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Original Message Date: 22-Nov-97 @ 11:37 PM - breakbeat techniques

pmeehan

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Could anybody suggest a simple first time approach to creating and experimenting with breakbeats like that of the Prodigy and Crystal Method? What are the common techniques and effects used?

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Message 31/40 04-Feb-98 @ 02:58 PM - RE: breakbeat techniques

Spot

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But, yould be an absolute twat to do that though

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Message 32/40 04-Feb-98 @ 03:16 PM - RE: breakbeat techniques

kilo

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aha Spot....but......think what sounds....MIGHT come from doing that with tape edits !!??.......

get Wavesurgeon....(the demo is here)...... it's just like re-cycle....... and VERY cheap.......check the authors site (Neil Crane)......there are updated versions there.....and mucho info.....

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Message 33/40 05-Feb-98 @ 06:32 PM - RE: breakbeat techniques

biddulph

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Everyone has heard about how the dnb breaks come from The Winstons and The Incredible Bongos or whoever, but I've never heard these records - only the breaks! Can anyone make or point me to a realaudio (or similar) copy of these tunes as a whole? Not for sampling, just for curiousity and all.

Cheers.

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Message 34/40 07-Feb-98 @ 12:03 PM - RE: breakbeat techniques

Hilevelt

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kilo, have you tried Compact Split? I haven't, but it seems to be the best for archiving as well as chopping.

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Message 35/40 07-Feb-98 @ 07:41 PM - RE: breakbeat techniques

FredB

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Anyone know of any sites with midi format drum patterns
and breakbeats?
Kilo, any chance of adding some to this site?

I like to use real drum samples, but find that
individually programming drum patterns is less
limiting...

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Message 36/40 09-Feb-98 @ 02:04 PM - RE: breakbeat techniques

kilo

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mate....... if i had more time..........

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Message 37/40 17-Feb-98 @ 03:40 PM - RE: breakbeat techniques

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The main rule when creating a breakbeat is use drum sounds from as many diffrent sources as you can, example:-

`tom-tom , and snare` from `past the mission`- tori amos

`loud bang sound & metal sound` from `b-side of poison record` - the prodigy

`amazing break` from ` b-sides of betty boo singles`

`loads of sounds` from chemical bros.(but too chemicaly)

`normal drum sounds` from old �3 jazz cd`s(best allround source)

and so on ...

just listen out for snares and bass drums during a record and sample them. Heres a basic 4-mat of a breakbeat :-

00-bassdrum-1
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04-v quiet hi-hat
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08snare-1
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24-snare-2
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-hi-hat
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and repeat !

you have a cool breakbeat.

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Message 38/40 19-Feb-98 @ 08:40 AM - RE: breakbeat techniques

andy

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yeah, you're not wrong about the �3 cheap jazz CD's

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Message 39/40 19-Feb-98 @ 07:18 PM - RE: breakbeat techniques

Terrorbrain

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I hate those looped classic breaks, tho still I LOVE them on records and I still even use them myself (of course after filtering them thro 8 different filters and then cut in pieces). Also I hate sampling in my spare time, so anyone know where to get a large variety of hard bassdrum, snare and hihat sounds that sound original (no standard 909 sounds) but can be excellently used for breaks?

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Message 40/40 20-Feb-98 @ 06:12 PM - RE: breakbeat techniques

kilo

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why not grab all the 44.1's you can find on the web, then layer them, and create new kiks etc by re-sampling them.........

get the demo of Wavesurgeo...... it'll do what Re-cycle does for a fraction of the price when registered to save........ it'll also format for awe soundfonts !!...... brilliant programme from Neil Crane in the UK.....find it in the s/w section here... latest version from his site which is linked at the wavesurgeon page here....enjoy....and dont waste yer dosh with steinberg...

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