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Original Message 1/17 10-Jul-02 @ 03:40 PM - Plug-In Advise

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Can anyone recommend some Plug-Ins that are good for effecting drum loops. I was shown the GM (?)Tool ones.

I think they were a pack that included something called "Freeze" or something. Basically you grab this ball and move it around the box to get different effects going.

I've done everything (I think) with Logic's native Plug-Ins and am looking for more experimentation.

Any hints of what to buy please?

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Message 2/17 10-Jul-02 @ 06:14 PM - RE: Plug-In Advise

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reaktor is an obvious choice (you can do efx as well as instruments with it, grainclouds, lofi, and other wierdness)

i like to use the following:

opcode fusion filter (not for sale anymore)

it has really cool sequencer built in that lets you use 3 different lines that can be filters or ring mods or distortion etc all in time to the beat and with different routings (serial, parallel etc)

waves has some nice ones:

enigma (you just have to listen)
mondomod (for wierd stereo efx panning stuff)

some of my best stuff for drums has come from using the waves renisance compressor to smush the drums to death...

jamey

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Message 3/17 10-Jul-02 @ 06:35 PM - RE: Plug-In Advise

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http://www.directxfiles.com/plugins.htm

and that...

beyond the plugs on that site you will have to go to vst, there are millions of them and most are crap.

jamey

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Message 4/17 10-Jul-02 @ 07:43 PM - RE: Plug-In Advise

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http://www.smartelectronix.com/~destroyfx/

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Message 5/17 10-Jul-02 @ 07:53 PM - RE: Plug-In Advise

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the one you are thinking of is GRM tools.

check out the OHM boys plugins. pertty sick

and if you want dynamics and EQ...seriously take a look at the Universal UAD-1 card

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Message 6/17 10-Jul-02 @ 07:56 PM - RE: Plug-In Advise

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heh heh influx uses the GRM plugs to sound like BT...

the ohm are nice as well but 80 bux for a delay? what are those french guys thinking?

jamey

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Message 7/17 10-Jul-02 @ 08:18 PM - RE: Plug-In Advise

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shit there's enuff quality freeware to keep you busy for years and years. went thru around 200 plugs i did.. reckon i kept almost 1/2 of them..

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Message 8/17 10-Jul-02 @ 09:14 PM - RE: Plug-In Advise

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hmmm care to publish a list? i seem to find the loosers of the plugin world when i go fishing...

but then again i have waves so most of the things out there don't interest me (cuz i have the basics already covered) i look for more esoteric stuff i guess now.

jamey

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Message 9/17 10-Jul-02 @ 09:37 PM - RE: Plug-In Advise

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heh. thats funny. "$80 for a delay"...

er, uh, yeah

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Message 10/17 10-Jul-02 @ 09:54 PM - RE: Plug-In Advise

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i am one of the oddballs who buys my music software...

i guess $80 is good for a hardware delay tho!

jamey

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Message 11/17 11-Jul-02 @ 04:13 AM - RE: Plug-In Advise

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true... there's 100 free vst plugin fx in the samples/files section (search for 'vst')

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Message 12/17 11-Jul-02 @ 09:17 AM - RE: Plug-In Advise

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Cheers guys. I've got quite a fex Direct X plug-ins through Acid Pro 3. However, when you open Logic and compare these to Logics native Plug-in, there's a huge difference in quality. Direct X sound weak in comparison.

Influx - that's it! GRM Tools. I thought they sounded quality.

I'll check out all the links that the rest of you gave. Thanks alot.

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Message 13/17 11-Jul-02 @ 09:54 AM - RE: Plug-In Advise

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thoguht i did that a while back formant.. main chat.. think old timers is in the name. your picks might vary.

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Message 14/17 11-Jul-02 @ 03:46 PM - RE: Plug-In Advise

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its not DX vs VST

its Sonic Foundry vs Emagic

of course the emagic sounds better :-)

waves plugs have always been DX only until recently and they blow the Emagic ones away.

its the code inside, not whether it lives in DX or VST

jamey

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Message 15/17 11-Jul-02 @ 04:10 PM - RE: Plug-In Advise

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Thanks Formant. I understand now. Well explained. Which Waves ones do you like then?

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Message 16/17 11-Jul-02 @ 05:14 PM - RE: Plug-In Advise

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GRM TOOLS does rock tho... multiband filters each with a deicated envelope etc and realtime control... wacky shit! - FROHMAGE is sposed to be good, i didnt try it too much yet, but a very cool FREE vst plugin filter (listed in plugins section/site search)

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Message 17/17 11-Jul-02 @ 05:31 PM - RE: Plug-In Advise

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i really like the renissance compressors, verb, and eq

they sound soooooo much better than the other eqs, comps, and verbs out there.

thats a small package you can pick up for like 220ish...

i actually got the gold bundle which has loads of plugs plus mastering tools (cuz i master my own stuff) and taht was like 800ish

jamey

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