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Original Message 1/24             13-Sep-97  @  05:58 PM   -   CPU SPEED?

jrold

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Ive got a 5x86 133mhz , and Im due for an upgrade, I can get either a Pentium 166MMX or a Pentium Pro 200, the P166MMX is a lot cheaper, but I was wondering if the Pentium Pro 200 would be *that* much more worth, would it deliver me more tracks, real-time processing , ect.. also , Im interested in getting Seers Systems reality now that I will have a fast enough computer to handle it, could the Ppro200 get a considerable amount of more voices over a P166 MMX ? thanks ...

jrold@tstonramp.com



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Message 2/24             14-Sep-97  @  01:33 AM   -   RE: CPU SPEED?

cllu

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hey!
Why not get a soundcard with builtin processor? (yes, im talking about terratecs EWS64XL)
It works as a sampler with a very nice synthesizerpart. You can use 8 stereo 16-bit, 41khz audio and still have 32 voices (+ some effects for the audio!!!).
About the CPU.. Why not buy a processor from AMD? They are a lot cheaper and sometimes faster than the ones from INTEL (AMDK6-200 is faster than P PRO200!). I dont know about PRO so much but if u just want to have from intel then i think that pro would be better.

bye bye

Björn



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Message 3/24             15-Sep-97  @  10:23 AM   -   RE: CPU SPEED?

kilo

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well, a pc with 64 mb ram and a p133 will be better than a pc with 166 & 32 mb ram....for h/d recording...........Forget the MMX....it's a load of old bollox and wont give you any improvements over a standard chip....I'd try the AMD 166 with more ram.......it will be faster than a intel 166.......



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Message 4/24             15-Sep-97  @  12:10 PM   -   RE: CPU SPEED?

avene

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I got an AMD 233 with 80mb. With Reality I get about 16 to 22 voices, but this decreases once you start stacking filters. I haven't tried it with Hard disk recording, but I'm sure that would take up a bit of cpu. Apparently using Reality with the Pentium II 266 will give you 3 times as many voices as the AMD233, but it costs a lot more... If you want to avoid any possible limitations save a bit more and get a Pentium II 300 !!!



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Message 5/24             15-Sep-97  @  01:32 PM   -   RE: CPU SPEED?

Quasimidi is a stupid name, rave-o-lution is worse

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is the amd k6-200 quicker than the intel 200mmx ?, is this fact, lemmie know,cos i wanna buy one  



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Message 6/24             15-Sep-97  @  08:24 PM   -   RE: CPU SPEED?

kilo

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er........there aint any music programmes out there that can use the MMX technology, and it gives speed improvements over standard pentium chips only noticable by a gnat on 6 E's, a gram of charlie, and several sherbert dabs of speed !!!



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Message 7/24             16-Sep-97  @  07:04 AM   -   RE: CPU SPEED?

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It is quicker, but I don't think the floating point is as good.



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Message 8/24             16-Sep-97  @  09:16 AM   -   RE: CPU SPEED?

doubting thomas

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I don't think anyone should be too quick to slag off MMX equiped processors. The
additional MMX instruction set REALLY is useful for DSP applications (of which
audio is a prime example). Saying this, we'll only see benefits when the Software
houses change their DSP code, which (I guess) shouldn't be too far off.

But for the moment, I accept Kilo's comments.




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Message 9/24             16-Sep-97  @  11:18 AM   -   WELCOME TO THE TOUCH CHAT ROOM

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It's like having your own newsgroup !!



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Message 10/24             16-Sep-97  @  12:41 PM   -   RE: CPU SPEED?

burt

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How about buying just a straight Pentium200 ,no mmx bollocks, no k6 (floating point problems), besides straight P200`s are piss cheap now , right?



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Message 11/24             16-Sep-97  @  03:09 PM   -   RE: CPU SPEED?

Sedusa66

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Yeah, I'm about ready for an upgrade, and I'd like to know what I should get... I don't want any problems, and I don't care about names... All I care about (My computer is now OFFICIALLY ONLY used for HD recording) is that... what will work best for HD recording?



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Message 12/24             16-Sep-97  @  03:10 PM   -   RE: CPU SPEED?

Sedusa66

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Yeah, I'm about ready for an upgrade, and I'd like to know what I should get... I don't want any problems, and I don't care about names... All I care about (My computer is now OFFICIALLY ONLY used for HD recording) is that... what will work best for HD recording?



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Message 13/24             16-Sep-97  @  04:32 PM   -   RE: CPU SPEED?

KILO

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RIGHT....HEADS UP !!.........FOR ALL YOU UPGRADERS IN THE UK AND ESPECIALLY AROUND THE LONDON AREA, IF YOU WANT A PC, CALL ME

P200.........64 MB....3 GB H/D......64 BIT VIDEO CARD....... 14" MONITOR.....12 X CD.......£ 1000 QUID INC VAT, BRAND NEW WARRANTEED.....VERY WELL BUILT MACHINES......


OR.......K6 AMD 166 BASE UNIT WITH KEYBOARD AND MOUSE........(JUST SWAP OVER YOUR H/D, RAM, CD, AND VIDEO CARD ETC.......£ 350 INC VAT.......BRAND NEW WARRANTEED.......ALSO MONITORS ANALOG OR DIGITAL AT COOL PRICES.......LLIYAMA MONITORS MEGA CHEAP....ETC ETC

TO GO WITH.......ANY CARDS FROM TURTLEBEACH. EVENT, TERRATEC ETC.......PROGRAMMES/SOFTWARE....ALL THE USUAL ONES AT BEST PRICE GUARANTEED

ANYHOW.....THERE IT IS.......IF YOU HAVE TROUBLE GETTING A GOOD PRICE ON STUFF, EMAIL ME.....WE ARE NOT RETAILERS OR A SHOP.....JUST AN OFFER FOR YOU PEEPS AT DANCE-TECH...



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Message 14/24             16-Sep-97  @  04:44 PM   -   RE: CPU SPEED?

fish and CHIPS

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How about just processors?



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Message 15/24             16-Sep-97  @  10:35 PM   -   RE: CPU SPEED?

kid303

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KERRRIISSSTTT!!!!!!
If i had the money i'd buy one at that price.
Sure it isn't April 1st Kilo??



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Message 16/24             17-Sep-97  @  12:37 PM   -   RE: CPU SPEED?

Kilo

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well, I hate to dissapoint you, but here's the new prices I recieved this morning:


ASUS P55 MBUS VX 512K MOTHERBOARD (75 mhz clocked)


INTEL PPMT 200 MMX


2X32 MB EDO SIMMS


3GB HARD DRIVE


4MB EDO 64 BIT GRAPHICS CARD


FLOPPY DRIVE


PIONEER 24X CD-ROM


15" MONITOR


BRAVO S/CARD WITH YAMAHA W/TABLE SYNTH


ALTEC LANSING ACS90 SPEAKERS


2 YEAR WARRANTY

and the price ??..........to you guys £ 900 quid INC VAT !!!!........C'MON GIRLS WHO WANTS ONE !!

obviously a tad cheaper without the speakers & s/card




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Message 17/24             17-Sep-97  @  01:10 PM   -   RE: CPU SPEED?

3d

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this isnt a really cheap price at all for a system, lets work it out....A P200 chicp is now 128 inc vat, a 64 bit graphics card
is around 40 quid inc vat (128bit cards are only about 60 quid),64mb mem is 160 for 2x32`s a 3.5gig hard drive is 131 inc vat a 14" inch monitor 116 inc vat (trust monitor)
and 12x cd rom 45 quid inc vat ,and a min tower with mouse, keyboard etc 60 quid inc vat, so that works out
at £680 quid, and this is of course minus a sound card, i just picked these prices from choice periphrals in Worksop, notts, thats 320 quid less than your price above, obviously you have to build it yerself, but thats a piece of piss anyway, Im not slagging you at all, just trying to gove an alternative, afterall this is a help type place innit?



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Message 18/24             17-Sep-97  @  01:13 PM   -   RE: CPU SPEED?

3d

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awwww SHIT, i posted that after your ammended system, does that mean i gotta work out a 200 mmx system now, fuck sake!



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Message 19/24             17-Sep-97  @  01:23 PM   -   RE: CPU SPEED?

Mr Bigstuff

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All you peeps thinking of using Cubase VST for the PC, this
is what Steinberg say about MMX:

"Cubase VST does not require MMX but the program will
benifit from an MMX with an increase of approx 10-15% in
performance."

and on number of tracks:

"Intel pentium 100 6-8 tracks
Intel pentium 166 12-16 tracks
Intel Pentium 200 22-26 tracks."

They recommend Intel coz that what the used to develop
the prog but who knows, the AMD K6 might still wipe the
floor with the Pentium. S'pose they want to cover their
backs if other processors stumble in certain areas, only
time will tell.

I have a copy of VST for the pc and am using a cyrix
p133/166 32 MB but will upgrade to AMD K6/200 MMX with 64
MB RAM soon in order to run more plugin fx similtaneously.
The fx use "native" audio processor power, that is the
CPU processes the fx rather than using a dedicated DSP
chip. The more processor power the better.



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Message 20/24             17-Sep-97  @  01:30 PM   -   RE: CPU SPEED?

3d

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shit, i could make one for £950, 900 quid `Kin-ell, what ya doing robbing the computer store?



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Message 21/24             17-Sep-97  @  01:48 PM   -   RE: CPU SPEED?

3d

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shit, i could make one for £950, 900 quid `Kin-ell, what ya doing robbing the computer store?



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Message 22/24             17-Sep-97  @  05:18 PM   -   RE: CPU SPEED?

KILO

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AHA !!............ WELL THERE IT IS, THE ACTUAL PRICE i PAY IS £ 820.....but I stuck on 80 quid for myself for delivery & being such a nice guy !!



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Message 23/24             17-Sep-97  @  09:30 PM   -   RE: CPU SPEED?

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i have an 8086 with a moncrome monitor if any wnat to buy it it really flys and is faster than my friends new vic20 offers at 1000 quid i want a bbc comp for that funny two tone sound when you turn it on!!



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Message 24/24             18-Sep-97  @  05:27 PM   -   RE: CPU SPEED?

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Your a nob, I`ll tell you what , i`ll give you 2 grand for it



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