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Original Message 1/33 23-Aug-97 @ 12:40 AM - Bass Station Problems...HELP!

brad

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Well, I picked up a new Bass Station yesterday and I'm already having problems with it!
What's happening is when I go to save a sound that I've created, say on channel 7, it will also save that sound to channel 1.
This, in effect is only leaving me with 4, instead of 7, channels to save on.
Does anybody know what the cause of this would be?
Here is the list of mirror saves:
7 & 1
Manual channel & 6
5 & 3
4 & 2

Any and all tips appreciated!!
One more thing, is there a way that I can sync the LFO to the tempo of my DR-660?

Thanks,
Brad

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Message 2/33 23-Aug-97 @ 01:25 PM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

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hahaha...you bought a freaking lamestation. you get what you deserve....hahaha

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Message 3/33 23-Aug-97 @ 05:28 PM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

nbenford

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OH yea? then what do you use MR.Blank!?!?

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Message 4/33 24-Aug-97 @ 06:49 AM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

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Mr. Blanks kit-list:

Powermac 8500 w/ Pro Tools III
Akai MPC-2000
Ensoniq ASR-10
Roland TR-909, TR-707, MKS-70, Juno-106
Yamaha TX-81z
MOTU Midi Time Piece AV
SCI Pro-One
MicroMoog
Lovetone Meatball
ADA Flanger
Maestro Echoplex
Oberheim Echoplex
Lexicon Reflex (2)
Mackie 1604 (2)
Sansamp
Technics 1200
various compressors, pedals, gadgets
beer
THC
caffeine

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Message 5/33 25-Aug-97 @ 08:39 PM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

brad

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MR. Blank,
Thanks for your 2 cents!!
Jackass.

Regards,
Brad

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Message 6/33 25-Aug-97 @ 09:53 PM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

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Brad, hope all is well 'n dreamland. any day now david geffen is going to bust into your bedroom
and sign you. homosexual record-biz execs love all the kiddies making disposable McDance music.

fuck you very much
Mr. Blank

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Message 7/33 25-Aug-97 @ 11:43 PM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

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Oooooh . . . look who's the big shit in a little bowl!
What, with a Tr-909 and a micromoog all that's left is
creativity!

Dick.

Love ya!
Brad

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Message 8/33 26-Aug-97 @ 05:11 AM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

avene

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Gotta say, Bass-stations are pretty weak. I had one for a while unfortunately. My advice is to trade it for a Pulse or an ATC1. These f***ers really kick !!

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Message 9/33 26-Aug-97 @ 06:28 AM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

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f***ers = filters ?

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Message 10/33 26-Aug-97 @ 07:06 AM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

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nasty little tart aren't we ?

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Message 11/33 26-Aug-97 @ 11:17 AM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

Kilo

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er....nice to see the brotherhood of dance musicians is thriving so well........er dont understand the channels thing......when you save a soundpatch dump, there's no channel assignment saved with it as far as I know ?..........so dont understand the question.......but ....YES you can clock the LFO to your DR.....simply assign the LFO to midi clock......then set the DR to output midi clock as the master........the rest of you......stop your bitchin'..........

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Message 12/33 26-Aug-97 @ 03:58 PM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

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Dear Mr Blank, referring to your previous comments and slagging off some guy who was just asking for help, can i reccommend that you diliberatly cut the brake lines on your car, accellereate upto 100mph and collide with a wall?

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Message 13/33 26-Aug-97 @ 03:58 PM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

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Message 14/33 26-Aug-97 @ 11:56 PM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

brad

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Avene:
I'm interested. If you can, send me some more info on the Pulse and ATC1 (such as who makes them, how much, etc.) Thanks!
Kilo:
Thanks for the LFO tip, I'll try it out tonight. As for my problem, let me see if I can explain it better (Keep in mind that I'm saving it on the keyboard itself, not a computer).
I will create a sound that I want to save, so I flip the protect switch to write. I then go and compare the previous sounds, find a save spot (lets say channel number 7). I hit write and flip the switch back to protect.
I then go to play my sound on channel 7. Everything sounds fine . . . until I go to channel number 1 and find that the sound that I originally saved on channel 7 is now also on channel number 1.
You see, by saving on channel 7, I inadvertantly saved on channel 1 also (by no fault of my own).
If all this sounds like I'm being sarcastic, I don't mean it. I'm just trying to explain the problem in detail.
Any way, I've emailed Sean over at Novation's US distributor, so, if this is too odd of a problem for here, maybe he'll be able to help me.
Or, I could just take the stupid piece of shit back and get a refund.

Thanks,
Brad

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Message 15/33 27-Aug-97 @ 09:55 AM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

kilo

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aha......well with the old model basstation, save position1 is/was the edit position, after which you saved the edit to whatever position number you liked........so maybe that is how this model works.......maybe patch1 is allocated as an edit buffer type place, after which you can save it to position 2, 4, 7 or whatever.......so maybe it automatically updates the first slot if you try to edit in a save patch position ?......maybe....

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Message 16/33 27-Aug-97 @ 03:49 PM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

avene

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The Pulse is made by Waldorf, a German company, and the ATC by Studio Electronics. They Both use a MiniMoog filter which sounds incredible. I did a comparison when I had both the Pulse and the BassStation, and there's no way the BassStation could compete. The bottom end on the Pulse is intense. The ATC may be better in a way. It has 512 presets and interchangable filters. You can get a 303 filter for it aswell.

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Message 17/33 27-Aug-97 @ 03:52 PM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

avene

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P.S. They don't cost much more than the BassStation Rack. The Pulse has a wicked arppegiator also.

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Message 18/33 27-Aug-97 @ 08:57 PM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

kilo

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well, the old basstation is down to £ 220 retail...........and the newer B'station has extra sub-bass so I dunno......I'd have to try a pulse.

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Message 19/33 28-Aug-97 @ 01:33 AM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

brad

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Damn! I would love to get all of this shit that you guys are talking about (such as Pulse, Super Bass Station).
However, I have to draw the line somwhere, especially considering that I don't have much of a budget and am saving up for a good computer (I have none right now).
Anyways, Kilo, I don't think this is it.
The way that my Bass Station is layed out is, I have channels 1-7 AND a special editing channel.
So, your explanation couldn't be it. Oh well.
Regarding the LFO sync (I don't know shit about MIDI right now, but I'm trying Bessie . . .):
If you could, Kilo, give me step-by-step instructions to sync the LFO to the DR-660.
I can tell you that I went from my Bass Station Midi out to the DR-660 Midi in, thus allowing me to play some Bass Station notes on my DR-660.
What happened was on some of my light drum patterns (not filled out with different rythms), I would get a cool effect that was KIND OF like a 303 (LFO on random).
Anyways, if you can decipher this, what am I doing wrong?

Kilo and Avene,
Thanks much for all the info. This is a truly good thing when you can turn to people for help and they won't insult you!!

later,
Brad

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Message 20/33 28-Aug-97 @ 11:32 AM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

kilo

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well, I aint got one, didn't you get a manual telling you how to sync up the LFO ?......

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Message 21/33 29-Aug-97 @ 03:16 AM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

brad

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Yeah, I got a manual. However, it doesn't say shit.
I guess, instead of buggin' someone who doesn't have one and is busy as shit, I could talk to a Novation rep. ;)

Thanks Kilo,
Brad

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Message 22/33 30-Aug-97 @ 12:36 AM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

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The BassStation (Keyboard Version)
looks much better than a ATC-1....

he he he .....

The BassStation is fine for Basses but
not too usable for Filter tweaking...

Mr. Blank: Your Juno 106 SUCKS !
ever heared a Juno 60, BoneHead ?

Hey Kilo Mate,

Please kick these "Mr. Blank"
personalities out of DT !

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Message 23/33 30-Aug-97 @ 12:36 AM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

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Message 24/33 30-Aug-97 @ 08:35 AM - BassStation patch`s

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Where can i find bassstation patch`s?

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Message 25/33 01-Sep-97 @ 11:43 AM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

kilo

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well.........there will be a proper NOvation site coming soon where you will be able to download B'Station patches......meantime........if you've got any.....send em in and I'll post 'em up.....

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Message 26/33 03-Sep-97 @ 01:17 AM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

brad

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UPDATE:
Well, I talked to someone at Music Industries (Novation's US distributor), and they said," Sho' is fucked up boy, eh hee hee!"
So, off to the store I go tomorrow to return it.
Avene, Kilo thanks.
Blank, I hope to sharpen my wit with you later

later,
Brad

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Message 27/33 04-Sep-97 @ 09:25 AM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

brad

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Hmmmm. My first update didn't seem to have been sent over.
Anyways, here goes.
Update:
I talked to someone at Music Industries (Novation's US distributor) and they said "Yup, it's fucked up."
So, today I took it back. I'll wait to see if the store can get another one (Hopefully not, I'd like to try something else out).
Kilo and Avene, Thanks for your patience and help.
Blank, I hope to sharpen my wit with you later

later,
Brad

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Message 28/33 06-Sep-97 @ 06:08 AM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

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ever heard of midi you fat fuck ?

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Message 29/33 22-Sep-97 @ 06:22 AM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

Bizarreboy

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My freind might I make a suggestion.Get reality and Studio
Electronic's Atc-1(the filter option are:Minimoog,TB-303,ARP 2600 and Oberheim S.E.M)I'm sure avene will agrea.Its beautiful.Don't be to hard on yourself-we all bought something that didn't complement
our needs.It happens.I'll tell you this.You're in the right place at the right time-the advise is top notch.
Bizarreboy

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Message 30/33 22-Sep-97 @ 01:55 PM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

avene

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yeah the ATC1 kicks. it's got 512 presets also.

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Message 31/33 22-Sep-97 @ 04:27 PM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

kilo

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er.....but it costs like 3 times as much..it's just a monosynth/timbrel, and when I tried it, I thought it sounded thin .....well definately not worth 3 times the price of a super basstation....or have I got the price wrong....sorry if so.......

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Message 32/33 22-Sep-97 @ 10:31 PM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

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I know it is nearly twice the price but it's essentially four synths in one. The additional filters are only $100.
As for sounding thin,I can't agrea but I love the machine and love is blinding(or is that binding)Hey avene or Kilo have you heard any thing on the waldorf miniworks 4-pole? I believe the price is around $500.This could be something to consider( the pulse is pure aural joy-sound like a name for a band;any takers it yours)
Bizarre

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Message 33/33 23-Sep-97 @ 02:34 PM - RE: Bass Station Problems...HELP!

avene

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Here in Australia the old BassStation sold for around $1100. The ATC1 sells for $1500 and is definately not thin, Do an A/b comparison with the BassStation and you'll hear the difference.

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