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Original Message 1/34 07-Oct-01 @ 07:23 PM - Has digital audio won the battle??

tweaker_at_work

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I really used to love those analog equipment. I
used to work with Juno's Prophet and some Roland
x0x drumcomputers. But lately i have becomming
more and more impressed by the huge possibilities
of digital audio. Do the possibilities digital
audio give outweight the authentic sound of analog
equipment???

PS:
I still love that analog sound but Digital has
also got it's charms but the trick is not to
compare those two but make something different out
of it.

I am interested in youre opinion on

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Message 2/34 07-Oct-01 @ 10:01 PM - RE: Has digital audio won the battle??

Maarten

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Digital does not describe a certain feel to sounds as it used to I guess. Any die hard pro-'analogist' would have to agree, at least partially. I have my VirusB now for a couple weeks and already sometimes can't tell the difference between it and my (sold) SH-101, S.A. Neptune and (at times) me TB303. Still I sometimes regret having sold the SH, don't know why though but if it keeps eating at me much longer I'll search for it again. This on it's own brings questions to this topic for me, there probably is some difference when sound is created by pure electricity instead of a bunch of 1's and 0's.

-M-

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Message 3/34 08-Oct-01 @ 03:07 PM - RE: Has digital audio won the battle??

Pongoid

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No matter how hard I try, nothing matches the punch, clarity, and thickness of my analog stuff. I use both, and they both sound great in their own way, but especially for live sets, the diffrence is clear, analog is still the shit.

Ape

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Message 4/34 11-Oct-01 @ 07:36 PM - RE: Has digital audio won the battle??

Matt Hutch

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Yo Ape,

How would you compare the sound of your analog gear running through an analog mixer through the amp to speakers vs. recorded tracks, created on your analog gear, coming out of your computer audio card through the amp to speakers?

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Message 5/34 13-Oct-01 @ 11:57 AM - RE: Has digital audio won the battle??

Pongoid

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bigger, louder, and more raw. Each piece of each sound is clearer. Individual waveforms are much more distinct and defined, and the harmonic content just seems richer.

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Message 6/34 14-Oct-01 @ 06:20 AM - RE: Has digital audio won the battle??

panama

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analog is the way man... took me 2 1/2 years
to figure it out (actually, just a few days ago).
Digital has some good things about it
though... intresting modulated sounds and
good square waves here and there. BUT,
analog is KING no matter what.

Analog has this essence about it - especially
VCO synths... little shifting in tones, gives the
ear the goodies it needs... you can hear this
live definitley - it gives you more than you
need, like cutting the mix and making it
'phatter' with ease.

Run a recorded bassline off a virus and put it
through a filter factory... then listen to the
changes as the filter sweeps... now get a
sh-101 and filter it with a Filterfactory, or a Big
Briar Low-pass and hear the difference in the
sweep... something is there

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Message 7/34 14-Oct-01 @ 04:57 PM - RE: Has digital audio won the battle??

Pongoid

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try samples of an 808 versus a real one live. Just not the same beast.

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Message 8/34 15-Oct-01 @ 06:39 AM - RE: Has digital audio won the battle??

bedwyr

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is it the inherent 'randomness' of analog that peoples ears like? digital is the exact same sound every time (slightly simplistic..), if you put a bit of random-ing into a digital patch maybe your ears don't get bored so quickly?

panama, sh-101 and virus are different synths, so there will be a difference no? question is which one do u like...

ps why is analog 'authentic'?

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Message 9/34 15-Oct-01 @ 09:45 AM - RE: Has digital audio won the battle??

Bastiaan (Hajee)

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By definition Analogue is authentic (the original) since digital VA's try to copy/recreate them. I think it takes more than randomization to get that full sounds and recording an analogue on your PC than playing it back (digitally) STILL is not the same as the sound of a softsynth or VA...let me give you an example to clarify: when I record some Bach played by a real symphonic orchestra and play it back digitally tru my computer I possibly loose some high freqs and some dynamic content but it still sounds a HELL of a lot better dan any sampler or digital synth can do...same goes with analogue versus digital synths...albeit with possible lesser difference.

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Message 10/34 16-Oct-01 @ 04:41 AM Edit: 16-Oct-01 | 04:44 AM - RE: Has digital audio won the battle??

panama

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bedwyr: you kind of got the idea but didnt... as
Pongoid stated, analog on a live PA sounds
much better than a digital setup. This applys
seemingly with analog synth and drum gear.
Yes, you could prolly do slight changes in tone
with digital gear... but it's not the same thing
as with vintage analog. Voltage Controlled
Osc's warm up and get sexy... while VA's just
turn on and are ready to go. These VCO's have
real circuits and real parts making sound
exist... VA's are just code and computer
software with processors.

for me, I'd rather start with real product, then
take it further... because along the way -
secrets rely in what you 'really' don't hear.

Analog has it... digital does not!

but hey! you can write music on a digital and
rock the party ten times harder... but for me,
analog is true music to my ears.

sh-101 vs. Virus basslines? eh? just an
example of why analog has earthly character
compared to a VA.

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