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Original Message 1/27             15-Dec-04  @  02:42 PM   -   Milan.B vs Darkstate

milan

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aaah... at last its here. first joint effort by me and mr. darkstate- a vocal jazzy affair called Vistas, check it  

http://www.7161.com/track.cfm?track__dt_track_id=6007&user=1358&carrywith=&music_group=1



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Message 2/27             15-Dec-04  @  08:52 PM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

Bluescreen

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Cool.

Nice voice, great e-piano and synth sounds. Must admit that I don't like the drums at all. For my opinion the rest of the arrangement cries after an acoustic drumset ;)

Stefan



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Message 3/27             16-Dec-04  @  12:43 AM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

milan

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most of the drums were acoustic... once upon a time that is ;)



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Message 4/27             16-Dec-04  @  12:22 PM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

Bluescreen

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Ah, ok. I get used to the drums after listening several times.
Good song in any case.



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Message 5/27             16-Dec-04  @  12:23 PM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

k

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yeah nice, very pro sounding - great vocals

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 6/27             16-Dec-04  @  01:55 PM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

welder (aka. ragnarok)

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Pro:

- Damn fine vocals
- Clean, still very atmospheric sound
- Love that railway-drumsound

Con:

- nothing really, a pleasure to listen to: an easy downtempo song speed up to dnb tempo. Yummy.



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Message 7/27             16-Dec-04  @  07:38 PM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

milan

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cheers for liking guys... bigup ya self!



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Message 8/27             16-Dec-04  @  07:44 PM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

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wow...has a real Big Bud or a Ltj feel to it..

It's like LTJ meets sade...fucking ill...keep up the good work...love that
piano!

kapok



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Message 9/27             16-Dec-04  @  07:51 PM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

milan

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lol... i think thats the biggest compliment i've ever gotten :D

cheers a lot kapok!



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Message 10/27             16-Dec-04  @  08:08 PM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

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Very well done.... worth the wait  

The vocals sit perfectly in the mix, but I wish she'd put a little more emotion into her delivery... as is it's a bit flat, but not much you can do about that.

Where's the bass? Right now it's a D& track... needs the low rumbly to cut through.

Nice programming on the drums. I would crush them more, make em a bit dirtier and more upfront.... they deserve to be more in focus.

Otherwise fine work. Can't wait till next year's



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Message 11/27             17-Dec-04  @  09:54 AM     Edit: 23-Dec-04  |  11:46 AM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

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Thanks for all the props fellas... Krystyna, the singer, is still pretty new to the game but she's getting there and as we throw more juice at her, the experience will come!

Dunno why you're not getting any "B" in the dnb though Psy..   I haven't heard the version posted here so I dunno how much made it through the encode that Milan put up.. For shits'n'giggles though, I'll boost a little more bottom end (just a smidge) in the re-master anyways.. gotta be careful though, any more and I know it'll be too hot (coz that's how it was when I first sent it back to Milan..)

T'other than that.. we're happy with it.. there's *ALWAYS* more one could tweak.. but then we'd never get anything finished (I made the poor bloke wait long enough as it was)



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Message 12/27             17-Dec-04  @  11:07 AM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

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Noice...

D&B isn't on my list of favourites, but this is really nice, laid back beats, good vox, but like I said in chat needs some bass innit

G



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Message 13/27             17-Dec-04  @  11:10 AM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

dARKSTATe

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*Scurries back to mastering suite*

Ok ok, I'll fold some more bass back in...



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Message 14/27             17-Dec-04  @  01:21 PM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

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BTW, dARKSTATe may I ask what kind of gear did you use for mastering?



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Message 15/27             17-Dec-04  @  02:12 PM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

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yeah, bass is a bit on the light side, but since you're already peaking... besides not every track commands bowel movement inducing bass. nice all around



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Message 16/27             17-Dec-04  @  07:31 PM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

milan

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cheers for comments guys  



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Message 17/27             18-Dec-04  @  06:24 AM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

Garuna

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Very good.



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Message 18/27             18-Dec-04  @  06:27 AM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

Garuna

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Is it just me or is the vox panned left? If not, please ignore this post.



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Message 19/27             18-Dec-04  @  08:20 AM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

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Hi!

Its a really good track!, good atmosphere, good (clear) vocals, good rythms, wicked mix, I really like it!

grats!,
woland



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Message 20/27             18-Dec-04  @  09:39 PM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

The Moujik

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Nice work fellas... been listening to this a lot; IMHO one of the best DT tracks in my 5+ years of lurking/posting.

Top drawer!



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Message 21/27             19-Dec-04  @  12:45 AM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

milan

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oh come on!

and thanks  



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Message 22/27             20-Dec-04  @  08:42 PM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

Maarten

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Absolutely liking it! She has a great voice... go milan vs darkstate  



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Message 23/27             21-Dec-04  @  01:33 PM     Edit: 21-Dec-04  |  01:46 PM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

dARKSTATe

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Seriously good vibes, thanks for all the support guys.. I have managed to boost that bass without running over hot now.. should hopefully get Milan a new version sometime this week if he wants to re-post the track..

Welder, I run my two-track bounce through IK Multimedia's T-Racks.. monitoring on a set of old JAMO CL120s, burn down to 44.1KHz CD then test on a variety of other systems, trust my ears (mostly), write notes, go back to the mix if necessary and then re-tweak the master, reburn to CD.. rince and repeat..

I'm sure there's a science to it in there somewhere but...



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Message 24/27             23-Dec-04  @  01:23 PM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

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Yeah love it. Hardstepping. Kinda wanted it to take off into a frenzy of breakbeats about mid way through but I guess fast is the way I like my drum n bass...  

As always man excellent stuff.



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Message 25/27             23-Dec-04  @  02:08 PM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

Welder

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AHHA, T-racks, I knew it!

(don't believe a word I'm saying :-)

Thanks for the info anyway, I use a similar setup, and yes, it is science, its called "the iterative approach".



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Message 26/27             31-Dec-04  @  09:21 PM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

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Me like mucho...

nice one guys.. thx.. will be playing it to friends..

;)



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Message 27/27             02-Jan-05  @  04:12 PM   -   RE: Milan.B vs Darkstate

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i like the drums a lot.
i like the girl a lot.
i like the tune a lot...and i really like the way the different sounds get pulled in over time (especially that last synth-sound.....very nice).
my only suggestion would be to lay off on the reverb in a couple places...and let the girl pop-up towards the front for a stretch...
reverse that at some point and let the drums dry-out and stick nicely in your face.
this one'll be worth mixing and remixing over time.
nice work.



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