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Subject: seeking song critique
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Original Message 1/17 01-Oct-04 @ 11:45 PM Edit: 01-Oct-04 | 11:47 PM - song critique exchange
WILL BE HAPPY TO REVIEW YOUR TUNE AS WELL! Just email me or post it here 
I could really use some constructive advice on my new song, Synthergy. I've put all of the production techniques I've learned thus far into this song, but am getting mixed reviews. Some really like it while others think it needs LOTS of work. I could use any advice you have including any advice on the following:
1. How is the production?
2. Do you like the way the track sounds overall? Do you like the sounds I've picked and/or do they work well together?
3. Compositionally, how does the song rate?
4. What genre do you think this fits with?
THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR ADVICE. Let me know what song you would like me to review of yours!
e
I could really use some constructive advice on my new song, Synthergy. I've put all of the production techniques I've learned thus far into this song, but am getting mixed reviews. Some really like it while others think it needs LOTS of work. I could use any advice you have including any advice on the following:
1. How is the production?
2. Do you like the way the track sounds overall? Do you like the sounds I've picked and/or do they work well together?
3. Compositionally, how does the song rate?
4. What genre do you think this fits with?
THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR ADVICE. Let me know what song you would like me to review of yours!
e
Message 2/17 02-Oct-04 @ 12:32 AM Edit: 02-Oct-04 | 12:33 AM - RE: seeking song critique
Id agree it needs alot of work to be honest (not being a bastard but trying to help!)
Theres some cool elements, but its really lacking in alot of areas!
percussion work needs alot done to it, and id say change the bassline for starters
try gelling the sounds in together a litle bit more, just now theres some good ideas but they all stand out/fight against each other, careful use of reverb and delay can help, but you may want to go back again and go for different sounds mebbe? It sounds like its trying to be trance, but without the trancey type sounds
Id say currently, id class this in the cheesy eurodance genre
blu
Theres some cool elements, but its really lacking in alot of areas!
percussion work needs alot done to it, and id say change the bassline for starters
try gelling the sounds in together a litle bit more, just now theres some good ideas but they all stand out/fight against each other, careful use of reverb and delay can help, but you may want to go back again and go for different sounds mebbe? It sounds like its trying to be trance, but without the trancey type sounds
Id say currently, id class this in the cheesy eurodance genre
blu
Message 3/17 02-Oct-04 @ 06:49 AM - RE: seeking song critique
okay... its been a long week for me and I'm gonna critique...
It's a little cheesy 93.1 party dance music from '88. In my ears, I dont like the
sounds or chosen sounds. But I get what your trying to accomplish. Keep going
man! It'll work.
I got a tip: Try not to sound like everyone else. If ya do... pick a sound and go with
it... your all over the place with this one. Keep the vibe strong in only one area.
take care.
It's a little cheesy 93.1 party dance music from '88. In my ears, I dont like the
sounds or chosen sounds. But I get what your trying to accomplish. Keep going
man! It'll work.
I got a tip: Try not to sound like everyone else. If ya do... pick a sound and go with
it... your all over the place with this one. Keep the vibe strong in only one area.
take care.
Message 4/17 02-Oct-04 @ 07:09 AM - RE: seeking song critique
oh, dont take my comments to personal... it's just an opinion. others have different
ears :-)
ears :-)
Message 5/17 02-Oct-04 @ 04:25 PM Edit: 02-Oct-04 | 04:44 PM - RE: seeking song critique
Thank you guys for taking your time to review this track for me! This was exactly the help I was looking for. The comments you've left have been consistent with other comments I have received on my tunes. Looks like I still have a lot of work to do 
. I like a challenge though!
I'm going to repay the favor by listening to your tracks right now. If you have particular ones you'd like feedback on then let me know.
If anyone else has some comments to share, then I'll be happy to share mine on your trax.
e
. I like a challenge though!I'm going to repay the favor by listening to your tracks right now. If you have particular ones you'd like feedback on then let me know.
If anyone else has some comments to share, then I'll be happy to share mine on your trax.
e
Message 6/17 02-Oct-04 @ 04:46 PM - RE: seeking song critique
BLU
Thanx so much for taking your time out to review my track. I did more thanking on the forum post :-)
It was funny. I was reading your review and unknowingly downloading a track by SignalRunners - Andrew. I looked up at your info, and, of course, it said "SignalRunners"! Pretty funny, eh? I was downloading his track "Reform." It's a good track. Not quite as good as the recluse track I'm currently listening to, though! Holy crap you've got some great stuff here. I can see why you guys are signed trance artists.
After listening to recluse, I can see what you mean about making sounds fit. I have a love for synths sounds and variety. I love plugging as many different sounds into a track as possible. I guess this isn't always a good idea :-) In recluse, all of the sounds really fit together. They complimented each other so well. It was sweet.
I also noticed how consistent the melody was throughout the track. You had the same background rhythms and melodies playing almost the entire track and just kept adding synth anthems on top. The main synth lines, by the way, were fantastic.
Production quality was top notch. Kick was phat and thick. Synths were well eq'd. They sparkled real nice :-) I can see what you mean when you say my percussion needs some work. I will keep that in mind for my next track and when I redo Synthergy.
Overall, I really liked recluse. It showed me what you were talking about in your review. I'm going to take a listen to the rest of your tunes this week. See what I can learn ;-) Thanks again for your honest feedback!
e
Thanx so much for taking your time out to review my track. I did more thanking on the forum post :-)
It was funny. I was reading your review and unknowingly downloading a track by SignalRunners - Andrew. I looked up at your info, and, of course, it said "SignalRunners"! Pretty funny, eh? I was downloading his track "Reform." It's a good track. Not quite as good as the recluse track I'm currently listening to, though! Holy crap you've got some great stuff here. I can see why you guys are signed trance artists.
After listening to recluse, I can see what you mean about making sounds fit. I have a love for synths sounds and variety. I love plugging as many different sounds into a track as possible. I guess this isn't always a good idea :-) In recluse, all of the sounds really fit together. They complimented each other so well. It was sweet.
I also noticed how consistent the melody was throughout the track. You had the same background rhythms and melodies playing almost the entire track and just kept adding synth anthems on top. The main synth lines, by the way, were fantastic.
Production quality was top notch. Kick was phat and thick. Synths were well eq'd. They sparkled real nice :-) I can see what you mean when you say my percussion needs some work. I will keep that in mind for my next track and when I redo Synthergy.
Overall, I really liked recluse. It showed me what you were talking about in your review. I'm going to take a listen to the rest of your tunes this week. See what I can learn ;-) Thanks again for your honest feedback!
e
Message 7/17 02-Oct-04 @ 05:04 PM - RE: seeking song critique
hey man, cool glad you liked some of the stuff u d'led ( the stuff on mine and andrews profiles here is either really old, or just rough sketeches of tracks, so i wouldnt take to much time downloading much of them 
)
Glad you took the critism well, sometimes people get all defensive when someone tells them an opinion that doesnt match up to there thoughts- just keep trying diffrent things and youll get there in the end man
blu
)Glad you took the critism well, sometimes people get all defensive when someone tells them an opinion that doesnt match up to there thoughts- just keep trying diffrent things and youll get there in the end man
blu
Message 8/17 02-Oct-04 @ 05:05 PM Edit: 02-Oct-04 | 05:07 PM - RE: seeking song critique
I'm gonna take all that advice, BLU. Hey, man, I wanna get better at this stuff. You can't have an ego when you're learning. I'm listening to your other tracks right now :-).
e
e
Message 9/17 02-Oct-04 @ 05:08 PM - RE: seeking song critique
URBICIDE
Really appreciate the honest feedback here, m8. I don't take this kind of stuff personally at all! If we cannot take criticism, then we'll never grow as artists.
Again, your review of my sonic selection was consistent with BLU and some others who reviewed this track. This was kind of an historical track for me. I actually wrote all the parts about...umm....I guess it's been about 5 or 6 years ago! I put this mix together actually trying to come across as more consistent because some of my other trax were reviewed as being too "all over the place." Looks like this one didn't quite do it either :-). That's okay, though, I'm gonna keep trying. I'll probably always write stuff that sounds a little all over the place, though. Like you said, we don't all want to sound like everyone else!
I thought, "Come On'," was a very powerful track. The guitar sounds, big bass climb, and the well-produced, jungle percussion contributed to this end. I liked the overall arrangement of the track as well. Like SignalRunners, "Recluse," this one had very consistent elements throughout the track. It really seemed what you guys do is make one main section and then put short breakdowns spaced throughout the track to keep it varied. My composing style is definitely different than this. I kind of look at the song as a progession through different motifs. I think I will try to write both ways from now on, though. Just so I can get some stuff out there that is more format-friendly :-)
Love how in the intro the squeelly sound is in the right can and the saw wave stabs are in the left. That was a really cool effect. I didn't like these two sounds the first time through, but they really grew on me the more I listened to it!
Thought the percussion production was top notch in this track. Went well with the funky bassline. Definitely had a hard house/breaks feel to me at times. Was this what you're going for?
Once again thanks for your comments, and thanks for the upload too. Let me know when you put new trax up! Both of ya!
e
Really appreciate the honest feedback here, m8. I don't take this kind of stuff personally at all! If we cannot take criticism, then we'll never grow as artists.
Again, your review of my sonic selection was consistent with BLU and some others who reviewed this track. This was kind of an historical track for me. I actually wrote all the parts about...umm....I guess it's been about 5 or 6 years ago! I put this mix together actually trying to come across as more consistent because some of my other trax were reviewed as being too "all over the place." Looks like this one didn't quite do it either :-). That's okay, though, I'm gonna keep trying. I'll probably always write stuff that sounds a little all over the place, though. Like you said, we don't all want to sound like everyone else!
I thought, "Come On'," was a very powerful track. The guitar sounds, big bass climb, and the well-produced, jungle percussion contributed to this end. I liked the overall arrangement of the track as well. Like SignalRunners, "Recluse," this one had very consistent elements throughout the track. It really seemed what you guys do is make one main section and then put short breakdowns spaced throughout the track to keep it varied. My composing style is definitely different than this. I kind of look at the song as a progession through different motifs. I think I will try to write both ways from now on, though. Just so I can get some stuff out there that is more format-friendly :-)
Love how in the intro the squeelly sound is in the right can and the saw wave stabs are in the left. That was a really cool effect. I didn't like these two sounds the first time through, but they really grew on me the more I listened to it!
Thought the percussion production was top notch in this track. Went well with the funky bassline. Definitely had a hard house/breaks feel to me at times. Was this what you're going for?
Once again thanks for your comments, and thanks for the upload too. Let me know when you put new trax up! Both of ya!
e
Message 10/17 03-Oct-04 @ 11:39 PM - RE: seeking song critique
hola i have to tell you what i think i enjoyed your tracks a lot but i alwasy think trance music is something bizarre or chezzy but at the same time i love it. this year i started to think that trance will be the next big thing if someone make with trance what neptunes or timbaland did with R&b
cheers i'm not kiddin , maybe i'm crazy but it's just a feeling
cheers i'm not kiddin , maybe i'm crazy but it's just a feeling
Message 11/17 04-Oct-04 @ 02:11 AM - RE: seeking song critique
BSK
Thanks so much for the comments! I'm glad you liked my tunes. They were a lot of fun to write. I'm downloading your track as we speak and will post a review of it soon!
e
Thanks so much for the comments! I'm glad you liked my tunes. They were a lot of fun to write
. I'm downloading your track as we speak and will post a review of it soon!e
Message 12/17 04-Oct-04 @ 02:53 AM - RE: seeking song critique
BSK
Here's your promised review of the way you make me feel:
I really enjoyed this track! The song structure had lots of variety, which I thought kept it very interesting. The vocal samples were very well produced from the vocoding to the eq'ing. Main synth sounds were cool. I did think it could use some work in a few areas.
First, the kick. It sounded a little weak on my end. I thought it could be brought up in the mix with some mid and low range eq boost. The mid will help give it a little punchiness and the low end will give it the dancefloor boom. When I do kick eq, I increase the gain in the mid range and then sweep the mid range frequency knob through the spectrum until I find the "punchy" frequency. I do the same fo the low range.
Secondly, the saw wave synth in the intro could use some more reverb. Maybe even a touch of cross delay on the back end too would fill the track out a bit more.
The vocal sample that starts at 2:26 seemed a little off the beat to me. May want to have another listen to this part. It may be that the whole sample just needs backed up a bit in your playlist.
Now to the vocal sample at 3:47. I liked this sample a lot, but I would bring this down in volume level, and take out some of the low range. It kind of towered over everything. The production on it was awesome it was just a little too much in my face.
Overall, this was real fun track to listen to. Please let me know when you post other stuff!
e
Here's your promised review of the way you make me feel:
I really enjoyed this track! The song structure had lots of variety, which I thought kept it very interesting. The vocal samples were very well produced from the vocoding to the eq'ing. Main synth sounds were cool. I did think it could use some work in a few areas.
First, the kick. It sounded a little weak on my end. I thought it could be brought up in the mix with some mid and low range eq boost. The mid will help give it a little punchiness and the low end will give it the dancefloor boom. When I do kick eq, I increase the gain in the mid range and then sweep the mid range frequency knob through the spectrum until I find the "punchy" frequency. I do the same fo the low range.
Secondly, the saw wave synth in the intro could use some more reverb. Maybe even a touch of cross delay on the back end too would fill the track out a bit more.
The vocal sample that starts at 2:26 seemed a little off the beat to me. May want to have another listen to this part. It may be that the whole sample just needs backed up a bit in your playlist.
Now to the vocal sample at 3:47. I liked this sample a lot, but I would bring this down in volume level, and take out some of the low range. It kind of towered over everything. The production on it was awesome it was just a little too much in my face.
Overall, this was real fun track to listen to. Please let me know when you post other stuff!
e
Message 13/17 06-Oct-04 @ 02:34 PM - RE: seeking song critique
hi mate, i really apreciatte what you say. yesterday i've heard my trax in a club system for the first time and what you know about kick is tottaly true. Are you dj?
where are you from?
how can i download some e-effect tracks, i tell you, i'm involved in a fm radio at my town and i'm sure people here would like your music a lot.
if you wish to take a look i have upload 2 tracks at 7161 , posted like " 2 dance pop trax from argentina" or directly to www.soundclick.com/bands/6/playtoy.htm
please let me know what you think , you got a good ear to detect the main things
horacio
where are you from?
how can i download some e-effect tracks, i tell you, i'm involved in a fm radio at my town and i'm sure people here would like your music a lot.
if you wish to take a look i have upload 2 tracks at 7161 , posted like " 2 dance pop trax from argentina" or directly to www.soundclick.com/bands/6/playtoy.htm
please let me know what you think , you got a good ear to detect the main things
horacio
Message 14/17 06-Oct-04 @ 02:46 PM - RE: seeking song critique
hey, me again i was reading the others critics and mine and i really believe that this "cheezy thing" in trance music is the key for something.
i insist synths sounds in timbo or nepts productions are ovbiuos (not the beat) but they made from a dead genre like r&b the most creative music of this last times
Por fin!!!! i can upload a new track at thi site, i'll make a post soon.
Horacio
i insist synths sounds in timbo or nepts productions are ovbiuos (not the beat) but they made from a dead genre like r&b the most creative music of this last times
Por fin!!!! i can upload a new track at thi site, i'll make a post soon.
Horacio
Message 15/17 07-Oct-04 @ 12:43 AM - RE: seeking song critique
I'm totally seeing what you're getting at with the cheesy synth thing. You're talking about staple sounds: sounds that you immediately associate with an aritst when you hear them. To my ear, the sounds in Synthergy didn't seem cheesy, but to some they do. It's all a matter of preference, and I agree that some listeners are going to like cheesy synths! I guess I'm one of them .
I will download your soundclick trax ASAP and post a review. Until then...
e
.I will download your soundclick trax ASAP and post a review. Until then...
e
Message 16/17 08-Oct-04 @ 11:10 PM - RE: seeking song critique
Togo Peffin
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Hmmm. Song critique, eh? Your song certainly follows the protocol of 'boom boom boom' music: a repetitive beat accompanied by an occasionally changing chord sequence on an irritating synth, which in turn is accompanied by the pain-inducing high-pitch whines of an electronic, er, thing. A couple of minutes in, we are blessed by a temporary break from the beat, that being replaced by some echoing hi-hats, while the basic melody is varied moderately, and after a short while of that, we get some type of synthetic pseudo-drum-roll to re-introduce the beat. The song plays. The song ends.
Togo has questions:
Why do you need to ask reviewers to talk about 'how the song rates compositionally' when the song quite clearly follows the exact pattern that is present in almost all songs in this genre? (Togo supposes that he would call it dance. Agree?)
Why do you feel the need to keep yourself in this musical uniform when you could easily deviate from some of these dance music norms and create something that sounds at least slightly different from a million other songs?
You're perfectly welcome to review Togo's music, but he won't pay much attention to whatever you say.
Togo
Togo has questions:
Why do you need to ask reviewers to talk about 'how the song rates compositionally' when the song quite clearly follows the exact pattern that is present in almost all songs in this genre? (Togo supposes that he would call it dance. Agree?)
Why do you feel the need to keep yourself in this musical uniform when you could easily deviate from some of these dance music norms and create something that sounds at least slightly different from a million other songs?
You're perfectly welcome to review Togo's music, but he won't pay much attention to whatever you say.
Togo
Message 17/17 09-Oct-04 @ 12:43 AM - RE: seeking song critique
hey e-effect , you 've got this togo gift, ah..
hey togo , i have a theory becuz you are in the top of charts
but if i open my mouth it could destroy you, and i like you
hey togo , i have a theory becuz you are in the top of charts
but if i open my mouth it could destroy you, and i like you
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