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Original Message 1/92 12-Dec-01 @ 11:32 PM - 2 New Tracks

GRosen

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whats up, I just added 2 new tracks. Saharan Desert and Iceworld. They are came out sound very bad quality when i converted them to 24kb mp3's.

Well, listen ot them and tell me what you think.

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Message 2/92 14-Dec-01 @ 12:45 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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iceworld is a bit quiet, with not a lot of bottom end. i think you can afford to turn the bass up a little, your kick is quite hard 909 style, so make your bass sound tough too. it's not my cup of tea, and i like the first acid line that comes in but i find the track a bit 'flat'. maybe try some percussion in there - conga loop or sumfink. you need to make the drums drive more, i think. where's the clap on 2 & 4? not that it's always necessary but it helps sometimes.

the other track is cool tho. still a bit quiet and muffled. the mp3 won't kill your sound if your sound is good to start with, just encode some of your favourite tracks for comparison. this track has a good dubby feel to it, a bit nu yoik in bits - maybe use less notes on that synth line : no chord changes!! i like the chugging drums but i think you need them to have a tighter sound. it all sounds like you recoreded it on an old tape deck. ;) think tenaglia, made me think tenaglia, that deep dub sound he used to do anyway.

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Message 3/92 14-Dec-01 @ 02:23 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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I don't know why the it sounds so bad after I encode it, Iceworld actually has a lot of bass, but it didn't come out on the mp3. I don't even like having them up there sounding that bad because they really do sound 100% worse the the original wave file. I wish there was a way I could post up the wave file or at least a 128kb mp3 file somewhere. There are just so many sounds in both songs that you can't hear at all. Maybe I'll try mp3.com once I figure out how to use it.

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Message 4/92 14-Dec-01 @ 02:26 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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the point is that encoding, even at a low bitrate does NOT destroy the track. sure its not gonna sound as good, but...perhaps your mix just aint all the way there?

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Message 5/92 14-Dec-01 @ 06:22 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

EcstaticHigH

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Well then what can be wrong with the mixing that would make it sound like shit when i encode it

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Message 6/92 14-Dec-01 @ 09:46 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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ice world lost me on the chord change.. think it would have worked if you'd brought in another sound at the same time, but (at least in lofi) it broke the hypno magic.. maybe a nice noise-swirl or something would make that transition work imho... finding it again after the porta sound drops out first time.. okay, it's working again.. sure is icy..

my software is telling me that these tracks are encoded all the way down to 11kHz, which would explain why both of them sound incredibly muffled.. it's your encoder for sure. i use mp3comp09e.exe, f/w works pretty good.

i dunno how the new genres and styles are, but you've got the 80's trancy acid sound nailed as far as i remember it (being in tucson and all.) pretty solid.

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Message 7/92 14-Dec-01 @ 10:10 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

EcstaticHigH

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ok, I'm going to use Soundforge to encode it for now on. And i'm going to put all my tracks up on mp3.com so you guys can hear all of them at decent quality.

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Message 8/92 14-Dec-01 @ 10:49 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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you get worse quality from mp3.com streaming on dialup. Yes.

just go mono 32/22 and put them up here.

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Message 9/92 14-Dec-01 @ 03:45 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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ecstatic - don't go to mp3.cum, you won't find many people here that will bother listening. (some do) and u'll get no feedback on production there either.

"what can be wrong with the mixing that would make it sound like shit when i encode it?"

loads of things. experience being the most important. as i said, encode some tracks by producers you like and compare.

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Message 10/92 14-Dec-01 @ 09:03 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

EcstaticHigH

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So how can I learn to mix my tracks the right way. I mean they sound perfect to me after I mix them down to a wave file. But when I convert then to lo-fi mp3 they sound like shit so I must be doing something wrong. If i'm doing them wrong thing then experience won't help me because I'll just keep doing it wrong forever. How can I learn what I'm doing wrong or just laern the proper way to mix?

Thanx

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Message 11/92 14-Dec-01 @ 09:09 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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"i'm doing them wrong thing then experience won't help me because I'll just keep doing it wrong forever"

What?

Aside, try different encoders... or... find out what frequencies are messed up in the conversion, and, if need be, compensate for that BEFORE you encode it in your mix... try different compression settings.... just try different things...

It's YOUR music, so YOU have to figure out what the problem is, usually by trial and error.

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Message 12/92 14-Dec-01 @ 09:49 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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I'd say get a new pair of monitors (that are specified to your room) and get a good pair of headphones...

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Message 13/92 14-Dec-01 @ 10:10 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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are you using a darkstar synth in there?
what kinda stuff do you use other than soundforge?

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Message 14/92 15-Dec-01 @ 09:38 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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oh stop fucking with the guy. if he realised he'd encoded them at 11kHz instead of 22kHz like i've mentioned BUT NOBODY CARED NOOOOOOOOOO then you'd all know why his tracks sound all muffly-mixed.

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Message 15/92 15-Dec-01 @ 11:10 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

EcstaticHigH

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All the sounds in my songs are from the Virus and Battery for drums. Theres a couple vocal samples in some of my songs too.

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Message 16/92 15-Dec-01 @ 09:09 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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did you hear what xoxos just said? or rather, did you read what he typed?

11k?

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Message 17/92 15-Dec-01 @ 10:09 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

EcstaticHigH

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ok influx, ur gonna talk shit cause this is the third time i put this message up but whatever.

I got some of my music up on mp3.com. Take a listen to tell me what you think.

www.mp3.com/ecstatichigh

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Message 18/92 15-Dec-01 @ 11:09 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

influx

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yeah. I am going to talk shit. most definitely. why dont you slow down just a bit? any specific reason why you have to post it 3 times?

and the sad thing is youre well aware of it but did it anyway

realization means nothing if you dont apply it

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Message 19/92 16-Dec-01 @ 12:01 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

influx

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that was supposed to be sarcastic. youre clearly an overzealous youth. ahhh remembrance

so for some reason you thought once would not suffice, nor twice? but thrice, that is the key!

so if I say STOP STOP STOP, itll work?

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Message 20/92 16-Dec-01 @ 12:13 AM Edit: 16-Dec-01 | 12:18 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

influx

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oops

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Message 21/92 16-Dec-01 @ 08:23 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

xoxos

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yep. i'm going to punch you in the face influx.

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Message 22/92 16-Dec-01 @ 09:38 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

influx

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ok. as long as I get to hit you back. I like punching sometimes but only when its agreed upon, and voluntary!

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Message 23/92 16-Dec-01 @ 09:18 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

Ecstatichigh

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i wanna punch influx in the face too, but only if he gets to hit me back

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Message 24/92 16-Dec-01 @ 09:21 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

xoxos

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odd fellow isn't he.

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Message 25/92 16-Dec-01 @ 10:13 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

influx

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yeah, he is thats for sure

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Message 26/92 17-Dec-01 @ 04:39 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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I'd like to get in on this beatdown too

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Message 27/92 17-Dec-01 @ 06:24 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

influx

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ok. now you can fuck off. you guys are serious? gimme a break. youre fucking hippies for chrissakes.

you little bitches get all worked up because I talk some shit. First little EH with his cheezy trance names and obviously inflated self opinion (oh yeah, you too sensoniq. clear what you think of yourself)

dont start with the beatdown shit. not from so far away. makes you look funny.

just because you a)cant rely on your own opinion of your "work" and or b)have no one else to listen to said work, does not mean we need THREE different posts saying LOOK AT ME goddammit

I fucking write music sometimes, too, and how often am I sniveling and whining about getting attention? pretty rare, nah? yeah.

so once again, rurik is one thing and he can fuck with me all he wants but you other self-important "artists" can fuck off because you dont know the first thing about this "beating" youre talking about, ok?

go write some fucking trance why dont you. and dont forget the 16 bar snare rolls

btw EH I went to MP3.com to do you the respect of listening to your tracks but I just couldnt bring myself to do it

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Message 28/92 17-Dec-01 @ 08:40 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

xoxos

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okay man now i'm going to tie a plastic shopping bag over your head and toss you in river with a pair of cinder blocks tied round your ankles..

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Message 29/92 17-Dec-01 @ 09:13 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

influx

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really? wouldya? make the world a better place?

actually..I float.

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Message 30/92 17-Dec-01 @ 08:15 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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use one of those plastic bags from Wal-Mart. it has a big yellow smiley face on it.

sure, it's a little extra effort, but what a surprise for the river draggers!!

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Message 31/92 17-Dec-01 @ 10:11 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

influx

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ahahahahah!!!!

Id rather die in a lake than a river, tell the truth

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Message 32/92 18-Dec-01 @ 03:27 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

sensoniq

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I can arrange that. Now get off dancetech and go take that dump

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Message 33/92 18-Dec-01 @ 03:41 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

sensoniq

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no what you bich

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Message 34/92 18-Dec-01 @ 04:40 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

influx

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dude. are you fucking SERIOUS? and you spell NOW, no, and BITCH bich?

look asshole. drop the threats and shit ok? its not becoming to your hippy attitude

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Message 35/92 18-Dec-01 @ 06:24 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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that's "britanica"-hole

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Message 36/92 19-Dec-01 @ 12:53 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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Yeah I'm fu#king serious, you're an anal-retentive bich who spends too much time slaggin' other peeps on dancetech.

Also you apparently don't understand that curse words are censorsed when writing as an unregistered user, so I use intentional misspellings to get my point accross. Got it arsemunch? Good.

Now leave me the fu#k alone, and no if/and/but/what you bich.

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Message 37/92 19-Dec-01 @ 01:12 AM Edit: 19-Dec-01 | 01:13 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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I thought it was funny anyway.

pretty sure 'bitch' don`t get censored btw, mebbe I`m wrong.

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Message 38/92 19-Dec-01 @ 04:06 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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actually the fucking cusswords dont get fucking censored if you fucking register you little shit

ever heard of prozac, mental boy? actually maybe haldol or thorazine would be better for you

do you cry that easy in real life?

and YOURE telling ME to go away? dont think so, kid. This anal retentive bich is gonna stick around and see what other nonsense you can come up with, hippy

love to see what youd have to say in person. Your voice would probably go up 3 registers, tears streaming down your face, fists clenched at your sides, infuriated at your own impotence.

you threatened me. or, rather, attempted to (looks pretty ridiculous up there, doesnt it, you threatening me with violence considering the fact that I live in FULLERTON, CALIFORNIA and you live in..where was it? HIPPY TOWN, NEW YORK?)

say if you lived in NEWPORT where the airport is, or somewhere near LAX then it might not be so ridiculous now, bich

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Message 39/92 19-Dec-01 @ 04:14 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

influx

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hey there sissysoniq why dont you go up and re-read what you wrote, about beating me up?

careful there

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Message 40/92 19-Dec-01 @ 10:25 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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i thought it was really romantic what you said about being all particular about what sort of water body you'd rather check out in.

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Message 41/92 19-Dec-01 @ 12:21 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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ahhh! bless.

don't really want to join the slanging match, but, sensoniq, why are you so wound up? give it/take it, but where's the humour?

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Message 42/92 19-Dec-01 @ 01:02 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

steve

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this thread is rapidly gaining classic status

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Message 43/92 19-Dec-01 @ 03:03 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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All I have to say is that if I EVER see you on the street Influx you'd really find out how much of a hippy from NY I am. Oh and look at you, all big and bad calling me Tyson.

You're a fu%king pussy steve, and from this moment on you can no longer sleep safe in fullerton. You call it a threat, I call it a prediction, but the moral stays the same: you are a loudmouthed homo bich who needs to be taught a very serious lesson.

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Message 44/92 19-Dec-01 @ 03:12 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

bedwyr

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aha! there's the humour.

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Message 45/92 19-Dec-01 @ 03:15 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

steve

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heh, you`re right I can no longer sleep safe in fullerton. I`ve never been there. I`ll sleep safe here instead thanks.

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Message 46/92 19-Dec-01 @ 03:35 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

bedwyr

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sensoniq, he's in luton, get him before he joins the taliban.

:P

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Message 47/92 19-Dec-01 @ 04:32 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

steve

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mujahadeen!

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Message 48/92 19-Dec-01 @ 04:49 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

sensoniq

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my bad steve, that comment of course wasn't directed at you. It was for that pussy Influx

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Message 49/92 19-Dec-01 @ 05:09 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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you should've said pussy dave rather than pussy steve then, pussy tyson.

sincerely,

pussy tom

p.s. chill out

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Message 50/92 19-Dec-01 @ 07:56 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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holy shit!!!!

you really think Im going to take this as serious as you seem to be doing? fuck..Id better hang a mirror off my forehead so I can see behind me!

anyone want a job as a bodyguard?

Tyson. want my addres? email me

otherwise, talk all you want but knock off the bullshit little threats, ok? youre embarrassing yourself

and STEVE YOU BETTER WATCH THE FUCK OUT BICH

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Message 51/92 19-Dec-01 @ 08:08 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

influx

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oh. haldol anyone?

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Message 52/92 19-Dec-01 @ 08:11 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

xoxos

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all condoms out of. yeah, yeah.. it's guess my perspective innit.

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Message 53/92 19-Dec-01 @ 08:22 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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er, my take. (ps. hey i thought i was the only one with beetlejuice arm-warmers and antennae...)

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Message 54/92 19-Dec-01 @ 08:52 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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oh my god! you killed influx! (is that me on the operating table? or is that a scene from some indian-war era MASH show?)

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Message 55/92 19-Dec-01 @ 08:58 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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oh yeah

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Message 56/92 19-Dec-01 @ 09:52 PM Edit: 19-Dec-01 | 09:57 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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I WACHING FUCK OUT INLFUX

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Message 57/92 19-Dec-01 @ 10:24 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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nah...that's my little fantasy about getting people with this nice pistol crossbow recently acquired..no one in particular..

but dave...you do realize that at this point sensoniq is probably only reading your words to gather material for his next witty reply.. i mean yeah, it's cute to watch him do his best to fill in the spaces between the profanities, but...oh f*ck it.. laugh, make comments, threaten, yay.. just be aware your insistence to have the last word is perpetuation.... *maybe* just ignore the er, yeah? hell if i know really..i like it when damballah posts images, that i do know..

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Message 58/92 19-Dec-01 @ 11:05 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

influx

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hey come on, dont scold ME ok? youre right though. although that last word thing is always funny because SOMEONE has to get it

in this case its gonna be..not me;)

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Message 59/92 19-Dec-01 @ 11:18 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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oh yes it isn't!

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Message 60/92 19-Dec-01 @ 11:21 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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perpetuation.. maybe the medium is the message eh

viva los muertos

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Message 61/92 19-Dec-01 @ 11:21 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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..i got a degree in this kind of action

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Message 62/92 20-Dec-01 @ 03:03 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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My response is going to be...nothing. That way my opponent will remain untrue to his word.

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Message 63/92 20-Dec-01 @ 04:58 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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MORE! MORE!
Come on!
Post another track!
I want more action!

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Message 64/92 21-Dec-01 @ 06:14 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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i was wondering why this thread was so big...

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Message 65/92 22-Dec-01 @ 03:47 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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What the happened to this thread....all I want was for people to goto www.mp3.com/ecstatichigh and listen to my music

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Message 66/92 22-Dec-01 @ 05:29 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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hehe. I tried, honest I did but I couldnt even get a download to work

listen..you were asking about mixes, right?

theres a thread in the tech forum. I posted a link to a prorec.com article about just that subject

in addition, you otta read pretty much everything they got there. you can just look through the archives, or search for a specific topic.

this thread got a bit out of hand, thats for sure

no what bich?!?!

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Message 67/92 22-Dec-01 @ 08:29 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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amazing

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Message 68/92 22-Dec-01 @ 08:39 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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Ok. I did.
Or am, rather. Listening to ballroom. Lofi. Dial up. Sorry.

First off, the fade in and out of the lead line is a little annoying,loses its sparkle... but its not a bad melody. Not my style, so....

Compress your bass. The drums are WAY to plain for my tastes.... need something else there.... 3 minutes so far and no hats or anything..... why not go progressive and throw some breaks over your 4/4?

Actually, so far, except for the drums and bass being very soft (not necessarily in volume, just in punch, the mix doesnt sound to bad.... when that other line comes in around 3:40 or so, you should add a bunch more drum action, and COMPRESS THEM!!! I cant hear the bass anymore.... Is it off-beat? It should be.... and that line (not the oscillating one, the other mid freq one) needs to a little more groove, a little robotic.

A good start, I guess... needs a build and alot of drum work. But not bad.

What are you using for this? Are you recording with your pc?

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Message 69/92 22-Dec-01 @ 08:41 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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Ok. I just re read that.... I apologize for the lack of coherency.... Damn crown and cranberry.

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Message 70/92 22-Dec-01 @ 05:35 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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Jeez. Well to change the subject, I just listened to Iceworld. It actually didn't sound too bad in quality on my system. A little sparse between changes maybe. I'm listening to Saharan World. Like this more. Kind of a nicely transcending and eerie mood. This track tells me it's in stereo at 32 kb and yet the other sounded less muffled. I must be loosing it. But the sound quality on both tracks is really not bad from where I'm sitting.

Ok so carry on you roudy buncha bananas .

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Message 71/92 22-Jan-02 @ 05:57 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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I just HAD to. sorry

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Message 72/92 22-Jan-02 @ 06:04 AM Edit: 22-Jan-02 | 08:13 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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Dude, Sensoniq, from the thread it looks like you have some issues you have to sort out ? Did you try the counseling? or seek some profeesional help?
Later.
Eddie.

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Message 73/92 24-Jan-02 @ 02:22 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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heh, must've had to search and blow the dust mites from this one. Still got nothing better to do with your time old geezer? Oh well I shouldn't tease, I guess if I was a creative burnout I'd be up to the same tricks

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Message 74/92 24-Jan-02 @ 03:14 AM Edit: 24-Jan-02 | 04:34 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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creative burnout? Whoa, Thats a good one, Trance-meister! Or was it "Break-Trance Meister"?

We'll see, kid. We will see.

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Message 75/92 24-Jan-02 @ 02:01 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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keep talking old timer, keep talking. You might suck at trackin but your dam good at slaggin, keep up the good work!

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Message 76/92 24-Jan-02 @ 11:40 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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I'm sorry, but you crack me up fella. Must really suck being you.

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Message 77/92 25-Jan-02 @ 04:32 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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sensoniq, you've obviously never heard influx's
tracks. and how old are you again?

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Message 78/92 25-Jan-02 @ 07:16 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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sensoniq, I heard your tracks. You should shut up.

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Message 79/92 25-Jan-02 @ 08:29 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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jesus H christ!!.... the bloody yanks are off again!

- lol!

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!

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Message 80/92 25-Jan-02 @ 10:03 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

influx

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yeah man. I got bloody yank back up. WOO HOO!!!

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Message 81/92 26-Jan-02 @ 01:33 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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quit wiling me up will you

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Message 82/92 26-Jan-02 @ 04:28 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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Did I write that bloody yank thing? Dont remember doing that

but..."wiling" you up is so fun! I'm assuming you mean "riling" no?

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Message 83/92 26-Jan-02 @ 02:05 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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you're really asking for it mister

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Message 84/92 26-Jan-02 @ 02:06 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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you're really asking for it mister

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Message 85/92 26-Jan-02 @ 02:48 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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maybe wiling is a cross between winding and riling.

i forgot about this thread, the original 'no what you bich'. ahh, the mammaries.

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Message 86/92 26-Jan-02 @ 04:29 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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yankees are yanking each other again!

yankees- wankees :-p

(just wiling you guys up

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Message 87/92 26-Jan-02 @ 07:45 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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what am I asking for, sensoniq? You gonna threaten to beat me up again? Please do! I love having a good laugh!

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Message 88/92 26-Jan-02 @ 11:16 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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come on dude, get off it already. There are two or three other cats who also threatened to beat you up on this thread -- why don't you go get your "good laugh" jollies harrassing them instead.

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Message 89/92 26-Jan-02 @ 11:31 PM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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cuz xoxos didnt mean it and certainly didnt tell me to watch my back, the EH guy is just too minor and it was indirect, AND you said it time and again that I was no longer safe in fullerton. I really liked that a lot.

oh...H..way back when but we settled that and he's probably offed himself by now that ing psycho

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Message 90/92 27-Jan-02 @ 01:50 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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take a chill pill man, I was kidding just as much as the next guy...I said that "no longer safe in fullerton" shite to get you off my back then just like I'm trying to do now. Except now I feel like being nicer about it...the high phase of manic psychopathic personality disorder seems to have that effect on a fellow.

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Message 91/92 27-Jan-02 @ 01:54 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

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my doctor is trying to lock me up you see, says I'm a danger to society...He says at any moment I could snap and make good on a threat I said I was kidding about. But I know I have enough sense not to import nonsense into the real world, dont' worry man!

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Message 92/92 27-Jan-02 @ 10:57 AM - RE: 2 New Tracks

influx

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I wasnt worried, kid

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