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Original Message 1/29             23-Jul-02  @  08:11 AM   -   Thinking of getting a

djjessex

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Weve got a few anamods ( modelers ) in the studio but we were thinking of getting a real analog soon. Ive done some research and there looks like a lot of kool synths out there t o choose from. But the price has to be realistic. I have narrowed it down to a few and was wondering if anyone out there had anything to say about these choices.

Arp Odyssey III
Korg MS-20
Korg Mono Poly
Roland Juno 106
Prophet 5

If scoped them out on ebay for around 400-800

Any feedback would be apreciated

JesseX



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Message 2/29             23-Jul-02  @  08:11 AM   -   Thinking of getting a

djjessex

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Weve got a few anamods ( modelers ) in the studio but we were thinking of getting a real analog soon. Ive done some research and there looks like a lot of kool synths out there t o choose from. But the price has to be realistic. I have narrowed it down to a few and was wondering if anyone out there had anything to say about these choices.

Arp Odyssey III
Korg MS-20
Korg Mono Poly
Roland Juno 106
Prophet 5

If scoped them out on ebay for around 400-800

Any feedback would be apreciated

JesseX



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Message 3/29             23-Jul-02  @  09:47 AM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

xoxos

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i use a pro-one.. prolly not as much as i should, due to the convenience of digital automation..

i tend to pigeonhole it for thick, deep bass, and fx.. for the fx, one feature is necessary.. being able to fm the cutoff with an oscillator.. (no aliasing, smooth hi freq sounds..) being able to combine/strack the different waveforms is an asset here..



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Message 4/29             23-Jul-02  @  10:50 AM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

Maarten

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I have only once played around with the MONO/POLY, it's OK I guess but it didn't blow me away... The Yamaha CS10 however is a force to be reckoned with, I'm on the lookout for one of those- cheapo too.



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Message 5/29             23-Jul-02  @  10:34 PM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

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from what you've listed: MS-20, King Korg. yum!



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Message 6/29             23-Jul-02  @  10:39 PM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

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A lot depends on what you want to do with it, well, not a lot, but enuff... My own vote would be the Juno106 (specially since I've seen 'em around $300 here and there) or the Prophet 5. But really, any of em should be a nice addition.



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Message 7/29             24-Jul-02  @  07:54 AM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

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yeah... the ms-2o has my main vote so far, I like the idea of real patches using cable, but I would need the SQ-10 as well since its not midi. I dont fancy playing 16th note arpeggios by hand, and in time at 147bpm. My dream machine is a roland 700 and an Arp 2600. But I dont got the dough.

As for the roland 106, it is cheap and good i hear, its my second choice...plus midi too. just have to wait and see.



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Message 8/29             28-Jul-02  @  09:24 AM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

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korg poly 61 sounds nice is cheap has dco and some have midi or the juno



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Message 9/29             29-Jul-02  @  07:23 PM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

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I don't know what you fools are thinking. Of that list, it is without a doubt the Prophet 5. That thing (rev3) comes stock already midi controllable, and has 5 times the oscillators that the ms-20 has. The MS-20 IS dope to be sure, but its just not the prophet 5. The versatility of that machine for pads, polyphonic analog, and just dope sounds is incomparable. I say this as a choice in the list. However, you din't mention any moog stuff. Why? What are you thinking? An ARP 2600? No way, go moog. Just put patch points into a Prodigy and get ill. You'l spend less then on an ARP, and then you get really sick, and buy a couple MOTM modules to go with the patched prodigy, and you're siting on a powerhouse for less than a grand and real MOOG sound. You want analog? That's one way I might recommend. Cheaper, more versatile, and better sound. You'll need to get a good controller, too. Kenton does pretty nice ones. My two cents.....



Ape



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Message 10/29             29-Jul-02  @  08:26 PM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

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what's this all about? ^

it's be pretty cool if that control module is voltage and not midi..



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Message 11/29             02-Aug-02  @  07:51 PM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

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I'm thinking of getting a digilogue.



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Message 12/29             06-Aug-02  @  01:37 AM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

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I've got digital, analog and hybrid. Real analog has THE sound.

Ape



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Message 13/29             06-Aug-02  @  07:15 AM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

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want an mks-80? anyone?sick bass and leads, warm smooth pads, auto tune, two part multi in split mode, 16 osc 8 voice monster! selling on ebay. need $700.



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Message 14/29             14-Aug-02  @  08:49 AM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

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Thanks Pog, my friend has a P5, and it just hit the top of the list. I just looked aqt the stats on vintagesynth.com and it seeems stacked for the price range. Sounds great too.

Jesse



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Message 15/29             14-Aug-02  @  06:11 PM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

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looking at studio electronics products lately... they have a little 1 part multi voice true analog NEW responds to MIDI (with solid timing) and 4 analog filters for $1400...

mmmm tastey!

e



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Message 16/29             14-Aug-02  @  07:34 PM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

Maarten

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ATC-1? Mate of mine has that synth, sounds great! Mind-boggling bass is what it can produce- and more... what can I say, it's somewhere on my list *sigh*



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Message 17/29             14-Aug-02  @  08:05 PM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

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Yup! That's the one... not a bad price for true analog, Yo!

e



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Message 18/29             20-Aug-02  @  05:59 PM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

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you would seriously spend $1400 on a mono timbral analog, when you could have a six part six voice xpander that has full midi implimentation for the same money?



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Message 19/29             20-Aug-02  @  06:38 PM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

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heh. no shit

and the ATC-1 can be found for like $450 used

Arent you thinking of the SE1x?

SE stuff is incredibly expensive



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Message 20/29             06-Sep-02  @  07:33 PM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

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don't they have the 'ATC-X' now... basically an ATC-1 with the selector and all 4 filters built in? that sounds like what he's talking about...



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Message 21/29             06-Sep-02  @  10:02 PM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

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still overpriced those guys shit.



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Message 22/29             07-Sep-02  @  09:37 PM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

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yeah, Studio Electronics do sound pretty good, but their old stuff was steppy, and they are not well priced at all for what you get. Come on, a mono-synth, with a couple different filter types for $1400. I realise it's a guy out if his garage, but still, dude. Drop the prices and sell more. He's not using all vintage components, just similar circuit designs, and the parts are not THAT expensive. The most expensive individual parts of those boxes are probably the power supplies.

Ape



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Message 23/29             10-Sep-02  @  02:33 PM     Edit: 10-Sep-02  |  02:35 PM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

Maarten

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Ahem, not the "X" version but pretty ok nevertheless

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=905221923

If I had the ca$h now I just might have...



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Message 24/29             11-Sep-02  @  04:20 AM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

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back in the day, the ATC-1 was 1000, and the filters were 300 each. xpander!!!!!!!!!!!!! wish i had one now.



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Message 25/29             12-Sep-02  @  08:25 AM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

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you gotta pay for da real shit dog! I want my oscillators to purrrrrr. And I want my ear drums to bleed and my stomach to ache when that bass hits me. Then again Ive been known to curl up next to a speaker stack and go to sleep at a all night rave.

huh? what did ya say?



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Message 26/29             17-Sep-02  @  10:51 PM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

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Everybody get your knobs on.Damn you could
buy four monosynths for that price if you don't
need patching capabilities.My boy has an
ATC-1 as impressive as it sounds the
membrane crap reminds me of a DX-7.



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Message 27/29             22-Sep-02  @  11:59 AM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

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but remember most of the big bass tracks we hear are running through a subharmonic synth that is being limited and mixed under it. trust me. listen to a song that has huge lowend and you will start to realize how all of the of the parts in the song add somthing to the low end, sweeps toms, and even strings and vocals somtimes give off bass artifacts. it's a dead give away.



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Message 28/29             22-Sep-02  @  12:56 PM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

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i suppose one great thing about all this super hard-disk stuff is you no longer need to worry about midi sync... you can run arps and play live parts and just record & loop them.



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Message 29/29             26-Sep-02  @  11:37 PM   -   RE: Thinking of getting a

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i know, i would hate to be messing with a click track and sync boxes.



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