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Subject: small format live controller?


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Original Message 1/26             29-Aug-02  @  08:52 PM     Edit: 29-Aug-02  |  08:53 PM   -   small format live controller?

99devils

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Here's the deal.. I'd like to get a small, secondary controller of some sort, mostly for triggering samples live. I'm either looking at a little keyboard type thing, like an Oxygen8, or maybe more of a control surface, like the Emu Launch Pad, or something. I need it to be small, cheap, dependable. Did I mention cheap? I guess what I really need are just an octave or so of keys, but in something small so I don't need more stands.

Are there any other small-format keyboard controllers like the Oxygen? How about other pad-based devices like the Akai pad box that came out recently? Any cheap old synths that'll work (keys are too small on the DX-100)?

I'd like to stay under $150, preferably less..

-Craig



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Message 2/26             29-Aug-02  @  10:46 PM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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used yamaha SU10



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Message 3/26             30-Aug-02  @  02:46 PM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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Now there's something I hadn't thought about..

I suppose the best solution for me really would be a good, quality controller keyboard that I can split.. But I'm cheap, and I like playing the Nord  

-Craig



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Message 4/26             30-Aug-02  @  02:49 PM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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Craig,

Fancy seeing you here. ;-)

The Oxygen8 is grrr8. The build quality is kinda cheap. But it's so light and tossable, and it can be powered no less than 3 different ways; DC power, USB, or AA batteries.

As for alternatives, I've heard that M-Audio are bringing out another smallish controller, but I can't remember the name at the moment. GC has a few other smallish alternatives, one of which has more assignable knobs and more keys - can't remember the name of it either. It's too early. :-)

Actually, I snapped up one of GC's first batch of Akai MPD-16's. It is freakin awesome - I can pound out my drum grooves now. But be aware that it only has 16 pads, and can trigger 1 MIDI note from each of 16 pads, and you can only select between Banks A and B... meaning that its maximum MIDI note range is 32, without reprogramming... But the thing really excels at drum programming!!!


Scott



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Message 5/26             30-Aug-02  @  07:15 PM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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We have to stop having discussions across two forums. My head hurts  

-Craig



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Message 6/26             30-Aug-02  @  09:57 PM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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Sorry, didn't mean to hurt joo!!! :-D



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Message 7/26             30-Aug-02  @  10:32 PM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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for under $150?



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Message 8/26             31-Aug-02  @  12:50 AM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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me likes the akai mpd16.. but 300$ WTF? its kinda ripoff. altough i might still buy it  



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Message 9/26             31-Aug-02  @  07:17 PM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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wossabaute a tr707???



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Message 10/26             31-Aug-02  @  10:33 PM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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craig..

novation made one that I think was the same as the bass station but no sounds...

MM-10 or MM10x or something like that



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Message 11/26             02-Sep-02  @  10:37 PM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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hey man...did you check out the new evolution line? Someone linked to it at another site...pretty damn cool!



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Message 12/26             06-Sep-02  @  02:49 PM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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Yes, I was looking into the evolution controllers.. I'm probably gonna hold off on this and make do with a bit more sequencing in the near term, until I can get a real decent controller. I'm thinking that's the best option, but I still don't know. I just really was trying to get a feel for what kind of stuff was out there so I didn't miss anything.

I'm also liking the idea of an Emu Launch Pad, 'cause I could re-use it as a control surface in the studio...

-Craig



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Message 13/26             07-Sep-02  @  09:39 PM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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eewwww!!



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Message 14/26             08-Sep-02  @  12:03 AM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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how eloquent of you!



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Message 15/26             08-Sep-02  @  04:57 AM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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Why thank you. I was feeling rather inspired.


Ape



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Message 16/26             08-Sep-02  @  09:15 AM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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Not a good idea?

-Craig



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Message 17/26             09-Sep-02  @  07:20 AM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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yeah P....on top of ribbing you..I was kinda curious what the EWWWWW meant

dont like the new evolution stuff?



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Message 18/26             09-Sep-02  @  07:31 AM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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nah, Lanch Pads. Hate'em. Little typwriter keys and stuff. Annoying to try and play. Novel idea, poorly executed.


Ape



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Message 19/26             09-Sep-02  @  08:26 AM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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gotcha



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Message 20/26             10-Sep-02  @  01:11 AM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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i really need a midi controller too. trying to control one knob at a time on a softsynth with my peice 'o crap mouse just sucks. what about using something like an electribe, where the knobs send midi? would that work? then i could get a drum box or synth AND a midi controller... Midiman has a controller that has some kind of space age fabric on it. you rub it and it changes the sound, i guess.



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Message 21/26             10-Sep-02  @  04:56 AM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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The surface one will be dope when the OS is complete. In the meantime, the bad boy I see everybody using it the PC1600X from Peavey. It does the job. Not too cheap though.


Ape



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Message 22/26             10-Sep-02  @  02:22 PM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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And it won't really work for triggering samples either, it's really just a fader box..

-Craig



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Message 23/26             17-Sep-02  @  10:57 PM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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Oxy 8.I think that the build quality is great for
the price.Actual metal pots.rubbery
knobz.yummy.It fits in my Adidas backpack
too.



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Message 24/26             17-Sep-02  @  11:47 PM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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agreed, its dimensions are unbeatable. and its implementation is great; i use it everytime i make a tune. but there are no MIDI zones on the oxy8. :-/

the major knock on this kit is that it's plastic, and light plastic at that... i bet if ya drop it on a hard wood/concrete floor, it would break into a gazillion pieces of plastic shrapenel. :-)

not the piece Craig wants to smash on-stage for his live audiences, me thinks. hehe



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Message 25/26             19-Sep-02  @  06:34 PM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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A controller that can take a good beating is a plus  

-Craig



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Message 26/26             20-Sep-02  @  12:27 PM   -   RE: small format live controller?

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The Peavey's nice.. but I still prefer my Control Freak Live!! And as for triggering samples, its do-able as both the Freak and the PV are more than just slider boxes... :-)

I guess you could just use some of the assignable buttons, and map 'em to the midi notes your sampelr is using (not the most intuitive solution I guess, but do-able) :-)



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