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Subject: how does it sound ?
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Original Message 1/19 28-Aug-04 @ 03:39 PM - how does it sound ?
warning: it is extremely repetitive (apart from the end break down), so if that makes you cringe, don't bother 'cause it'll annoy you for sure.
i thought maybe i should try to pan the mks "robo-laugh" around ?
xbase09
pro-one
mks-30
thanks
Message 2/19 29-Aug-04 @ 02:09 AM - RE: how does it sound ?
mix sounds kinda barren to me, not alot of direction :- dropouts etc would just happen, rather than building in and out. I dont think theres 'fills' as such in this genre (is there) but something to give the track direction might have been cool.
just now it sounds like maybe a loop of 3 or 4 synths just being filtered about with random dropouts (albeit on time/sequence).
Mix, well theres not alot to comment on i guess, but it sounds really unprocessed to me (again im probably way off as i listen to diff stuff) but i guess i would say if you do nothing else, give the kick some bump.
A *thick* kick with *solid warm* bass could really get this swinging along. ( i can hear it as i listen, and its nice )
Blu
Message 3/19 29-Aug-04 @ 05:11 AM - RE: how does it sound ?
that, especially if you're a minimalist (which I would guess you are...). Imagine
Ritchie Hawtin yelling out a disclaimer like that at the beginning of a set. IMHO I
think that your opening needs to be a bit more additive. Start with less, try
muting a few more of the seq. steps at the start and build it up. That'll keep those
minimalist haters wondering, as most of them will confuse additive
composition with developmental composition anyway. The synth sounds
are beautiful, and it all really chugs along nicely. Your exploration of timbre and
colour is appropriate, and well executed.
Yes, pan it around. Pan everything around a bit more IMHO.
I always try to remember that when composing in a minimalist style, because
you're not focussing on harmonic development, your
audience will be actively looking for other elements to keep them
psychoacoustically entertained.
Your use of timbre and colour in your synth lines is probably enough for most ppl,
but you may want to use more panning delays for those trance heads that
happen to wander into the techno room.
Peaceout,
Peter
Message 4/19 30-Aug-04 @ 02:43 PM Edit: 30-Aug-04 | 02:43 PM - RE: how does it sound ?
cheers,
Welder
Message 5/19 30-Aug-04 @ 04:10 PM - RE: how does it sound ?
a little more background on how it was made. actually, all i have recorded to date hase been in the same fashion. dial in sounds on the synths, create a pattern or two and then fade in/out and sweep at the desk. i call them impromptus. so your spot on saying it has no direction, blu. i see them as proto-tracks, sketches (to give you an idea, this particular one was made in about 15 minutes). i feel when i'm more confident with how it sounds, i can then put time in planning the whole thing, drawing in volumes cc et al. as for it sounding unprocessed, again right on the mark. it's recorded straight with a touch of reverb (well, seems like a touch to me)
". Start with less, try
muting a few more of the seq."
i guess that's a side effect of "oh, let's record this" on the fly
"The synth sounds
are beautiful, and it all really chugs along nicely"
i think we need a blushing emoticon, thanks. makes my day.
as for the warning, i feel it was appropriate in the context of asking for your opinion. if i go to hear plastikman, i know what to expect. you don't.
oh, and the kick, i have to agree with you blu, it still eludes me. maybe i should give compression another chance ? although i've read pages and pages about it, i must admit it's still over me
thanks again for the listen
Message 6/19 30-Aug-04 @ 04:14 PM - RE: how does it sound ?
Message 7/19 04-Sep-04 @ 04:16 PM - RE: how does it sound ?
i still have a difficult time with the search-function here.
it must work well for everyone else except me.
Message 8/19 15-Sep-04 @ 07:15 AM - RE: how does it sound ?
maybe a little more low-end....may>be.
a bit on the detroit-side of things but that can be nice now and again.
a good browsy listen....for readers only?
Message 9/19 15-Sep-04 @ 07:43 PM - RE: how does it sound ?
blu, i don't think every style of music needs to let you know there's a drop coming.
only thing i don't like is the ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba baaaaaah
and yeah do something about that kick, ok at the start, gets kinda lost then, not much bottom end on it. try layering the kick, one version compressed for thud, the other eq'd for bottom end etc. watch the phase when you layer them up.
Message 10/19 15-Sep-04 @ 10:16 PM - RE: how does it sound ?
blu
Message 11/19 16-Sep-04 @ 03:29 PM - RE: how does it sound ?
lol !
so this phase thing, the kicks need to be precisely aligned, right ?
i must confess it's all a bit over me, i mean, it sounds fine here. i don't understand why it doesn't translate 'there'.
as an example, i remember first listening to maarten's disc and thinking "the low end is not right" then one night i came in properly pissed and cranked it to eleven. "blimey, it sounds georgous !!" so now, i just crank it up
in a live situation, is everything compressed ? i guess there's a part of me so accustomed to hearing music straight out of the amps and drums, dunno.
i mean the neighbors can feel the bloody kick !
am i lost between loud and defined ?
Message 12/19 16-Sep-04 @ 05:18 PM - RE: how does it sound ?
Message 13/19 17-Sep-04 @ 03:48 PM - RE: how does it sound ?
Message 15/19 18-Sep-04 @ 06:50 AM - RE: how does it sound ?
there should've been a buildup to get the the one second mark but it's still gravy.
You got a good element going but pulling the elements in and out would make it
more tasty. Put in a clap damn it!!!! My impression is second by second now...
303 type sound is developing. The kick is not actually pumping and pulling, thats a
edit. It's all false now! Timing is good. The 303 sound gets layered. its okay. all of
it.
Message 16/19 19-Sep-04 @ 12:49 AM - RE: how does it sound ?
I'd love to do a remix.
Message 17/19 21-Sep-04 @ 01:29 PM - RE: how does it sound ?
a little story.
i've been working in a bookstore for 15 years now and i'm familliar with a lot of authors and "know" of the existence or at least their output of many more. there is one particular author i had never read for various reasons: time, space, motive. a friend of mine whose studying at university was commenting on this author, and i was downright fascinated. so when the book came to me, i brought it home, found a spot on a shelf and left it there for the future.
we continued in the following months with my friend, our discussions about cultural stratas, reception and perception, ethno-linguistics, translation distortions et al. he comes back with the author and brings me to a full tilt on his case. going back home, i need to read it. so i look for it. can't find it. so i look at every shelf again. and again. after about an hour i'm starting to ask myself if i have dreamed the bringing home of the book. i sit and think, trying to visualize myself holding the book. no luck. after a few minutes of brain racking, i suddenly stand up and walk towards a book cabinet, open the glass door and there it is, between Bœhme's L'aurore naissante and Flammarion's reves etoiles. altho i have no strict order amongst my books, it shouldn't have been there. or so i thought.The aleph, by Jorge Luis Borges. talk about a gift
so in order to celebrate the anecdote , i'm all for a remix
that is if you're not taking the piss, but listening to twisted man, you don't seem to.
drop me a mail through my page
Message 18/19 21-Sep-04 @ 02:22 PM - RE: how does it sound ?
How can we do? Can you upload the tracks somewhere?
I'm interested mostly in the synth parts.
Please mail me at mrotaveria@gmail.com
Bye.
Message 19/19 22-Sep-04 @ 01:14 PM Edit: 22-Sep-04 | 01:22 PM - RE: how does it sound ?
we'll be using dancetch's Projects facility, of course !
you'll find the projects section at the bottom of the drop down selector in you admin page.
i have added you, check it out
neat !
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