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Original Message Date: 11-Apr-03 @ 08:41 PM Edit: 11-Apr-03 | 08:52 PM - Rave Act Passed in US

horizens

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Bush To Sign America�s Anti-Nightlife R.A.V.E. Act

America�s nightlife industry faces an uncertain future
this weekend, after Congress voted to approve the
puritanical RAVE act, meaning crack house laws will
now be applied to all concerts, clubs and music
festivals in the US.

�Property owners can be punished for any drug offence
that their customers commit - even if they work hard to
stop such offences,� warned the Drug Policy Alliance
just hours before the Bill was passed.

�This is likely to deter nightclub and stadium owners
from holding events.�

�Every musical style will be affected, including rock and
roll, Hip Hop, country and electronic music,� they
added.

The bill was passed after Senator Joe Biden sneaked it
into an unrelated Child Abduction Prevention Act,
which allowed the RAVE act to become law without any
hearings, debates or even specific votes being taken by
Congress. Its incredibly draconian terms mean that if
just one person is caught smoking a joint at a public
gathering such as a club, party or concert, the
organisers and property owners can be jailed for 20
years.

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(helping to save American club culture)

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Message 11/45 12-Apr-03 @ 09:34 AM - RE: Rave Act Passed in US

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Q. What do you call a raver standing in the corner of a bank?

A. safe!

er... (sound of bloke fetching his coat)...

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Message 12/45 12-Apr-03 @ 09:36 AM - RE: Rave Act Passed in US

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Yo I was the one who locked the gate at that party! Hee
hee...stoned out of my mind tho, barely got it to click in
time, whew.

Another thing at that particular party was that
5lowershop's lease on that space is on the level...I
believe they had to show it to the cops. But the cops did
not/could not physically come in, so they left after 20
minutes.

hey but wait a sec- the UK's got that whole 'repetitive
beats' nonsense. So it ain't like the grass is always
greener...

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Message 13/45 12-Apr-03 @ 10:16 AM - RE: Rave Act Passed in US

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yeah, the UK has some REALLY stupid laws... and some really stupid new ones about music licensing in pubs and restaurants where people singing 'happy birthday' without a license are technically breaking the law.. duh

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Message 14/45 12-Apr-03 @ 11:40 AM Edit: 12-Apr-03 | 11:46 AM - RE: Rave Act Passed in US

Steve Roughley

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The key difference here though Zazza, and the issue that needs to be addressed the most, is that while both the UK and the US have some completely screwed laws, the UK has a far more secular government. So much in the US government is done in the name of God. No need to point out that this is a big mistake! If you do a search for this Joe Biden on Google, I'm sure you'll see what I mean. I think the last time the UK government performed any action because of religious beliefs, was when they killed King... erm.. can't remember his name, in the mid-17th century. It was realised how rediculous and dangerous such an act is and so stopped it.

The point being that we need to abolish the idea of the 'God-given-right' in any modern society. God should not be involved in any governing of any country whatsoever. God just gives those in power the right to do whatever they want without any logical reason. Just look what heppened when the US was about to join the Race-Relations Treaty in 1999, which would have helped put a stop to the Palestinian/Isreali crisis.

Regards.

Steve.

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Message 15/45 12-Apr-03 @ 01:30 PM - RE: Rave Act Passed in US

Zazza

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Yah, its an issue, but being a secular giovernemnt doesnt stop anyone passing heinous laws, look at Russia, Iraq, etc etc?

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Message 16/45 12-Apr-03 @ 02:56 PM - RE: Rave Act Passed in US

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I agree the church should be totally separate from the state in fact if we could just get rid of both of them things would be a lot better.

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Message 17/45 12-Apr-03 @ 05:15 PM - RE: Rave Act Passed in US

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"look at Russia, Iraq,"

Well, Iraq was/is a dictatorship, but I know what you mean. There are other factors at play here. Though, on the subject of Dictatorships, it is even starting to seem like Bush's Government is attempting to become a world dictatorship.

Oohhh. It's all to freaky for me atm. I'm gonna go hide somewhere

Regards.

Steve.

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Message 18/45 12-Apr-03 @ 07:10 PM - RE: Rave Act Passed in US

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Oh boy politrix.Bushka.The rave law rides the
coat tails of Amber Alert bill?That's fuxd up.Ok
everybody cross your fingers and hope we
spread more war around the middle
east..Then maybe all the gung-ho right wing
types will get chewed up in a middle eastern
meat grinder.Yep Bush has firm grip on
America.Isn't Reaganomix III a barrel of fun.I
saw Ollie North on Fux news "reporting" illicit
Jordanian arms transfers to Iraq.Talk about
irony.So let's see we want to go after
Syria,Iran,Jordain?,Yemen,Saudis,Indonesia,
Phillipines,Columbia,Paki-Afghan border
regions,Panski Gorge area of
Georgia,Sudan,N Korea,And Get involved in
the Palastenian/Israeli conflict.If George Bush
is re-elected i'm sure we won't go until 2008
w/o massive civil unrest in the US.But that's ok
cause our armed forces are trained for civil
unrest.You don't think the modern architects
of our contemporary government would have it
any other way.Do you?

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Message 19/45 12-Apr-03 @ 07:56 PM Edit: 12-Apr-03 | 07:58 PM - RE: Rave Act Passed in US

Steve Roughley

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God damn! Notice most of the Countries that the US is targetting, save of course North Korea and Iraq etc, are Countries that have helped the Palestinians!?!? Jesus! Its Leviticus all over again! What on earth can be done about these god-damned Jewish/Isreali f*@!ers who are intent on acting out the lectures of Moses? I mean the man may never have even existed! And I am pretty sure Yahweh (am I going to die for writing the name :P ) never existed. The Jewish religion is a damned nasty one and something needs to be done to stop this now that the Isrealites seemingly have complete control of the US Government and its Armed forces.

This is actually getting pretty damned scary.

Steve.

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Message 20/45 12-Apr-03 @ 11:57 PM - RE: Rave Act Passed in US

Zazza

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'Ollie North on Fux news'? Is that THE Olly North.. of Iran Contra hostage bargaining arms smuggling fame?

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