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Original Message                 Date: 07-Oct-01  @  07:23 PM   -   Has digital audio won the battle??

tweaker_at_work

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I really used to love those analog equipment. I
used to work with Juno's Prophet and some Roland
x0x drumcomputers. But lately i have becomming
more and more impressed by the huge possibilities
of digital audio. Do the possibilities digital
audio give outweight the authentic sound of analog
equipment???

PS:
I still love that analog sound but Digital has
also got it's charms but the trick is not to
compare those two but make something different out
of it.

I am interested in youre opinion on




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Message 11/34             16-Oct-01  @  06:31 AM   -   RE: Has digital audio won the battle??

bedwyr

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well, i don't think digital has it, yet. as u were saying 'va's r just code & processors' - better code & faster processors? 4 an orchestra (baastian) if u modeled every handmade violin, individual vibrato & timing, position & reverb ... it's a long shot, but we just might make it  

never played (or seen) a virus, 101s are just so easy to use, it's all in front of ur face!



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Message 12/34             16-Oct-01  @  12:44 PM     Edit: 16-Oct-01  |  01:15 PM   -   RE: Has digital audio won the battle??

milan

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yeah, but theres also something to be said for the sound which comes out of your analog, and the sound of digitaly recorded analog.

once i place my Oberheim in the mix, the sound is no longer so phat and meaty, even with 20Bit/48Khz recording. it just shrumps in the size, and is no phatter than anything coming from a VA or whatever...



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Message 13/34             16-Oct-01  @  06:05 PM   -   RE: Has digital audio won the battle??

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Analouge just makes your music soo organtik, I had a recording artist try to talk me into using these real shakers and claves ect in my music cos he said it's lacking organtik feel, then I brought in the 808 and just like a real drummer the sound is always changing producing organtik vibe/feel (I've gone through loads of 808 rom kits and nothing can compare, even if I sample it directly it' loses botom and the "magic feel" to me it's the dif of being real or virtual...



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Message 14/34             17-Oct-01  @  01:14 AM   -   RE: Has digital audio won the battle??

milan

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but what when you record it? shouldnt be any different than sampling it. i mean, the variations will stay, but the sound quality wont, thats what i was reffering to in the previous post.



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Message 15/34             17-Oct-01  @  02:56 PM   -   RE: Has digital audio won the battle??

Maarten

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That's why I enjoy live performances above DJ sets, not only drooling over gear but there's something to the sound coming out directly and unprocessed as mentioned earlier.



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Message 16/34             17-Oct-01  @  03:34 PM   -   RE: Has digital audio won the battle??

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milan, the difference between (a) recording six minutes of a real 808 and (b) programming six minutes of 808 samples would be that (a) would contain 6 minutes of all the fluctuations in pitch/timbre/magic/etc. associated with 'analog warmth', and (b) would contain 6 minutes of identical, static samples. Right? I get what you're saying about the difference between live analog and digitally recorded analog. The differences between my Pulse, Virus, and Pro-52 are less pronounced once they are recorded. I can still hear the difference though. To my ears, it just gets cleaner and cleaner, the farther you stray from real analog. --knowa



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Message 17/34             17-Oct-01  @  03:38 PM   -   RE: Has digital audio won the battle??

milan

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erm... "the variations will stay, but the sound quality wont". we agree, no?



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Message 18/34             17-Oct-01  @  03:48 PM   -   RE: Has digital audio won the battle??

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duh, right.



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Message 19/34             17-Oct-01  @  04:34 PM   -   RE: Has digital audio won the battle??

bedwyr

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who said it was a battle anyway?



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Message 20/34             18-Oct-01  @  01:05 AM   -   RE: Has digital audio won the battle??

steve

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they both give music their own lick - an ob8 can`t do what an fs1r can and vice-versa. Digital is much better when its not pretending to be analogue really, the term 'va' is just a pile of wank, better 'digital subtractive' or something.



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