is right, get one piece of gear that can do everything (nearly) i.e. a sampler (+cheap midi keyboard, computer and maybe a mixing desk, mackie 24/8 will blow a bit of your budget but will last for when you buy more gear). then don't buy anything else (even if you think you 'really need this, that or the other, just to give it that special "touch"') until you know your sampler/sequencer INSIDE OUT.

ahh, if only.

then buy a synth and get into programming those, jesus, 15,000!

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Message 22/24 19-Nov-01 @ 06:08 PM - RE: drum and bass

steve

Posts:

Link?: No link

File?: No file

yes, what they said. Sampler + sequencer is all you need to lay down tight tracks in pretty much any genre and especially dnb. A synth or 2 and some efx makes a nice addition too but will only impede your development until you can get things honking with just the basics.

sampler, mixer, sequencer, monitors, controller keys ...and then when you`ve worked out exactly where your arse and elbow are you can add the other stuff.

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Message 23/24 22-Nov-01 @ 08:20 PM - RE: drum and bass

influx

Posts: 7627

Link?: Link

File?: No file

and then give the rest to US for giving good advice

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Message 24/24 29-Nov-01 @ 09:42 PM - RE: drum and bass

sitar

Posts: 3872

Link?: Link

File?: No file

I run everything on a pc and midi is fine. There are all kinds of causes for midi timing problems. You can have them with Macs too.

Yea what they said. I'm still getting my head out of water cuz I started with too much 2 1/2 years ago. If you do look at a non-va synth though, give the EMU Xtreme Lead-1 a listen. I'd say it's a techno synth with incredible rhythm capabilities and sounds to die for. Would it work for tech step and DnB? You'd have to listen for yourself.

[ back to forum ] [quote]

Viewing all 24 messages - View by pages of 10: 1 2 3

There are 24 total messages for this topic

Reply to Thread

You need to register/login to use the forum.

Click here to Signup or Login !

[you'll be brought right back to this point after signing up]

Back to Forum