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Original Message 1/34             09-Apr-02  @  02:31 PM   -   things to do while live

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with your gear of course... no rockstar antics please!

here are some off the top of my head:

change out drumloops on the fly
filter up/down/whatever only your drums or only your instrumentation
do a lofi/filter/distortion effect on the last measure of 16 bars or 8 bars
actually play keys!!! (not me tho)
run up your delay feedback and then pull it back right at a change up

jamey



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Message 2/34             09-Apr-02  @  02:32 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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what i gotta be logged in to do html??? :-(

change out drumloops on the fly

filter up/down/whatever only your drums or only your instrumentation

do a lofi/filter/distortion effect on the last measure of 16 bars or 8 bars

actually play keys!!! (not me tho)

run up your delay feedback and then pull it back right at a change up



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Message 3/34             09-Apr-02  @  09:43 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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you're not asking us to write tunes for you now are you? >:p



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Message 4/34             09-Apr-02  @  09:53 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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One of the guys in The Crystal Method picks a keyboard up over his head and throws it on the stage. Can't remember which track it was he does that in, but don't you just hate it when you go to see a live gig and the band does the same thing they do when they're in the studio?



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Message 5/34             09-Apr-02  @  10:25 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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or when they do the exact same damn thing EVERY show?

that would be Scott Kirkland. And its not during any specific song...but he throws his keyboards around, and stomps around getting pissed off

rock star.

Ken Jordan is one cool MFer tho. Not that SK isnt..just a little...too...happy on himself



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Message 6/34             09-Apr-02  @  10:32 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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um no xoxos... erm thats not what i ahem was after at all....

:-)

jamey



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Message 7/34             09-Apr-02  @  11:26 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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on tour scott busted his knee becuase he
picked up the dx7 over his head, got up on the
x stand the dx7 was sitting on and threw it. he
lost his balance and fell. i think he had to get
reconscructive surgery.



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Message 8/34             09-Apr-02  @  11:34 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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That'll teach him for taking his anger out on a poor defenseless synth that was only doing what it's musician was telling it to. Rockstars.



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Message 9/34             09-Apr-02  @  11:50 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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never try to get on the x.



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Message 10/34             10-Apr-02  @  02:43 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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Hey hey!!! I throw my shit around on stage all the time!

Of course I play with a metal band  

-Craig



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Message 11/34             10-Apr-02  @  07:51 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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I like to smoke cigarrettes while I play, and you can't do that in bars in Cali. How messed is that? I make wierd faces when I play, and I bounce around a little bit. I like to have a tumbler of Oban or similar malt close at hand as well, when it can be arranged. Also, I like to do perverted things to my gear, that go beyond words.

Ape



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Message 12/34             12-Apr-02  @  02:04 AM   -   RE: things to do while live

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How about fire-breathing... No, seriously, what sort of things do y'all think makes a live set cooler over a DJ set? How about CG visuals, circus performers, exotic dancers, or a cool one I saw recently, a dude in a giant mantis costume some 10 feet tall... All stuff not directly connected to the music, but it can still be a part of a live show, although that is a bit more along the "rock star" lines....

I mean it might be pretty hip watching Pongoid make faces, smoke cigs, and drop beats, but I'm a muso and seeing someone get down with their kit rocks for me. For "crowd appeal" it would be cool to have something a bit "rockstar" to do... Course if Pongoid were to be playing in Cali, I guess smoking cigs on stage might actually be something of a spectacle... Pongoid you rock star you....=)

Peace



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Message 13/34             12-Apr-02  @  07:59 AM   -   RE: things to do while live

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rabbit in the moon... supposed to put on a killer live shows. I had a chance to see them back when the LSD flowed like wine but I went to a different party  Oh well, I'm sure I had a blast anyway.



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Message 14/34             12-Apr-02  @  10:02 AM   -   RE: things to do while live

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yeah, rabbit in the moon has a pretty crazy
visual thing going on. i've actually seen it so
many times that i'm a little tired of it.

i will see their new show this weekend though
so i'll report back on monday. maybe with
some pictures too.



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Message 15/34             12-Apr-02  @  12:56 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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Orbital puts on an excellent show. They use video on screens behind them set up for their tracks. Lights were amazing last time I saw them. And those headlights they wear are just too much....that one prop has become a trademark for them, and the headlights serve a utilitarian purpose in that they are what they use to see what they are doing. Brilliant idea. They have big bucks to use for their tours, unlike most. They grew into that position though so it can be done.



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Message 16/34             12-Apr-02  @  03:31 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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Like I mentioned in another thread we're working on having visuals for my project too. We're looking at multiple TVs and a projector synced together and to the music.. I'm thinking about running visualizations from Media Player on the projector and projecting them onto the band, more like lighting than an actual projection on a screen. Plus we want real lights too, but my wallet isn't that fat  

-Craig



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Message 17/34             17-Apr-02  @  04:14 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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I had a pretty bang up time while playing with friends, and everything just stopped while I bounced around doing a bass solo. Crowd went nuts for it. I love that shit. Best spectacle I've seen/participated in was an orgy that happened right in front of the stage while I was playing. When I stopped playing the orgy stopped too, much to my dismay, cute folks involved. That's what I call a fuckin party! It ain't for everyone, but I dig it when people can loosen up to that point.

Ape



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Message 18/34             17-Apr-02  @  09:16 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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old but cool trick is hanging a sheet in front of the performers and projecting silhouettes on it with a few different lights that switch back and forth so the shadows 'lurch' around.

not that anyone who's done that will ever look as cool as that guy that played bass for the thompson twins. but makes a good ambient light source for working on stage.



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Message 19/34             19-Apr-02  @  05:42 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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But what's the fun of not seeing the crowd?



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Message 20/34             19-Apr-02  @  08:15 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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You pick out "choice members" of the audience to be up on stage with you. The shadows become lots more interesting, especially with the long leggy ones.

That's it. I gotta take my sheet on the road.



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Message 21/34             19-Apr-02  @  11:35 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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*groooooaan*



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Message 22/34             20-Apr-02  @  12:06 AM   -   RE: things to do while live

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Bass Solo?????

Orgy?????

Talk about taking it up the bottom.......

sox



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Message 23/34             20-Apr-02  @  03:21 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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*gaaaassspp*



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Message 24/34             24-Apr-02  @  09:11 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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...nose picking. You need to have a really good mic pre, and you gotta watch your feedback else things go all snotty... fuck me... Sitar is an evil influence...

Nox



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Message 25/34             09-May-02  @  07:19 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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I'm a hide behind my gear kinda guy. Like that little punk from the pet shop boys. But my partner thinks he's a rock star so he balances it out for us. He wears those stupid all white contact lenses and body paints and shit... I couldn't do it to save my life but people dig him. We do live drumming on stage with djembe's and when I can get my crew together I work with a fire dancing troupe... That always knocks 'em out. Plus we get PAYED a lot more.

One thing I've been doing for a few months now is this: I hang a halogen projector from the ceiling above the stage pointed straight down on us, and run high intensity 3D graphix from it so that we're moving around in the projection. Honestly it's just another way for me to avoid being directly looked at while I'm working but it looks pretty cool too, I'm told. Stage shows prevent people from coming up and telling you how cool you are too. I know peole like to hear how cool they are, but it's a bitch when you're busy!!

errata



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Message 26/34             09-May-02  @  07:29 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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be like BT and jump up and down. Then tilt the keyboard forward so the audience can see your talented fingures play off key and out of time.

Scott from Crystal Method was doing this first I think. I laughed my ass off when his keyboard fell off the stand and he couldn't reach it. The part he was playing kept playing without him....

the guy from Stabbing Westward has that keyboard stand that bends, and he rides on it. I think NIN has a cool keyboard stand that folds and moves all differant ways while he plays .



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Message 27/34             09-May-02  @  08:10 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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Hehehe... I saw Crystal method play a coupl'a years ago (I'm not a big fan!) but I was hanging out in back and watching from behind. Those guys were rolling around the gear and gettin' crazy, but it was CLEAR they weren't doing what I was hearing. They would be playing keys and turning knobs but the things they did didn't happen in the music!

CHEAP!

After the set I saw a rack with three DAT machines hooked up to a sequencer!!! That ain't live music, it's live acting!

errata



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Message 28/34             09-May-02  @  10:33 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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in their favor they do a lot more "live" now

hehe...stabbing westward...Walt...I just bought some gear from that guy. Nice fella.



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Message 29/34             09-May-02  @  11:49 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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Hey Influx,

I know I fell off the earth... Long time, eh. I also know I still owe you something!  

errata



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Message 30/34             10-May-02  @  03:28 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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hey, I got one! exercise bladder control!



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Message 31/34             10-May-02  @  06:42 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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When I saw NIN at woodstock Trent had this stand on an arm that was bolted to the drum riser, and it could pivot up and down as well as front/back.. He had guys who would come out in between songs and tear out the broken keys   Finally in the end he threw the board on the floor, kicked it, and poured water on it  


I like to throw my gear around. I wish I could afford to destroy Nord Leads with each performance  

-Craig



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Message 32/34             10-May-02  @  09:46 PM   -   RE: things to do while live

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aahahahahahahah!!!

I had written you off, dude. It was just a zip drive, but we DID have an agreement.

dunno. would still like some O.



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Message 33/34             11-May-02  @  12:37 AM   -   RE: things to do while live

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I didn't forget. In fact I still use the drive on my Yamaha and every time I load up samples I think of you (ain't that sweet!) I've been on the road and producing and being an irresponsible f*ck.

I have an experiment going down this summer for a BIG FAT B-man supply (didn't go last year!)

I'll let you know when it's, ah... ripe!

errata



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Message 34/34             11-May-02  @  01:07 AM   -   RE: things to do while live

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hehe. really kinda funny to have someone pop back up and say "hey..I owe you something..."

why dont you email me? nflux1@aol.com



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