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Subject: HELP ON SY77's DISK DRIVE !!!! S.O.S.


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Original Message 1/11             02-Apr-98  @  06:18 AM   -   HELP ON SY77's DISK DRIVE !!!! S.O.S.

ricamir

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Hi there to anyone who is so nice as to give
some advice about this one :
i have an sy77 and no complaints about the
synthesis engine itself ( though FM is a puzzling
way of synthesis). The trouble is with my Floppy
Disk Drive.
I first noticed that when i tried to load some of
my oldest .ALL files, the disk was recognized
as a BAD DISK. First i thought the disk was in
fact corrupted, but then it started happening
more often, even with newly formatted and
recently saved files. The only way i can
sometimes recover the information is by
loading Voice & Multi, and then Song & Pattern,
but this happens oddly.
Now i think it could be that the Disk Drive is
faulty or, in a better case, that the magnetic
head is dirty.
Is there any way to know what is the source
of this trouble?
In case it was the Drive: How could i clean the
magnetic head ? Should i replace the whole
drive ? Can i find the proper device ?
Should i turn my SY into plastic syrup and buy
a Yamaha Portasound ?
Thanks in advance

Rijkaard



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Message 2/11             02-Apr-98  @  11:06 AM   -   RE: HELP ON SY77's DISK DRIVE !!!! S.O.S.

kilo

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well, you could try first cleaning the drive with a cleaning disk........ then if it's uner warrany send it for repair.... if not under warranty.... you'll just have to get it fixed......If it's any consolation my mate just got a new A-3000 and the drive fucked up in 2 days....... back it went.......



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Message 3/11             02-Apr-98  @  12:52 PM   -   RE: HELP ON SY77's DISK DRIVE !!!! S.O.S.

Clemens.Kurtz

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Hi!

could be a problem with the adjusting of the magnetic head... I had such a problem some times ago with a Korg i3 keyboard... some files could be read, some not... but its hard to adjust a drive by yourself...

Check the following out: open your drive and take a look at the mounting screws of the head assembly... they are tighten? Any cables loose? Is any dust inside? Take an air-compressor and blow out the drive, clean the heads CAREFULLY with 70% ethylene-alcohol.

If all that dosnt help.... I think you have to buy a new one.

Ciao

Clemens



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Message 4/11             03-Apr-98  @  04:42 AM   -   RE: HELP ON SY77's DISK DRIVE !!!! S.O.S.

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WHAT?! FM synthesis in the modelling age?!!!
Man the 77 SUX-BIG-TIME!
Please throw it away, buy a NORD, turn the knobs and
start cum!!!!!



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Message 5/11             03-Apr-98  @  04:42 AM   -   RE: HELP ON SY77's DISK DRIVE !!!! S.O.S.

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WHAT?! FM synthesis in the modelling age?!!!
Man the 77 SUX-BIG-TIME!
Please throw it away, buy a NORD, turn the knobs and
start cum!!!!!



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Message 6/11             03-Apr-98  @  03:18 PM   -   RE: HELP ON SY77's DISK DRIVE !!!! S.O.S.

er kilo

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heyup geezer........ maybe you're stuck in a Nordic acid retro thing.... but FM sounds are the basis of alot of the current & classic dance styles......... the yammy FM square bass is anTHE evilist jungle sub-bass for one !!!..... life isnt all squelchy analog y'know....

(CONVERSTAION BETWEEN 2 DANCE MUSO'S CIRCA 1987)...."WHAT A FUCKING 303 & 909 IN THE DIGITAL AGE...... FUCK OFF AND BUY A KORG M1 THEN YOU WILL CUM !!!!"......



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Message 7/11             03-Apr-98  @  08:37 PM   -   RE: HELP ON SY77's DISK DRIVE !!!! S.O.S.

Clemens.Kurtz

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Hey Kilo!

Well done !! FM-synthesis is the basic. Keep it up, never throw a FM-device away!

Ciao

Clemens



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Message 8/11             04-Apr-98  @  05:48 AM   -   RE: HELP ON SY77's DISK DRIVE !!!! S.O.S.

RIJKAARD

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Thank you boys.
The first iŽll do is to try to fix it and then give you
some good news ( i hope ).
By the way, i didn't even merely thought about kicking
my SY and buying a Virtual Analog Thing.
I still love those head-hammering basses, and crunchy
NINdustrial squirks you get boosting the ( configurable )
feedback loops. Of course physical modelling is great
but i'm still exploring RCM.
Add some naughty effects, a couple of samplers, some RY30
killer loops, a pinch of guitar riffs, and you got it.



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Message 9/11             04-Apr-98  @  05:51 AM   -   RE: HELP ON SY77's DISK DRIVE !!!! S.O.S.

RIJKAARD

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Thank you boys.
The first iŽll do is to try to fix it and then give you
some good news ( i hope ).
By the way, i didn't even merely thought about kicking
my SY and buying a Virtual Analog Thing.
I still love those head-hammering basses, and crunchy
NINdustrial squirks you get boosting the ( configurable )
feedback loops. Of course physical modelling is great
but i'm still exploring RCM.
Add some naughty effects, a couple of samplers, some RY30
killer loops, a pinch of guitar riffs, and you got it.



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Message 10/11             04-Apr-98  @  07:23 PM   -   RE: HELP ON SY77's DISK DRIVE !!!! S.O.S.

kilo

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hey RIJKAARD mate..... tell us how you like the RY30..... it's got absolutely fuck-off specs..... a drum synth really.... do you have any of the expansion cards etc ??.....



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Message 11/11             11-Apr-98  @  05:25 AM   -   RE: HELP ON SY77's DISK DRIVE !!!! S.O.S.

RIJKAARD

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Well, i must thank you blokes, i recovered most of my
"lost" songfiles, though there were some i couldn't, I
suppose it's because the "saving" process was done in a
bad way. I just dared to use a cleaner disk (i hate'em)
and it worked flawlessly.
KILO you seem to be one of my kind.
Sure the RY has a killer programming engine:
*)15 voices poly (fair number just for rythms)
*)2 waves(16bit 48kHz) per voice each with independent:
Pan
Volume Coarse & Fine tuning
EG for filter and volume
EG for Pitch
Velocity response ( affecting vol, pitch or filter)
Configurable HPF or 12dB LPF or 24dB LPF (+ Resonance)
*)95 user writeable internal voices
*)31 user writeable card voices
*)174 internal/card waves
*)real time control of pitch decay pan filter wave balance
through springwheel , over-recordable
*)step recording/edition of any of these parameters
*)Wavecard compatibility between SYcards and RYcards
*)12 Velocity sensitive configurable pads
*)17 pad banks
*)4 assignable outputs, for extenal processing
*)Footswitch controller
*)extensive pattern related editing capabilities
*)100 user patterns + 100 preset
*)20 songs up to 999 parts each

the antique's corner: MagneticTape output (not a joke!)

bad side: no internal effects processor

I share my sy cards between the RY and SY without a single
bug. I deeply recommend this rhytm tank, it has never let
me down. I use it as my main rythm generator, together
with an Alesis D4 and my PC triggering drumloops.
To have an idea of how the RY sounds, listen to Curve's
drums (i'm not saying they have one, i don't know), though
it lets you create some Machinelike patts to the most
natural one you can imagine (i never use it this way).
If you want more detailed information, please make me know
through : ricamir@chasque.apc.org



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