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Original Message 1/51 06-Nov-02 @ 01:33 AM - Do you do anything today?
Many of us have concerns for this and that, but never move to action. Voting is the very first step.
Heh, I even voted a democrat today (Justice Wells)
Shout out if you voted today.
Message 2/51 06-Nov-02 @ 01:57 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
still say its a sham tho. apathy is such a sad state.
Message 4/51 06-Nov-02 @ 02:27 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
honestly I dont see the point...but I guess in local elections youre more likely to see an honest result?
my case is that I just dont agree with the business as usual stuff, but the "dissenting voices" will never get enough voices to get anywhere it seems
Message 5/51 06-Nov-02 @ 02:37 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
What do you guys think of compulsory voting?
Message 6/51 06-Nov-02 @ 02:42 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
I voted Green for governor, and I mostly voted Republican and various third parties for others. I voted AGAINST John Kerry (in Taxachusetts) because he was spineless in his support for the war with Iraq.
Most of my votes were protest. I'm glad I voted. I can complain now. Local is where it starts. Vote locally and you WILL see change. Yeah yeah bitch and moan power corrupts.
Message 7/51 06-Nov-02 @ 02:51 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
Seriously, hats off to ya if ya did vote. Someone's got to raise the flag of dissent, or complacency, depending on yer perspective...
Message 8/51 06-Nov-02 @ 03:22 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
(ooo! conspiracy!) : )
Message 10/51 06-Nov-02 @ 10:53 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
"What do you guys think of compulsory voting?"
honestly...someone just told me that in australia if you dont vote you get fined.
dont agree with things? Vote "none of the above" but JUST VOTE!!!
and they pay attention. it gets heard.
dissent is only an option when its vocalized, no?
feelin pretty punk rock tonight.
Message 11/51 06-Nov-02 @ 11:48 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
is BT over by you? ;)
Message 12/51 06-Nov-02 @ 11:58 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
..and that fbi agent..
Message 13/51 06-Nov-02 @ 12:08 PM - RE: Do you do anything today?
Message 14/51 06-Nov-02 @ 12:19 PM - RE: Do you do anything today?
Message 17/51 06-Nov-02 @ 08:18 PM - RE: Do you do anything today?
Peace All
Message 18/51 06-Nov-02 @ 08:46 PM - RE: Do you do anything today?
Message 19/51 06-Nov-02 @ 08:47 PM - RE: Do you do anything today?
wait...Id rather see NO ONE in power. that'd rock
sometimes it seems like Im not even involved. Peaceful detachment?
Message 20/51 06-Nov-02 @ 09:27 PM - RE: Do you do anything today?
And I agree... low turn out is VERY telling. It tells those in power that they didn't win by the will of the people. Which does little but to thumb our nose at our leaders, and warn them that steps must be taken to control and suppress us lest we might someday upset their right to rule!
The only FBI fatality in the WTC incident was the former director, who had stepped down a month before because the administartion ordered him to stop investigating the bin Laden family. 6 floors of FBI in the south tower, and he's the only fatality?
e
Message 21/51 06-Nov-02 @ 11:12 PM - RE: Do you do anything today?
xoxos:'TOTAL HUMAN EXTERMINATION, like charity,' starts at home? Can I watch?
Message 22/51 06-Nov-02 @ 11:33 PM - RE: Do you do anything today?
Message 24/51 06-Nov-02 @ 11:35 PM Edit: 06-Nov-02 | 11:39 PM - RE: Do you do anything today?
did my job....
dissonance
Message 25/51 07-Nov-02 @ 12:08 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
Message 26/51 07-Nov-02 @ 02:39 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
citizen and all.I lost my "right" to vote.Let me
give you guys a little food for thought.Nobody
votes independent except the left.So if you
want to be spared the right,it's best to vote w/
the left.The mainstream left.Sort of how Perot
got clinton elected the left has allowed total
control by thinking that giving 10% of the vote
to a no go independent will make a
difference.It did.Good show peeps.Now they
have a majority in the
senate,house,presidency,and an edge in the
supreme court.
H- Watch our country reaganize,once
again,the rich get richer and the poor/informed
get locked up for safe keeping.I must give
congrats to non analytical thinking.If you get to
vote again and you don't like the right here's a
suggestion,DEMOCRAT straight ticket.it's not
the best system in the world but you have to
use the 2 party system as effectively as
possible.think about it.
Message 27/51 07-Nov-02 @ 03:36 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
Message 28/51 07-Nov-02 @ 06:49 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
Message 29/51 07-Nov-02 @ 08:12 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
I think those who call a vote of conscience a wasted vote are simply caving in to the totalatarian hoodwink that's been perpetrated by those best served by the status quo.
Up with the liberation! Down with the proletariat!!! hehehe
e
Message 30/51 07-Nov-02 @ 08:13 AM Edit: 07-Nov-02 | 08:15 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
yeah, that's like owning a gun to protect yourself.
psylichon
Message 31/51 07-Nov-02 @ 08:17 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
psylichon
Message 32/51 07-Nov-02 @ 10:22 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
the tory party in the uk (thats like the republicans) are just as confused as shit because the labour party (democrats) have just co-opted their agenda entirely and wrapped it up in a bit of 'we really care' window dressing...
they are busy comitting collective suicide and the liberals (3rd party) could actually take over.. on account of them being more liberal than labour.. weird..
it is very funny watching them agree with each other.. doesn't really cut it in a supposedly adversarial politcal system...
'I agree!'
'I agree more!!'
'I agree even morer!!!!'
Message 33/51 07-Nov-02 @ 01:33 PM - RE: Do you do anything today?
The idea with compulsory voting is to keep the lower-wage earner involved in politic's. I don't think a No Vote is telling, if you don't vote or don't get involved then it means they don't have to look after your interests, which is a real problem.
Message 34/51 07-Nov-02 @ 01:50 PM - RE: Do you do anything today?
Message 35/51 07-Nov-02 @ 02:11 PM - RE: Do you do anything today?
Message 36/51 07-Nov-02 @ 04:11 PM - RE: Do you do anything today?
sure...but they aren't about subsidising them with Tax payer money...which means they are more about true "free enterprise" and not about corporate welfare..which is where most of the problem lies....less gov't not more.
dissonance
Message 37/51 07-Nov-02 @ 04:30 PM - RE: Do you do anything today?
Message 38/51 08-Nov-02 @ 02:53 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
Message 39/51 08-Nov-02 @ 03:20 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
the government IS big corporation.
anyway...the libertarian thing...again, another ideology based on "ideals" but...sadly..the ethics required for a true libertarian system just arent there.
Message 40/51 08-Nov-02 @ 04:52 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
I look around and see our generation getting screwed over by corporate greed, but this is not a new thing, its been around since the industrial age, just that it has regained momentum in the last 30 years.
Message 41/51 08-Nov-02 @ 05:22 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
Message 42/51 08-Nov-02 @ 07:43 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
a la AT&T stylee
Message 43/51 08-Nov-02 @ 11:05 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
The US government is NOTHING but a puppet for the corps. Pure and simple.
and the ones from the middle down get shafted.
Message 44/51 08-Nov-02 @ 11:27 AM - RE: Do you do anything today?
Message 45/51 08-Nov-02 @ 01:06 PM - RE: Do you do anything today?
Message 46/51 08-Nov-02 @ 01:25 PM - RE: Do you do anything today?
and maybe more sport?
Message 49/51 08-Nov-02 @ 02:08 PM - RE: Do you do anything today?
Message 50/51 08-Nov-02 @ 03:26 PM - RE: Do you do anything today?
Message 51/51 08-Nov-02 @ 09:50 PM - RE: Do you do anything today?
But the system can work, its just that some corporate old boys are f*cking it over.
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